BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 Ranking update - Usyk vs Witherspoon

[dagilechia]

Current ranking:

1. Tyson Fury - 29(20) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - next fight: b]23.11.2019[/b] vs Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

3. Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - (#4)

4. Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - (#3)

5. Dillian Whyte - 26(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Alexander Povetkin - 35(24) 2(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

7. Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - next fight: b]23.11.2019[/b] vs Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - (#2)

8. Kubrat Pulev - 27(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

9. Joseph Parker - 26(20) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Óscar Rivas - 26(18) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Adam Kownacki - 20(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Dereck Chisora - 31(22) 9(3) 0 - next fight: 26.10.2019 vs David Price - 25(20) 6(6) 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #21)

13. Filip Hrgović - 9(7) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Michael Hunter - 18(12) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

15. Agit Kabayel - 19(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

Question: How are the rankings affected by Oleksandr Usyk's RTD 7 win over Chazz Witherspoon?

My vote: Usyk to #10

[morm]

usyk to 14

[joshj909]

I'm torn between leaving him out altogether as he has no top wins at HW or place him at 14 as he beat Hunter at CW.

I'll go with Usyk in at 14.

[Onetimeonly]

Usyk in at 6.

[Paci]

Im going with in at 10th.

[tiny_acres]

Usyk in at 5th

[Lennox]

Usyk to 6.

[gregregegg]

Usyk to 6

[greg]

Usyk to #10, should prove in the ring to be better than that..

[dagilechia]

I think of changing my vote to Usyk to #8 but beating Witherspoon means nothing. Had he fought Takam, I'd vote OU to #5

[ValMar]

Usyk will be among the top 3 HWs by the end of 2020. Right now, I think he shouldn't be on this list.

[margaret thatcher]

He won 117-110 vs a guy already on the list, and beat a bunch of guys at cruiser who would easily be top 25 minimum at HW. It's not like he's done absolutely nothing relevant to HW

I'll say 7 for now but he's probably better than that

[margaret thatcher]

Usyk will be among the top 3 HWs by the end of 2020. Right now, I think he shouldn't be on this list.

Why not, he handily beat a guy already on the list, as if that suddenly means nothing just because they cut weight for that fight

The top cruisers would do fine at HW too. Breidis already brutally knocked out Charr better than any HW did for example, and we saw USS Cunningham after looking past it at cruiser have a solid HW run, Huck beat Pov on many cards, etc. IMO beating top tier cruisers does have some cred for HW rankings

[Pukka Cheese]

Usyk in at 6th.

Everyone below moves down one, Kabayel out.

[Heretic]

My vote Usyk in at #10

I will vote him higher when he gets more meaningful scalp in HW.

[KiwiRider]

Usyk in at 6th.

Everyone below moves down one, Kabayel out.

X2
His win against Hunter should also be considered, it was conclusive.
At #6 I don't see anyone below him giving him any real problems, except maybe Parker, and even then I feel he could eek out a points win.

[ewenhay]

No change.

I know everyone is in a hurry to crown Usyk but if anyone else outside the top 15 beat the version of Witherspoon Usyk fought then we wouldn't even be voting.

[margaret thatcher]

No change.

I know everyone is in a hurry to crown Usyk but if anyone else outside the top 15 beat the version of Witherspoon Usyk fought then we wouldn't even be voting.

If they were an undisputed cruiser champ and already dominated a guy on the list I bet you we would. Look at all the ranked guys who haven't beat let alone dominated another ranked guy. And some of his cruiser opponents have done stuff at HW, like Breidis KTFOing Charr.

And he's clearly not being crowned here yet, no one put him at 1 or anything (though I know for some people it's great to have a hyped fighter to root against). He easily has a strong case to be rated on this list though.

I think not rating him as top 15 is pretty weak TBH

[Lennox]

No change.

I know everyone is in a hurry to crown Usyk but if anyone else outside the top 15 beat the version of Witherspoon Usyk fought then we wouldn't even be voting.

He has already beaten the number 14? Do you want to re-consider?

[ewenhay]

No change.

I know everyone is in a hurry to crown Usyk but if anyone else outside the top 15 beat the version of Witherspoon Usyk fought then we wouldn't even be voting.

He has already beaten the number 14? Do you want to re-consider?

I take your point but no, that was at cruiser

[margaret thatcher]

Doesn't count because they didn't cut a few pounds? Seems weak...

[oogiebe]

No change. I'll wait for him to fight a good HW. I believe he can beat most of the top 15, but what I believe and what he's done don't warrant a ranking just yet.

[margaret thatcher]

He already beat a ranked guy.

I mean that's a hell of a lot more than someone like Hrgovic has done.

[margaret thatcher]

THe people acting like it doesn't count because it was at cruiser care way too much about the day before scale....actually look at the fighters. It's the same guys, and pretty much the same size as they are now, just with some weight sweated off the day before. In the ring it was probably like 210 vs 210 at least

And we know a guy like Briedis even at CW size is far better than someone like Charr. The top cruisers are no joke even vs HWs

[oogiebe]

THe people acting like it doesn't count because it was at cruiser care way too much about the day before scale....actually look at the fighters. It's the same guys, and pretty much the same size as they are now, just with some weight sweated off the day before. In the ring it was probably like 210 vs 210 at least

And we know a guy like Briedis even at CW size is far better than someone like Charr. The top cruisers are no joke even vs HWs

I get your point but I don't agree.