i guess gvodzyk is finished now, to damn fragile, beterbiev beat the world class right out of him.
beterbiev is unbeatable and kovalev is weakminded and the epithome of vulneraility of the nutsack to punches (body).
He's better at distance control because you have seen him against trash oponents. Gvozdyk would be just as good at distance control against those same opponents, although quite frankly he wouldn't have to since he likes to throw combinations at mid range. Beterbiev can get inside and cut distance against anyone in the division. The only way to keep him honest is to have power that can put doubt in his gameplan. In my estimation Gvozdyk had the best one punch power out of any potential opponent that Beterbiev could have faced. Bivol can land quick and accurate punches for 8 rounds, but the inevitable train will ride him over. The only way I see Bivol winning is a close decision where he turns on the bike for all 12 and runs around. Gvozdyk was moving as well, but you can see Beterbiev always sensing the fatigue in the final 1 minute of each round and then concentrating his work in exactly that last minute each time for best effects. I don't see Bivol being able to have high movement for all 3 minutes for the whole fight.
I agree. All I said was that bivol would be his toughest imo. Would be a 50/50. I feel Bert can outboxed.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 00:55Bert showed he can also move and box and not just all about the power.
DrDuke wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 02:17 Beterbiev performed great. I was underrating Beter prior to this fight and I picked Gvozdyk to break Beter down and KO him. But everything happened vice versa. Beter fought smart. He was composed and economical, while he dictated the pace. Gvozdyk tried to box from the outside. It was actually an even fight. However, Beterbiev was wisely increasing his activity closer to endings of rounds, while he also was increasing pressure gradually in the process of the bout. Gvozdyk looked tired by the midpoint. Beterbiev used that. In the 9th round Beterbiev finally established the dominance. He masterfully provided diverse attacks, to head and to body. Gvodyk was broken down then. In the 10th Beter showed a great killer instinct and finished Gvozdyk.
Tough to say, p4p rankings never easy.
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I’d say he’s lurking outside. He holds 2 belts. Gvozdyk is his best win to date, and his best win was Superman, who was nowhere near top 10 P4P..
If Bivol needed 12 rounds against Jean Pacal, what do you think he's gonna do against Beterbiev? He'll never see the 12th round. I'm sure of it.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 11:31I’d say he’s lurking outside. He holds 2 belts. Gvozdyk is his best win to date, and his best win was Superman, who was nowhere near top 10 P4P..
If Bert can beat Bivol, I rank him between 7-10.
Plenty of boxers are who 12 round boxers and just tend to go the distance, always seem to do enough or nearly enough to win on points.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 12:40 Bivol is a scoring points fighter. Him going rounds is just his style IMO and he's won like at least 10 rounds every fight. A guy like Floyd would win on points sometimes vs C+ level guys and A level guys...but he kept winning. Obviously Bivol ain't Floyd but some guys are just like that where it's the same type of result across different levels of opposition. Bivol also doesn't press for the finish so it allows overmatched guys to take him rounds.
Yeah, with winning Bivol he can earn a place in the top 10.Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑19 Oct 2019, 11:31I’d say he’s lurking outside. He holds 2 belts. Gvozdyk is his best win to date, and his best win was Superman, who was nowhere near top 10 P4P..
If Bert can beat Bivol, I rank him between 7-10.