Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
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apollo creed
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Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Saunders is still undefeated and he's the smw wbo champion but he's not looking that slick and sharp as he used to be. So for Canelo would be a good moment to take BJS's 0. Also I think that BJS would love to cash in vs Canelo rather than risking his '0' and a fat Canelo payday against Callum Smith or Jacobs. 
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bigjack
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Everyone knows Saunders would stink the place out though,that is probably the reason his record is lacking top quality opponents.apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 07:46 Saunders is still undefeated and he's the smw wbo champion but he's not looking that slick and sharp as he used to be. So for Canelo would be a good moment to take BJS's 0. Also I think that BJS would love to cash in vs Canelo rather than risking his '0' and a fat Canelo payday against Callum Smith or Jacobs.![]()
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apollo creed
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Yup or maybe he loses his pen everytime he's on the verge to sign a contract. lolbigjack wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 08:24Everyone knows Saunders would stink the place out though,that is probably the reason his record is lacking top quality opponents.apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 07:46 Saunders is still undefeated and he's the smw wbo champion but he's not looking that slick and sharp as he used to be. So for Canelo would be a good moment to take BJS's 0. Also I think that BJS would love to cash in vs Canelo rather than risking his '0' and a fat Canelo payday against Callum Smith or Jacobs.![]()
Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
canelo would destroy bjs
so expect an anouncement soon
so expect an anouncement soon
Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Why would Canelo risk pissing off his fan base for a belt?
His fans like action fights. The only time I've ever heard boo'ing at a Canelo fight was the last 2-3 rounds when Wifebeater Jr was dancing around him not engaging.
I can't imagine his fans tolerating a BJS performance without starting a riot after 3 rounds. It's a security risk. Even the lovely polite Canadians were ready to burn the joint down during the Lemieux fight. And thy was one of his slightly more entertaining performances.
Canelo doesn't care that much about one belt to bother I think.
His fans like action fights. The only time I've ever heard boo'ing at a Canelo fight was the last 2-3 rounds when Wifebeater Jr was dancing around him not engaging.
I can't imagine his fans tolerating a BJS performance without starting a riot after 3 rounds. It's a security risk. Even the lovely polite Canadians were ready to burn the joint down during the Lemieux fight. And thy was one of his slightly more entertaining performances.
Canelo doesn't care that much about one belt to bother I think.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
The same way that Golovkin, Canelo, Eubank Jr. et al “lost their pen” when they had the opportunity to face Saunders?apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 09:31Yup or maybe he loses his pen everytime he's on the verge to sign a contract. lol
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
He was good only when he was cheating.apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 07:46 Saunders is still undefeated and he's the smw wbo champion but he's not looking that slick and sharp as he used to be. So for Canelo would be a good moment to take BJS's 0. Also I think that BJS would love to cash in vs Canelo rather than risking his '0' and a fat Canelo payday against Callum Smith or Jacobs.![]()
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apollo creed
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
It depends of what version of BJS would appear inside the ring. But yeah I agree that Canelo would beat him.
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apollo creed
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Agree but somehow BJS is seen as the 'white version of Lara' who nobody wants to fight him bc he is too 'slick and tricky' (not so much atm), so Canelo may jump at the opportunity and add another 'difficult' opponent style wise on his resume. Not a very good business but it solidifies his legacy even more from the perspective of boxing purists, I guess.KiwiRider wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 14:36 Why would Canelo risk pissing off his fan base for a belt?
His fans like action fights. The only time I've ever heard boo'ing at a Canelo fight was the last 2-3 rounds when Wifebeater Jr was dancing around him not engaging.
I can't imagine his fans tolerating a BJS performance without starting a riot after 3 rounds. It's a security risk. Even the lovely polite Canadians were ready to burn the joint down during the Lemieux fight. And thy was one of his slightly more entertaining performances.
Canelo doesn't care that much about one belt to bother I think.
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apollo creed
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:12The same way that Golovkin, Canelo, Eubank Jr. et al “lost their pen” when they had the opportunity to face Saunders?apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 09:31
Yup or maybe he loses his pen everytime he's on the verge to sign a contract. lol
You are delusional wrong son.
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
That is possible. I still stand by my statement. Canelo has built his fan base by being entertaining. His Mexican or Mexamerican fans are probably not the right audience for a BJS fight. Canelo has dropped belts in the past. It's more about the business and $$$ than the plaudits. So it makes good business sense to avoid BJS. Keep his fans on side. Let's face it, he can cherry pick anyone from MW to LHW and put on a show. He does not need to piss off his fans for whatever BJS brings.apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:29Agree but somehow BJS is seen as the 'white version of Lara' who nobody wants to fight him bc he is too 'slick and tricky' (not so much atm), so Canelo may jump at the opportunity and add another 'difficult' opponent style wise on his resume. Not a very good business but it solidifies his legacy even more.KiwiRider wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 14:36 Why would Canelo risk pissing off his fan base for a belt?
His fans like action fights. The only time I've ever heard boo'ing at a Canelo fight was the last 2-3 rounds when Wifebeater Jr was dancing around him not engaging.
