Usyk Enters the BoxRec HW rankings

[oogiebe]

With his conversion of points from CW and his win over Chazz, Usyk enters the rankings at 4, above Fury.

I get the how the points system works, but in my opinion, he should be at 5.

[KiwiRider]

Apart from Fury, I had a look at who (#15) is below him and I think he could beat those guys. Some rather badly. I also think he would quickly have the measure of Andy Blobby and maybe not KO him, but get a decision.
I agree that Fury- with Wlad and the bronze blabber on his record, should be above Usyk.

[margaret thatcher]

With his conversion of points from CW and his win over Chazz, Usyk enters the rankings at 4, above Fury.

I get the how the points system works, but in my opinion, he should be at 5.

Well I was browsing the threads and saw this and gotta bring it up quickly again---but you say he should be at 5 but then don't want him top 15 in our rankings?

[oogiebe]

With his conversion of points from CW and his win over Chazz, Usyk enters the rankings at 4, above Fury.

I get the how the points system works, but in my opinion, he should be at 5.

Well I was browsing the threads and saw this and gotta bring it up quickly again---but you say he should be at 5 but then don't want him top 15 in our rankings?

as he relates to Fury and the Boxrec point system. Let it go bro! LOL!

[Enlightened-One]

Did anybody realise that Chris Eubank Jr. is rated above Oleksandr Usyk, Naoya Inoue, Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua in BoxRec’s pound-for-pound rankings?

That’s how deeply-flawed BoxRec’s ratings system is.

I could provide quite a few problematic and weird examples to support my stance.

[oogiebe]

Did anybody realise that Chris Eubank Jr. is rated above Oleksandr Usyk, Naoya Inoue, Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua in BoxRec’s pound-for-pound rankings?

That’s how deeply-flawed BoxRec’s ratings system is.

I could provide quite a few problematic and weird examples to support my stance.

P4P on BoxRec hasn't been very good.

[tiny_acres]

With his conversion of points from CW and his win over Chazz, Usyk enters the rankings at 4, above Fury.

I get the how the points system works, but in my opinion, he should be at 5.

Well I was browsing the threads and saw this and gotta bring it up quickly again---but you say he should be at 5 but then don't want him top 15 in our rankings?

This actually made me laugh

[Boxtune]

Boxrec HW ranking is f$@king BULLSHIT. why the fornicate whyte , Miller ( DRUG CHEATS) and USYK in top 10 ?!!!

[oogiebe]

Well I was browsing the threads and saw this and gotta bring it up quickly again---but you say he should be at 5 but then don't want him top 15 in our rankings?

This actually made me laugh

Different context here mates.

[Enlightened-One]

Boxrec HW ranking is f$@king BULLSHIT. why the fornicate whyte , Miller ( DRUG CHEATS)

To be fair, neither Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller have been officially charged with consuming PED’s.

[Boxtune]

Boxrec HW ranking is f$@king BULLSHIT. why the fornicate whyte , Miller ( DRUG CHEATS)

To be fair, neither Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller have been officially charged with consuming PED’s.

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

[Enlightened-One]

To be fair, neither Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller have been officially charged with consuming PED’s.

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

I don’t know why you’re so offended about this issue, as well as my feedback.

Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller haven’t received any punishment (yet) for consuming PED’s. At this point in time, they’re both free to resume their careers and engage in bouts. It's not as if I'm personally to blame for this situation.

BoxRec’s ratings are based on statistics and real-world facts, such as fighters not being banned and engaging in bouts. Emotions and opinions aren’t within the scope of their points calculations. Perhaps I'm an idiot for appreciating this fact.

[oogiebe]

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

I don’t know why you’re so offended about this issue, as well as my feedback.

Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller haven’t received any punishment (yet) for consuming PED’s. At this point in time, they’re both free to resume their careers and engage in bouts. It's not as if I'm personally to blame for this situation.

BoxRec’s ratings are based on statistics and real-world facts, such as fighters not being banned and engaging in bouts. Emotions and opinions aren’t within the scope of their points calculations. Perhaps I'm an idiot for appreciating this fact.

