Thanks RKORuthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 08:25Maybe 4amdr_devious wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 07:34 What time will ring walk be for this one? Might put the alarm on
Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
He'll be deducted 121 points and have to wear 44 oz glovesboxing_rocks wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 12:16 Any idea if there are fines in their contract for missing weight? What happens if Kovalev comes at 180?
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Canelo Alvarez $35 million, Sergey Kovalev $3 million
Kovalev will be making much more than what’s listed on the Nevada Athletic Commission paysheet.
Thanks to his deal with DAZN, Canelo’s official guarantee is $35 million, and that’s not even including subscription-driven incentives in his contract, or the money he makes from Mexican TV. Kovalev’s guarantee is a decidedly modest $3 million, but he’s reportedly making much more than that. The Athletic reported that Kovalev’s full sum is $12 million, although a cut of that will go to his co-promoters Main Events and Top Rank. It’s a career-high salary for Kovalev, who is just two months removed from his KO win over Anthony Yarde in Russia.
Here are the full salaries, per ESPN:
Canelo Alvarez: $35 million
Sergey Kovalev: $3 million (guaranteed several million more)
Ryan Garcia: $250,000
Romero Duno: $50,000
Bakhram Murtazaliev: $55,000
Jorge Fortea: $20,000
Seniesa Estrada: $50,000
Marlen Esparza: $50,000
Blair Cobbs: $20,000
Carlos Ortiz: $5,000
Meiirim Nursultanov: $12,500
Cristian Olivas: $12,000
Evan Holyfield: - Unknown
Nick Winstead: - Unknown
Kovalev will be making much more than what’s listed on the Nevada Athletic Commission paysheet.
Thanks to his deal with DAZN, Canelo’s official guarantee is $35 million, and that’s not even including subscription-driven incentives in his contract, or the money he makes from Mexican TV. Kovalev’s guarantee is a decidedly modest $3 million, but he’s reportedly making much more than that. The Athletic reported that Kovalev’s full sum is $12 million, although a cut of that will go to his co-promoters Main Events and Top Rank. It’s a career-high salary for Kovalev, who is just two months removed from his KO win over Anthony Yarde in Russia.
Here are the full salaries, per ESPN:
Canelo Alvarez: $35 million
Sergey Kovalev: $3 million (guaranteed several million more)
Ryan Garcia: $250,000
Romero Duno: $50,000
Bakhram Murtazaliev: $55,000
Jorge Fortea: $20,000
Seniesa Estrada: $50,000
Marlen Esparza: $50,000
Blair Cobbs: $20,000
Carlos Ortiz: $5,000
Meiirim Nursultanov: $12,500
Cristian Olivas: $12,000
Evan Holyfield: - Unknown
Nick Winstead: - Unknown
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
look at canelo's massive thick HGH-swollen brow ridge 
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Ward started his career at 168. He is SIGNIFICANTLY larger than Canelo.Ezzard wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 07:28 It seems to me that right now if Kov spent 12 rounds one-two’ing a heavy bag he would at some point run out of steam and become vulnerable to a stoppage defeat.
Ward was not big or powerful and whilst both fights were dodgy for different reasons the smaller man was not steam-rollered.
You really do talk some tripe.
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
seriously, that ridge of bone could stop a fvcking bullet
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
He's always had a prominent browCounter-puncher wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 13:22seriously, that ridge of bone could stop a fvcking bullet
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.
Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 15:26 Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.
Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
Scumbag. I can't wait until someone gets sued for a deplorable "rehydration clause".
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.Ricky wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 16:55Ruthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 15:26 Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.
Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
Scumbag. I can't wait until someone gets sued for a deplorable "rehydration clause".
Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:06Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.
Yeah let's see partially hydrated fighters get some brain injuries.
That's the reason why same-day weighins were outlawed, but it seems that if you have enough money you can enforce same-day weighins anyway.
