Was this fight bought?

[RonnyJ]

You know what makes things easier for Canelo? The fact he doesn't have to do poo to win a round. Also that he chose to fight these guys at a choice time. I also believe Kovalev was just happy to get paid that Mexican cheddar.

yeah. you right.

he doesnt need to win rds, he gets rds by judges. he relaxes saves energy for a potential ko at the end or gets a gift desicision like against lara or GGG.

Kovalev was just happy about the huge payday, 100 %

[greg]

.....Canelo's KO is def a legit one, no questions asked...the scoring/officiating though proved yet again that this particular venue, like it or not, is just NOT suitable for high-profile bouts, I would expect many more similar score cards in favor of protected boxers in the years to come..

[squiggy]

I think Kovalev lost a lot of his tough guy mentality after losing to Ward, losing to Ward again, and getting KTFO by Eleider Alvarez. The 'new" Kovalev that came back and avenged that last loss no longer deserved to be called Krusher; he looked more interested in not getting knocked out than hurting his opponent. He jabbed so much at Canelo because he took Canelo seriously (unlike Yarde, who really didn't mean anything), and because that's his late-career MO anyway. Not so much that "he's weak to the body" stuff as that he's had more than one taste now of getting badly hurt, and he's not crazy about it.
That knockout was real as real deal Holyfield, and there was no reason for the ref not to wave it off. Did you see how he went limp hanging onto that rope? He was gone like a motherfucker.
One thing you do have to say, though, is it sure must be nice to know you have the luxury to lay back and wait for the chance to hurt your opponent because you're winning rounds on the cards whether or not you're actually winning them in the ring. The best thing about the knockout was it kept us all from having to hear them read off what by the end probably would've been unanimous Canelo scores, and then hearing another Canelo interview where he was like "yeah, I definitely won almost every round, so the judges are right again."

[RonnyJ]

yarde means nothing but i bet his has more punching power than canelo

[squiggy]

But as an opponent, he couldn't have been up in Kovalev's head like Canelo was. One of 'em's just another fight, and the other one was a huge opportunity/P4P talent.

[RonnyJ]

yup

[Cyclops]

Kovalev got stopped like we all knew he would. Canelo doesn’t take fights he doesn’t know he can win. Kovalev knows the deal now fighting as the B side: he’s going to get screwed. I doubt he even bothered to train that much for this because he wasn’t going to win. He fought with no venom at all. I don’t know it I buy the conspiracy that he was paid to go easy on Canelo but he was certainly paid handsomely for his title and his name on the resume. Rounds went by where there was nothing on his punches and the guy is a puncher. It was for a paycheck and this isn’t a massive upset or anything unexpected: it’s exactly like I said at the start of this post: most of us predicted Canelo KO. It was always just a well timed cherry pick with the typical corrupt cards. Nothing else to see here.

[RonnyJ]

Kovalev got stopped like we all knew he would. Canelo doesn’t take fights he doesn’t know he can win. Kovalev knows the deal now fighting as the B side: he’s going to get screwed. I doubt he even bothered to train that much for this because he wasn’t going to win. He fought with no venom at all. I don’t know it I buy the conspiracy that he was paid to go easy on Canelo but he was certainly paid handsomely for his title and his name on the resume. Rounds went by where there was nothing on his punches and the guy is a puncher. It was for a paycheck and this isn’t a massive upset or anything unexpected: it’s exactly like I said at the start of this post: most of us predicted Canelo KO. It was always just a well timed cherry pick with the typical corrupt cards. Nothing else to see here.

It wasnt expected. No expert expected the smaller middleweight to KO a light heavyweight champion.

Look at mikey, he went up 2 divisions and fought a top level and got who is obvious when you step up 2 div. and fight the best.

Normaly kovalev would have done what spence did to mikey and to be honest i think like al bernstein, to me kovalev won all the rds.

[oogiebe]

This can't be serious...lmfao!

[Onetimeonly]

Kovalev got stopped like we all knew he would. Canelo doesn’t take fights he doesn’t know he can win. Kovalev knows the deal now fighting as the B side: he’s going to get screwed. I doubt he even bothered to train that much for this because he wasn’t going to win. He fought with no venom at all. I don’t know it I buy the conspiracy that he was paid to go easy on Canelo but he was certainly paid handsomely for his title and his name on the resume. Rounds went by where there was nothing on his punches and the guy is a puncher. It was for a paycheck and this isn’t a massive upset or anything unexpected: it’s exactly like I said at the start of this post: most of us predicted Canelo KO. It was always just a well timed cherry pick with the typical corrupt cards. Nothing else to see here.