EO is right. Nothing official has been put down on either Miller or Whyte. BoxRec will take the appropriate steps if/when something official occurs.

[gilgamesh]

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

I don’t know why you’re so offended about this issue, as well as my feedback.

Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller haven’t received any punishment (yet) for consuming PED’s. At this point in time, they’re both free to resume their careers and engage in bouts. It's not as if I'm personally to blame for this situation.

BoxRec’s ratings are based on statistics and real-world facts, such as fighters not being banned and engaging in bouts. Emotions and opinions aren’t within the scope of their points calculations. Perhaps I'm an idiot for appreciating this fact.

People have a hard time with facts these days

[tiny_acres]

I don’t know why you’re so offended about this issue, as well as my feedback.

Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller haven’t received any punishment (yet) for consuming PED’s. At this point in time, they’re both free to resume their careers and engage in bouts. It's not as if I'm personally to blame for this situation.

BoxRec’s ratings are based on statistics and real-world facts, such as fighters not being banned and engaging in bouts. Emotions and opinions aren’t within the scope of their points calculations. Perhaps I'm an idiot for appreciating this fact.

EO is right. Nothing official has been put down on either Miller or Whyte. BoxRec will take the appropriate steps if/when something official occurs.

Out of curiosity what is boxrec's policy on rating suspended fighters?

[oogiebe]

EO is right. Nothing official has been put down on either Miller or Whyte. BoxRec will take the appropriate steps if/when something official occurs.

Out of curiosity what is boxrec's policy on rating suspended fighters?

Good question for John.

[tiny_acres]

Out of curiosity what is boxrec's policy on rating suspended fighters?

Good question for John.

Like I said kind of curious. I don't recall Canelo being removed when he served his joke of a suspension

[oogiebe]

Good question for John.

Like I said kind of curious. I don't recall Canelo being removed when he served his joke of a suspension

you asked hte question. Go get the answer! (I'd like to know too)

[danconnollyeire]

To be fair, neither Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller have been officially charged with consuming PED’s.

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

Doesn’t mean nothing? So it means something??

[oogiebe]

Cut the crap ... not being officialy charged doesn't mean nothing, that's what you idiot and boxing has become .

Doesn’t mean nothing? So it means something??

Well played!

[margaret thatcher]

I don’t know why you’re so offended about this issue, as well as my feedback.

Dillian Whyte nor Jarrell Miller haven’t received any punishment (yet) for consuming PED’s. At this point in time, they’re both free to resume their careers and engage in bouts. It's not as if I'm personally to blame for this situation.

BoxRec’s ratings are based on statistics and real-world facts, such as fighters not being banned and engaging in bouts. Emotions and opinions aren’t within the scope of their points calculations. Perhaps I'm an idiot for appreciating this fact.

EO is right. Nothing official has been put down on either Miller or Whyte. BoxRec will take the appropriate steps if/when something official occurs.

Keep in mind fighters get official medical/precautionary suspensions all the time after fights, and BoxRec doesn't remove these fighters from the rankings. BoxRec seems to be that you're out either at 12 months of inactivity or when you die/announce your retirement, and that's pretty much it.

[oogiebe]

EO is right. Nothing official has been put down on either Miller or Whyte. BoxRec will take the appropriate steps if/when something official occurs.

Keep in mind fighters get official medical/precautionary suspensions all the time after fights, and BoxRec doesn't remove these fighters from the rankings.

After further thought, I imagine BoxRec only removes fighters for length of inactivity.

[margaret thatcher]

Ya, that's pretty much the one. I notice that if a fighter publically announces their retirement or dies of course they will do it too, but nothing for any suspensions.

[danconnollyeire]

Keep in mind fighters get official medical/precautionary suspensions all the time after fights, and BoxRec doesn't remove these fighters from the rankings.

After further thought, I imagine BoxRec only removes fighters for length of inactivity.

A year is their rule

[pound per pound]

With his conversion of points from CW and his win over Chazz, Usyk enters the rankings at 4, above Fury.

I get the how the points system works, but in my opinion, he should be at 5.

The points system at Box Rec needs adjustment. It doesn't factor in moving up in weight classes. It should take away 250 points for each move up, ignoring all jr and super divisions.