WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

IS CANELO ALVAREZ A LOCK FOR THE HALL OF FAME IF HE BEATS SERGEY KOVALEV?

AS A 4-WEIGHT WORLD CHAMP CANELO WOULD DEFINITELY BE A LOCK FOR THE HALL OF FAME
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CANELO HAS ALREADY EARNED A SPOT IN H.O.F. & THAT WOULD JUST BE ICING ON THE CAKE
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ALVAREZ NEEDS MORE THAN A WIN OVER KOVALEV TO GUARANTEE A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME
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DEPENDS ON HOW HE WINS. DISPUTED DECISION WON'T GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN H.O.F.
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WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by Best Coast »

If Canelo Alvarez beats Sergey Kovalev it would be his 4th world title in different weight classes (154, 160, 168, 175). Kovalev is possibly a future HOFer himself and some people might think Canelo is already a lock for the HOF whether he beats Kovalev or not.

There may even be a few who think Canelo hasnt done enough to make the HOF even with a victory over Kovalev, but they would probably be a very small minority.

Your thoughts?
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by Onetimeonly »

He's already there
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by geronimo »

Onetimeonly wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 04:39 He's already there
Definitely
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by tiny_acres »

Canelo is a 100% certain deadlock first ballot hall of famer.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by IKSRTFO »

He's already a HOF fighter. Now, this could put him in the convo as an ATG.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by greg »

..as a doper/cheat I don't think he belongs there unless the organisers want to devaluate their institution...
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by Impractical Poster »

Agree w everyone else. He's already there. And this is coming from one of his biggest critics.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

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He's already there and he'll be there, even if Kovalev KOs him in the 1st. The same is with Kovalev, by the way.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by margaret thatcher »

DrDuke wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 11:51 He's already there and he'll be there, even if Kovalev KOs him in the 1st. The same is with Kovalev, by the way.
Nope
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

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DrDuke wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 11:51 He's already there and he'll be there, even if Kovalev KOs him in the 1st. The same is with Kovalev, by the way.
Why? He's been a prolonged champion, he gathered three belts and defeated some quality opposition convincingly.
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Post by oogiebe »

DrDuke wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 11:51 He's already there and he'll be there, even if Kovalev KOs him in the 1st. The same is with Kovalev, by the way.
Canelo, yes. Kov, maybe, but he'd have to beat Alvarez IMHO.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by Onetimeonly »

Don't know about kovalev, he'd rate below Dawson all time. Chad will have no chance but should have one.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by hoagylt »

Onetimeonly wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 04:39 He's already there
Exactly!
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by tiny_acres »

IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 11:41 He's already a HOF fighter. Now, this could put him in the convo as an ATG.
I'm not ready to call him an all time great anytime soon
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by IKSRTFO »

tiny_acres wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:42
IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 11:41 He's already a HOF fighter. Now, this could put him in the convo as an ATG.
I'm not ready to call him an all time great anytime soon
Right now, his resume is levels above everyone today not named Manny Pacquiao
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by tiny_acres »

IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:43
tiny_acres wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:42

I'm not ready to call him an all time great anytime soon
Right now, his resume is levels above everyone today not named Manny Pacquiao
But that still doesn't make him an all time great.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by IKSRTFO »

tiny_acres wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:45
IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:43

Right now, his resume is levels above everyone today not named Manny Pacquiao
But that still doesn't make him an all time great.
Moving up two weightclasses and beating Kovalev would put him in the convo for me.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by tiny_acres »

IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:48
tiny_acres wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:45

But that still doesn't make him an all time great.
Moving up two weightclasses and beating Kovalev would put him in the convo for me.
For all the crap certain boxers on here have gotten for picking fighters at the end of their career or facing a week champion to pick up another belt.
We are quick to excuse Canelo
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by oogiebe »

tiny_acres wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:50
IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:48

Moving up two weightclasses and beating Kovalev would put him in the convo for me.
For all the crap certain boxers on here have gotten for picking fighters at the end of their career or facing a week champion to pick up another belt.
We are quick to excuse Canelo
Moving up divisions isn't like it was back in the days of Henry Armstrong. 4 pounds ain't nothing. Canelo fought at 168 already. 7 pounds more is two good shvts.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by IKSRTFO »

tiny_acres wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:50
IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:48

Moving up two weightclasses and beating Kovalev would put him in the convo for me.
For all the crap certain boxers on here have gotten for picking fighters at the end of their career or facing a week champion to pick up another belt.
We are quick to excuse Canelo
You say it like the guy is 42 or something. He's YOUNGER than the Mayweather Canelo fought.

Kovalev is not what he was marketed to be but he's still much much bigger and still has pretty good boxing ability and power.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by Best Coast »

IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:54 You say it like the guy is 42 or something. He's YOUNGER than the Mayweather Canelo fought.

Kovalev is not what he was marketed to be but he's still much much bigger and still has pretty good boxing ability and power.
Plus Kovalev has one of the best trainers in the sport: Buddy McGirt. Sergey's boxing skills have improved much under McGirt.
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Post by JCS »

Already a HOF lock.. winning this makes him a legend.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by tiny_acres »

IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:54
tiny_acres wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:50

For all the crap certain boxers on here have gotten for picking fighters at the end of their career or facing a week champion to pick up another belt.
We are quick to excuse Canelo
You say it like the guy is 42 or something. He's YOUNGER than the Mayweather Canelo fought.

Kovalev is not what he was marketed to be but he's still much much bigger and still has pretty good boxing ability and power.
Kovalev is 36 which happens to be the same age Floyd was when he beat Canelo.
But that has zero to do with the fact that K9valev is a shell of his former self.
This is a cherry pick to get another belt
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by IKSRTFO »

Best Coast wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 20:11
IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:54 You say it like the guy is 42 or something. He's YOUNGER than the Mayweather Canelo fought.

Kovalev is not what he was marketed to be but he's still much much bigger and still has pretty good boxing ability and power.
Plus Kovalev has one of the best trainers in the sport: Buddy McGirt. Sergey's boxing skills have improved much under McGirt.
McGirt ensures the "I'm stopping the fight" talk will happen once he starts to take a little punishment.
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Re: WILL A CANELO WIN OVER KOVALEV GUARANTEE HIM A SPOT IN HALL OF FAME?

Post by IKSRTFO »

tiny_acres wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 20:26
IKSRTFO wrote: 31 Oct 2019, 19:54

You say it like the guy is 42 or something. He's YOUNGER than the Mayweather Canelo fought.

Kovalev is not what he was marketed to be but he's still much much bigger and still has pretty good boxing ability and power.
Kovalev is 36 which happens to be the same age Floyd was when he beat Canelo.
But that has zero to do with the fact that K9valev is a shell of his former self.
This is a cherry pick to get another belt
So was picking a smaller 36 year old Floyd a cherry pick?
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