Enlightened-One wrote: ↑06 Nov 2019, 18:54 Are the ages relevant though? How were these guys perceived at the time they faced Canelo?
I’ve already performed the research for you, so please check my post.
The problem I have is that the BoxRec forum considered the Canelo-Kovalev bout as being a 50-50 for fight beforehand, but now we know the outcome of that fight, people are using hindsight to criticise the Mexican.
Opinions of Kovalev clearly flip-flopped. And the same rule probably applies to the other guys Canelo faced. They’re good until they lose.
Similarly, fight fans considered Andy Ruiz Jr. as being garbage until he beat AJ. And now they think he’s a decent fighter.
They were all clearly past their primes, their best, so yes age has something to do with it, and how they were perceived.
Cotto was 3-2 on his fights previous to fighting Canelo, 35 yrs old, and had only 2 fights after, one of which he lost.
Mosely was clearly shot at 41 yrs old, 2-2-1 in his 5 bouts previously, and only had 5 fights after where he went 3-2 vs tomato can opposition.
Canelo clearly ducked and dropped his belt to avoid GGG, and it was not until GGG looked vulnerable vs Jacobs when he finally was confident enough to fight him. GGG is good, but not in his prime.
Floyd was 36 and anyone that knows at least a little about boxing knows he was not in his prime at 36 years of age. Him shutting out Canelo just shows what a master boxer/technician he was.
Kovalev had been KO'd twice, and clearly showed stamina issues, along with a known weakness to a body attack. And yes, again the age, wear and tear had something to do with it. Beating Kovalev pre-Ward and without weight stipulations would have been a great accomplishment. Kovalev was 4-3 in his last 7 bouts, and got stopped twice already.
I find it funny that your research didn't point to any of the facts I stated above. I didn't have to write a book about it either.
The vast majority of the points you raised were merely opinions not facts.
I am not obliged to include your opinions to the actual real-world facts I listed.
So the true cause for you being compelled to "laugh" is primarily due to your misinterpretation of the dictionary definition of simple words, such as comprehending the difference between "facts" and "opinions", rather than anything I actually wrote.
lmao no BoxRec did not consider it a 50-50 fight, just to pull a post of mine, Canelo was a handy favourite for this fight, the ESPN 'expert' poll also had him like 13-2 or something with most of the picks by KO
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑30 Oct 2019, 13:45
4:1 betting fave is Canelo
20:5 in the prediction game for Canelo
27-11 in the Brit poll for Canelo
39-34 in this poll for Canelo
They were all clearly past their primes, their best, so yes age has something to do with it, and how they were perceived.
Cotto was 3-2 on his fights previous to fighting Canelo, 35 yrs old, and had only 2 fights after, one of which he lost.
Mosely was clearly shot at 41 yrs old, 2-2-1 in his 5 bouts previously, and only had 5 fights after where he went 3-2 vs tomato can opposition.
Canelo clearly ducked and dropped his belt to avoid GGG, and it was not until GGG looked vulnerable vs Jacobs when he finally was confident enough to fight him. GGG is good, but not in his prime.
Floyd was 36 and anyone that knows at least a little about boxing knows he was not in his prime at 36 years of age. Him shutting out Canelo just shows what a master boxer/technician he was.
Kovalev had been KO'd twice, and clearly showed stamina issues, along with a known weakness to a body attack. And yes, again the age, wear and tear had something to do with it. Beating Kovalev pre-Ward and without weight stipulations would have been a great accomplishment. Kovalev was 4-3 in his last 7 bouts, and got stopped twice already.
I find it funny that your research didn't point to any of the facts I stated above. I didn't have to write a book about it either.
The vast majority of the points you raised were merely opinions not facts.
I am not obliged to include your opinions to the actual real-world facts I listed.
So the true cause for you being compelled to "laugh" is primarily due to your misinterpretation of the dictionary definition of simple words, such as comprehending the difference between "facts" and "opinions", rather than anything I actually wrote.
No, the vast majority of what I said are facts. I noticed you didn't dispute anything I said.
It's no wonder why so many here hate you like I hear. You are a complete idiot trying hard to look smart. Thankfully, most here see through your BS. Go away. You are the worst kind of troll.
Bandog wrote: ↑06 Nov 2019, 07:29
I think both. Morales is probably still upset that Canelo only got a 6 month ban when Morales got a 2 year ban for exactly the same thing - Clenbuterol in "tainted meat".
He is right about the age thing though. Mosley was about 40, Cotto 35 or 36, Floyd 36, Kovalev 36, GGG 36 or 37.
Are the ages relevant though? How were these guys perceived at the time they faced Canelo?
I’ve already performed the research for you, so please check my post.
The problem I have is that the BoxRec forum considered the Canelo-Kovalev bout as being a 50-50 for fight beforehand, but now we know the outcome of that fight, people are using hindsight to criticise the Mexican.
Opinions of Kovalev clearly flip-flopped. And the same rule probably applies to the other guys Canelo faced. They’re good until they lose.
Similarly, fight fans considered Andy Ruiz Jr. as being garbage until he beat AJ. And now they think he’s a decent fighter.