It wasnt expected. No expert expected the smaller middleweight to KO a light heavyweight champion.

Look at mikey, he went up 2 divisions and fought a top level and got who is obvious when you step up 2 div. and fight the best.

Normaly kovalev would have done what spence did to mikey and to be honest i think like al bernstein, to me kovalev won all the rds.

I expected it.

[oogiebe]

It wasnt expected. No expert expected the smaller middleweight to KO a light heavyweight champion.

Look at mikey, he went up 2 divisions and fought a top level and got who is obvious when you step up 2 div. and fight the best.

Normaly kovalev would have done what spence did to mikey and to be honest i think like al bernstein, to me kovalev won all the rds.

I expected it.

Seriously...There was no surprise in the fight nor the outcome, nor how it came about.

[IKSRTFO]

I don't see how someone getting hit like that is fake. Stupid thread. And even if you had Kov winning, you could easily see Canelo landing the harder punches and backing Kovalev up.

[oogiebe]

I don't see how someone getting hit like that is fake. Stupid thread. And even if you had Kov winning, you could easily see Canelo landing the harder punches and backing Kovalev up.

[IKSRTFO]

the punch before the ko right cross was a punch that landed behind the ear. behind the ear is a ko punch, i give that to canelo. but the ref waving it off so quick irritates me. its not like a pacquiao hatton moment happened, where you could say "he wont 100 % get up in the next 10 secondes from this knock down".

the fight simply feels bought. judges had canelo leading on points, when kovalev was leading on points. kovalev never tried to hurt the smaller lighter canelo. it just doesnt feel right.

Dude was asleep. Even after the ref waved it off, he didn't get up.

[Ron C]

I think fixing a fight of this magnitude or paying someone off, is way too risky. Imagine if word got out that someone was being paid off, it’d be boxing’s watergate scandal. It’d be a huge ordeal. If someone spoke out and showed proof that a fight this big was fixed, the sport would be ruined. I don’t think anyone out there would risk doing that. Maybe decades ago there were fixed fights out there. I’m sure lots of fighters take dives too. They want the paycheck but don’t want the punishment. Look for an easy way out. Couldn’t imagine people taking the risk of compromising a fight of this magnitude though. The reputation of the sport would be finished. Lawsuits galore

[IKSRTFO]

He respected Canelo cos he's much higher quality than Yarde. If he fought Canelo as open as he did Yarde, he would've KOd sooner. I've been saying it for a while tho - Kovalev should forget about this distance poo and just focus on 4 rounds of dishing out hell - but he doesn't even seem capable of that anymore, which is just insane to me for a pro athlete.

He was very worried about the counters coming from Canelo.

[IKSRTFO]

Why do I keep seeing Yarde as some kind of measuring stick? Strong guy who had a fragile, dead tired Kovalev infront of him and couldn't put him away. Says more about the shortcomings of Yarde.

in the yarde fight, kovalev gave everything, he was aggressive at times, tried to hurt yarde, pushed the action and unleashed hooks etc.

in the canelo fight he was high 5 canelo all the time, he was nice, like he was having a light sparring with a friend and doesnt want to hurt him to much.

come on, if you in a multi million dollar fight and your opponent is natural much smaller and lighter than you, than you try to be physicle and rough him up, hooks to the body, uppercuts to the chin, you try to fu%&k him up. you dont throw 1 million jabs and high 5 all the time.

Kovalev doesn't fight like that. He's never been an inside rough and tough fighter either. He's a one two guy.

[IKSRTFO]

yarde means nothing but i bet his has more punching power than canelo

He does, but he isn't a better puncher. Harder puncher doesn't equal better puncher.