I can't imagine his fans tolerating a BJS performance without starting a riot after 3 rounds. It's a security risk. Even the lovely polite Canadians were ready to burn the joint down during the Lemieux fight. And thy was one of his slightly more entertaining performances.
Canelo doesn't care that much about one belt to bother I think.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
I suppose the videos I previously posted during our previous chats about this matter don't count, eh?apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:36Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:12
The same way that Golovkin, Canelo, Eubank Jr. et al “lost their pen” when they had the opportunity to face Saunders?![]()
You are delusional wrong son.
Even die-hard GGG fans have conceded the accuracy of my claims.
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apollo creed
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Yup. Indeed BJS is a spoiler in terms of action. Probably a 3rd fight against GGG would make more $en$e for the fans than a fight with BJS.KiwiRider wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:37That is possible. I still stand by my statement. Canelo has built his fan base by being entertaining. His Mexican or Mexamerican fans are probably not the right audience for a BJS fight. Canelo has dropped belts in the past. It's more about the business and $$$ than the plaudits. So it makes good business sense to avoid BJS. Keep his fans on side. Let's face it, he can cherry pick anyone from MW to LHW and put on a show. He does not need to piss off his fans for whatever BJS brings.apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:29
Agree but somehow BJS is seen as the 'white version of Lara' who nobody wants to fight him bc he is too 'slick and tricky' (not so much atm), so Canelo may jump at the opportunity and add another 'difficult' opponent style wise on his resume. Not a very good business but it solidifies his legacy even more.
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apollo creed
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
You don't know the inside discussions between the parties involved and how serious they were. So stop speculating based on some very subjective videos. Bottom line is GGG, Canelo and Jacobs fought each other showing their will to fight the best meanwhile Saunders was playing safe to keep his 0 intact for the time he would want to cash in. He fought a bunch of stiffs after Lemieux.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:38I suppose the videos I previously posted during our previous chats about this matter don't count, eh?
Even die-hard GGG fans have conceded the accuracy of my claims.
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apollo creed
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Now that Saunders is with DAZN and he also senses that he is starting to slow down he may beg for a Canelo big payday to cash in. BJS would basically sell his beloved-coddled 0 and his trinket to Canelo for a fat paycheck. 
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bigjack
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
x2 good postapollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:56You don't know the inside discussions between the parties involved and how serious they were. So stop speculating based on some very subjective videos. Bottom line is GGG, Canelo and Jacobs fought each other showing their will to fight the best meanwhile Saunders was playing safe to keep his 0 intact for the time he would want to cash in. He fought a bunch of stiffs after Lemieux.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:38
I suppose the videos I previously posted during our previous chats about this matter don't count, eh?
Even die-hard GGG fans have conceded the accuracy of my claims.![]()
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
X3
... And yeah, video posted by EO troll don't count.
... And yeah, video posted by EO troll don't count.
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Enlightened-One
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Tom Loeffler and Fräñk Wärrën do... or does their opinions (captured on video) not count?apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:56You don't know the inside discussions between the parties involved and how serious they were.Enlightened-One wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:38
I suppose the videos I previously posted during our previous chats about this matter don't count, eh?
Even die-hard GGG fans have conceded the accuracy of my claims.
You’re pretending that you’ve not seen them, but we’ve discussed this topic multiple times on numerous threads. And you’ve even commented on some of the videos I posted.
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Agree. And the same applies to Andrade. Snooze fest performances don't get you Canelo fight.KiwiRider wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:37That is possible. I still stand by my statement. Canelo has built his fan base by being entertaining. His Mexican or Mexamerican fans are probably not the right audience for a BJS fight. Canelo has dropped belts in the past. It's more about the business and $$$ than the plaudits. So it makes good business sense to avoid BJS. Keep his fans on side. Let's face it, he can cherry pick anyone from MW to LHW and put on a show. He does not need to piss off his fans for whatever BJS brings.apollo creed wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 15:29
Agree but somehow BJS is seen as the 'white version of Lara' who nobody wants to fight him bc he is too 'slick and tricky' (not so much atm), so Canelo may jump at the opportunity and add another 'difficult' opponent style wise on his resume. Not a very good business but it solidifies his legacy even more.
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
I only see the highlights of last night but BJ's is normally pretty bad when there's no real test and canelo has slow feet and doesn't like mover's I'd call a canelo fight as 50/50 i thought canelo looked average vs kovalev other than the last 10 second's
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Canelo's beating BJS if they fight
Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Alvarez really should collect a belt at 168 before he gains too much weight and permanently moves to 175. So I mean, fighting BJS or another SMW titlist right now would make sense.
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boxing_rocks
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Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.
Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
Doesn't matter in the context of the trivial question: "How many weight divisions has Alvarez held a belt in?" Also related: Pacquiao should've made a pit stop at 140 to collect a belt there.boxing_rocks wrote: ↑10 Nov 2019, 18:21That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.
Re: Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm
I think about it this way;
Would I pay top dollar to see Canelo and BJS fight?
Taking into consideration the undercard will be lousy, as his gingerness sucks all the money out first.
The answer is no.
No way.
Would I pay top dollar to see Canelo and BJS fight?
Taking into consideration the undercard will be lousy, as his gingerness sucks all the money out first.
The answer is no.
No way.