BoxRec Forum HW TOP 15 update - Chisora vs Price

[cormack]

chisora has fought more decent fighters than wilder when you look at their respective records , ok he has been beaten by fury / whyte and / joshua but at least he has always stepped up and been willing to fight .

[gregregegg]

The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

You rank Washington as a better win than Hughie fury? To me that is mad. Hughie is boring but tough to beat. There are lots of 10-50 ranked guys that would get schooled by furry but ko Washington in my opinion.

I am so far from a Hughie fury fan but he is prime and although he lost Parker, pov and pulev on points.... You realy think those three wouldent stop Washington? As a scalp Hughie is ranked higher for me.

[dagilechia]

The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

You rank Washington as a better win than Hughie fury? To me that is mad. Hughie is boring but tough to beat. There are lots of 10-50 ranked guys that would get schooled by furry but ko Washington in my opinion.

I am so far from a Hughie fury fan but he is prime and although he lost Parker, pov and pulev on points.... You realy think those three wouldent stop Washington? As a scalp Hughie is ranked higher for me.

generally no but in this ranking style matters too, also, Washington now has a better win than any of Hughie's wins, and as i said, this is just my subjective ranking, so i really get your points, there are as much rankings as there are posters

[margaret thatcher]

I'd say Chisora stopping Takam tops anything over Boggy Dinu

[Jonny22Kupfer]

no change

[Finkel]

I'd say Chisora stopping Takam tops anything over Boggy Dinu

Those are all fights from 2019 I think

[margaret thatcher]

Ah, okay, I read too fast and thought it said it had been the last 2 years

[Finkel]

Ah, okay, I read too fast and thought it said it had been the last 2 years

Still I think Chisora's KO of Spilka should be at #3
As let's face it Breazeale was awful, so it can only be the style of the KO that has Wilder at #2
And Chisora's finish was highlight reel stuff for any heavyweight

[oogiebe]

Ah, okay, I read too fast and thought it said it had been the last 2 years

Still I think Chisora's KO of Spilka should be at #3
As let's face it Breazeale was awful, so it can only be the style of the KO that has Wilder at #2
And Chisora's finish was highlight reel stuff for any heavyweight

Breazeale beats Szpilka. Just because he got plastered by Wilder doesn't mean he isn't still a top 15 HW. AJ took 7 rounds to beat him if memory serves. The division isn't very talented...just competitive.

[oogiebe]

The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

Dismal really. What's it been... 2 years?

How can you not include the draw between Fury and Wilder? I know you said wins, but that draw has them both at the top of these rankings, No?

[margaret thatcher]

I don't think he still is top 15 tbh, though still above Szpilka

[oogiebe]

Being pasted by Wilder doesn't make drop him out of the top 15. Of course, he's probably through anyway.

[margaret thatcher]

Ya, it's more like a combo of being 1-1 with a brutal 1st round ko loss and just a win over Negron over the last 2 years about that does it. There is enough guys at the lower end of the top 15 who have done enough to push out guys like this , though a half decent win and right back into contention for the rankings

[keirw]

The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

I would rank Whyte's victory over Rivas ahead of Wilder's victory over Breazeale.
Purely because I believe Rivas would beat Breazeale.

[dagilechia]

The best wins since the creation of the rankings (my subjective list):

1. Andy Ruiz Jr TKO 7 Anthony Joshua

2. Deontay Wilder KO 1 Dominic Breazeale

3. Dillian Whyte UD 12 Oscar Rivas

4. Oscar Rivas TKO 12 Bryant Jennings

5. Michael Hunter UD 12 Sergey Kuzmin

6. Adam Kownacki TKO 2 Gerald Washington

7. Dereck Chisora KO 2 Artur Szpilka

8. Alexander Povetkin UD 12 Hughie Fury

9. Luis Ortiz UD 10 Christian Hammer

10. Kubrat Pulev KO 7 Bogdan Dinu

I would rank Whyte's victory over Rivas ahead of Wilder's victory over Breazeale.
Purely because I believe Rivas would beat Breazeale.

But Wilder destroyed Breazeale, while Whyte was down and won after an competetive fight. Of course, currently I rank Rivas higher than Breazeale as well.

[oogiebe]

I would rank Whyte's victory over Rivas ahead of Wilder's victory over Breazeale.
Purely because I believe Rivas would beat Breazeale.

But Wilder destroyed Breazeale, while Whyte was down and won after an competetive fight. Of course, currently I rank Rivas higher than Breazeale as well.

Yeah...manner of win counts in my book.

[keirw]

Fair enough, Wilder's win was pretty emphatic (despite getting wobbled himself).

[Finkel]

Fair enough, Wilder's win was pretty emphatic (despite getting wobbled himself).

Agreed Wilder did what he had to do in extremely impressive fashion.

But let's be honest here: Breazeale was awful. It's like he had never seen a wilder fight before. Trying to counter Wilder's set-up jab

But still what a KO!

[dagilechia]

The voting is over.

Dereck Chisora remains at #13, David Price remains unranked.

Current list:

1. Tyson Fury - 29(20) 0 1 - next fight: TBA

2. Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - next fight: 23.11.2019 vs Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - (#7)

3. Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - (#4)

4. Anthony Joshua - 22(21) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Andy Ruiz Jr - 33(22) 1(0) 0 - (#3)

5. Dillian Whyte - 26(18) 1(1) 0 - next fight: TBA

6. Alexander Povetkin - 35(24) 2(1) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Michael Hunter - 18(12) 1(0) 0 - (#15)

7. Luis Ortiz - 31(26) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 23.11.2019 vs Deontay Wilder - 41(40) 0 1 - (#2)

8. Kubrat Pulev - 27(14) 1(1) 0 - next fight: 09.11.2019 vs Rydell Booker - 26(13) 2(0) 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #124)

9. Joseph Parker - 26(20) 2(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

10. Oleksandr Usyk - 17(13) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

11. Óscar Rivas - 26(18) 1(0) 0 - next fight: TBA

12. Adam Kownacki - 20(15) 0 0 - next fight: TBA

13. Dereck Chisora - 32(23) 9(3) 0 - next fight: TBA

14. Filip Hrgović - 9(7) 0 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Eric Molina - 27(19) 5(5) 0 - (unranked, BoxRec's #36)

15. Michael Hunter - 18(12) 1(0) 0 - next fight: 07.12.2019 vs Alexander Povetkin - 35(24) 2(1) 0 - (#6)