[RonnyJ]

I think fixing a fight of this magnitude or paying someone off, is way too risky. Imagine if word got out that someone was being paid off, it’d be boxing’s watergate scandal. It’d be a huge ordeal. If someone spoke out and showed proof that a fight this big was fixed, the sport would be ruined. I don’t think anyone out there would risk doing that. Maybe decades ago there were fixed fights out there. I’m sure lots of fighters take dives too. They want the paycheck but don’t want the punishment. Look for an easy way out. Couldn’t imagine people taking the risk of compromising a fight of this magnitude though. The reputation of the sport would be finished. Lawsuits galore

But paying judges off in big ppv fights is not risky?

Like the female ref who gave the fight to canelo when he lost 12 out of 12 rds against maywrather.

Or the judges of todays fight, who gave most rds to canelo, when experts like me or bernstein had kovalev winning every single rd.

The whole thing was a hoax

[Ron C]

I think fixing a fight of this magnitude or paying someone off, is way too risky. Imagine if word got out that someone was being paid off, it’d be boxing’s watergate scandal. It’d be a huge ordeal. If someone spoke out and showed proof that a fight this big was fixed, the sport would be ruined. I don’t think anyone out there would risk doing that. Maybe decades ago there were fixed fights out there. I’m sure lots of fighters take dives too. They want the paycheck but don’t want the punishment. Look for an easy way out. Couldn’t imagine people taking the risk of compromising a fight of this magnitude though. The reputation of the sport would be finished. Lawsuits galore

But paying judges off in big ppv fights is not risky?

Like the female ref who gave the fight to canelo when he lost 12 out of 12 rds against maywrather.

Or the judges of todays fight, who gave most rds to canelo, when experts like me or bernstein had kovalev every single rd.

The whole thing was a hoax

I don’t think any judges were paid off. I think they were just really ignorant and suck at their job. I feel like something would’ve leaked. We would’ve heard some big scandal. One of these judges would wanna be famous and write a book about how they were paid off. Something would happen

[RonnyJ]

But paying judges off in big ppv fights is not risky?

Like the female ref who gave the fight to canelo when he lost 12 out of 12 rds against maywrather.

Or the judges of todays fight, who gave most rds to canelo, when experts like me or bernstein had kovalev every single rd.

The whole thing was a hoax

I don’t think any judges were paid off. I think they were just really ignorant and suck at their job. I feel like something would’ve leaked. We would’ve heard some big scandal. One of these judges would wanna be famous and write a book about how they were paid off. Something would happen

So it is normal or just canelos luck that everytime he gets inside the ring he gets the judging on his side, even in fights where he clearly losses, like against mayweather, lara, GGG I.

Nonsense. The judges get something. Trust me. If its not cash, than it is other benificial things. And if its just "staying in the boxing game" and not OUT

After all it is a job and you want to make your boss happy and the boss is dazn, mgm, when these big companys want there superstar to win, than things happen so that he can win.

[giacomino]

I don't see how someone getting hit like that is fake. Stupid thread. And even if you had Kov winning, you could easily see Canelo landing the harder punches and backing Kovalev up.

This is a Trump thread, right? Benghazi!

[IKSRTFO]

I think fixing a fight of this magnitude or paying someone off, is way too risky. Imagine if word got out that someone was being paid off, it’d be boxing’s watergate scandal. It’d be a huge ordeal. If someone spoke out and showed proof that a fight this big was fixed, the sport would be ruined. I don’t think anyone out there would risk doing that. Maybe decades ago there were fixed fights out there. I’m sure lots of fighters take dives too. They want the paycheck but don’t want the punishment. Look for an easy way out. Couldn’t imagine people taking the risk of compromising a fight of this magnitude though. The reputation of the sport would be finished. Lawsuits galore

But paying judges off in big ppv fights is not risky?

Like the female ref who gave the fight to canelo when he lost 12 out of 12 rds against maywrather.

Or the judges of todays fight, who gave most rds to canelo, when experts like me or bernstein had kovalev winning every single rd.

The whole thing was a hoax

Doesn't even matter because Kovalev couldn't stay on his feet for all 12 rounds and couldn't hurt Canelo.

[Onetimeonly]

Kov has been fragile since ward. His unappreciated boxing skills when he was killing people feel safer and that's what mcgirt wants him doing any. If he came out seek and destroy like you conspiracy jack asses wanted he would have been stopped earlier.

[Gimp Mask]

I think what we saw was Kov afraid to go all out all fight for fear of gassing out or getting countered with something big.