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Do you think because of Canelo's 'reputation' for generous judging, that the judges may actually be harsh on him to make up for it, and that Canelo is actually at an unfair disadvantage now?leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:06Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Same day weigh ins are not outlawed, the vast majority of contests have same day weigh ins.Ricky wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:19leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:06
Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.
Yeah let's see partially hydrated fighters get some brain injuries.
That's the reason why same-day weighins were outlawed, but it seems that if you have enough money you can enforce same-day weighins anyway.
Title fights are day before weigh ins. A maximum weight gain would encourage boxers to compete in a more appropriate division. Some would still boil down too much, there is no financially viable ‘perfect’ system.
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
That idea has occurred to me in the past, I said something along those lines in the build up to Alvarez v Golovkin 2.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:19Do you think because of Canelo's 'reputation' for generous judging, that the judges may actually be harsh on him to make up for it, and that Canelo is actually at an unfair disadvantage now?leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:06
Strange point of view. I think all contests should have a maximum weight gain.
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
I hope Kov drops him on his head now even more than i did beforeRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 15:26 Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.
Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Simply put No.leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:26That idea has occurred to me in the past, I said something along those lines in the build up to Alvarez v Golovkin 2.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:19
Do you think because of Canelo's 'reputation' for generous judging, that the judges may actually be harsh on him to make up for it, and that Canelo is actually at an unfair disadvantage now?
It's happened in to many of Canelos fights and has been highlighted for years. It's not gonna change now
Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:25Same day weigh ins are not outlawed, the vast majority of contests have same day weigh ins.
Title fights are day before weigh ins. A maximum weight gain would encourage boxers to compete in a more appropriate division. Some would still boil down too much, there is no financially viable ‘perfect’ system.
As far as I'm aware most comissions state the weighin take place between 36-24 hours prior to the fight.
Same day weighins are a dangerous practice, particularly for the short notice journeyman. Guys like Floyd and Canelo get to circumvent the rules though.
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
Nope.Ricky wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 18:11leejonesjnr wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:25
Same day weigh ins are not outlawed, the vast majority of contests have same day weigh ins.
Title fights are day before weigh ins. A maximum weight gain would encourage boxers to compete in a more appropriate division. Some would still boil down too much, there is no financially viable ‘perfect’ system.
As far as I'm aware most comissions state the weighin take place between 36-24 hours prior to the fight.
Same day weighins are a dangerous practice, particularly for the short notice journeyman. Guys like Floyd and Canelo get to circumvent the rules though.
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
I watched the weigh-in live on a Youtube stream. Kovalev was over the light-heavy limit and given one hour to lose the excess weight. Dodgy dealings with the scales to give Alvaroids another advantage?
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Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
More likely that Kovalev was just a little over.Teddy's Toupee wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 19:08 I watched the weigh-in live on a Youtube stream. Kovalev was over the light-heavy limit and given one hour to lose the excess weight. Dodgy dealings with the scales to give Alvaroids another advantage?
Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
A mere quarter pound. He made weight on the second attempt. Nothing event.
Canelo looked ripped at 174.5.
Canelo looked ripped at 174.5.
Re: Canelo Alvarez vs. Sergey Kovalev - 2 November 2019
dr_devious wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 17:26I hope Kov drops him on his head now even more than i did beforeRuthless-RKO wrote: ↑01 Nov 2019, 15:26 Although Canelo Alvarez, who is moving up two weight divisions to 175 pounds, did not seek a catch weight for his light heavyweight world title challenge of Sergey Kovalev in an effort to drain him from his natural fighting weight, there is a rehydration clause in the contract, sources told ESPN. It requires both fighters to submit to a weight check on Saturday morning at which neither man can weigh more than 185 pounds, one source said. There are severe financial penalties if either man is over. Kovalev is used to weight checks on the morning of the fight from his days of holding the IBF title because that organization requires them.
Dan Rafael, ESPN Senior Writer
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