Saunders may be an appealing good scalp for Canelo atm

[Enlightened-One]

Alvarez really should collect a belt at 168 before he gains too much weight and permanently moves to 175. So I mean, fighting BJS or another SMW titlist right now would make sense.

That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

What do you think about GGG’s title winning efforts to capture the WBA regular, WBA super and WBC world championships?

Apart from the IBF strap gained during the David Lemieux bout, what belts has GGG captured inside the ring against champions that actually held a legitimate version of a world middleweight championship at the time of their fight?

[boxing_rocks]

That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

Doesn't matter in the context of the trivial question: "How many weight divisions has Alvarez held a belt in?" Also related: Pacquiao should've made a pit stop at 140 to collect a belt there.

He had Fielding's trinket.

[Lackeos]

Doesn't matter in the context of the trivial question: "How many weight divisions has Alvarez held a belt in?" Also related: Pacquiao should've made a pit stop at 140 to collect a belt there.

He had Fielding's trinket.

Oh, yeah, never mind. I can't believe there was a belt at stake in that fight.

[squiggy]

That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

Doesn't matter in the context of the trivial question: "How many weight divisions has Alvarez held a belt in?" Also related: Pacquiao should've made a pit stop at 140 to collect a belt there.

He did. He just did it after having already fought at 147.

[apollo creed]

You don't know the inside discussions between the parties involved and how serious they were. So stop speculating based on some very subjective videos. Bottom line is GGG, Canelo and Jacobs fought each other showing their will to fight the best meanwhile Saunders was playing safe to keep his 0 intact for the time he would want to cash in. He fought a bunch of stiffs after Lemieux.

x2 good post

[apollo creed]

X3

... And yeah, video posted by EO troll don't count.

true. He wants some online attention and validation.

[apollo creed]

You don't know the inside discussions between the parties involved and how serious they were.

Tom Loeffler and Fräñk Wärrën do... or does their opinions (captured on video) not count?

You’re pretending that you’ve not seen them, but we’ve discussed this topic multiple times on numerous threads. And you’ve even commented on some of the videos I posted.

It's irrelevant son. Nobody would tell to the media what they really talked behind the closed doors. So stop being so naive.

[apollo creed]

That is possible. I still stand by my statement. Canelo has built his fan base by being entertaining. His Mexican or Mexamerican fans are probably not the right audience for a BJS fight. Canelo has dropped belts in the past. It's more about the business and $$$ than the plaudits. So it makes good business sense to avoid BJS. Keep his fans on side. Let's face it, he can cherry pick anyone from MW to LHW and put on a show. He does not need to piss off his fans for whatever BJS brings.

Agree. And the same applies to Andrade. Snooze fest performances don't get you Canelo fight.

BJS and Andrade should snooze each other at 160 lbs, 164 lbs cw or 168 lbs. At least they would prove a point and get some attention/ hype.

[apollo creed]

Alvarez really should collect a belt at 168 before he gains too much weight and permanently moves to 175. So I mean, fighting BJS or another SMW titlist right now would make sense.

That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

Indeed but boxing media and Canelo's public would say that Canelo fought the undefeated slick fighter that nobody wanted to fight in BJS, bla, bla, bla. It may be a good option for Canelo although BJS didn't do sh#t at 168 lbs and he also looked vulnerable. It's a good low-ish risk and decent recognition type of fight for Canelo. There is no doubt that the man to beat at 168 lbs is Callum Smith and that's a fight I'd really want to see it but Callum is too risky for Canelo imo.

[Evander]

He was on the under card of two people who scrapped on the internet right.

[apollo creed]

That belt held by BJS isn't worth much more than Fielding's paper belt. Saunders didn't beat anybody of note to get it or defend it.

What do you think about GGG’s title winning efforts to capture the WBA regular, WBA super and WBC world championships?

Apart from the IBF strap gained during the David Lemieux bout, what belts has GGG captured inside the ring against champions that actually held a legitimate version of a world middleweight championship at the time of their fight?

Canelo gave up/vacated his mw WBC title to not fight GGG when G was still strong and very dangerous as everybody knows very well that. He wasn't G's fault. But what about G fighting top MW's like Murray, Lemieux, Jacobs and Canelo? Yeahh G fought the very best in his division and beat them all, of course beside the second fight with Canelo but even that was a close-competitive fight.

[Lairdy]

I don't think there's anyone at M or SMW that'd beat a fit and focused BJS.

All the tall poppies on here trashing BJS with the usual garbage about not fighting "top opponents" and the like. Eubank Jnr, Ryder, Munroe Jnr, Lemieux, Lee. All quality opponents. If Canelo was to fight the same BJS that made Lemieux look like a novice, he wouldn't get a glove on him!

[apollo creed]

I don't think there's anyone at M or SMW that'd beat a fit and focused BJS.

All the tall poppies on here trashing BJS with the usual garbage about not fighting "top opponents" and the like. Eubank Jnr, Ryder, Munroe Jnr, Lemieux, Lee. All quality opponents. If Canelo was to fight the same BJS that made Lemieux look like a novice, he wouldn't get a glove on him!

The thing is Billy ain't fit and focused nowadays as he used to be, especially if he can't use anymore his favorite nasal spray. Now he's coasting through 'bums' hoping he'd land a big fight vs Canelo. Since the Lemieux fight, BJS didn't show no will to step up to even better opponents. Also he was caught testing positive for oxilofrine.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oxilofrine (also known as methylsynephrine, hydroxyephrine, oxyephrine, and 4-HMP) is a stimulant drug[1] and is an amphetamine chemically related to ephedrine and to synephrine.

Oxilofrine is currently a World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) prohibited substance when used in competition.[2] It has been found as an adulterant in some dietary supplements.[3][4] Even after receiving warning letters from the FDA,[5] some sports and weight loss supplement companies continue to use oxilofrine as an undeclared ingredient in their products despite it being prohibited.[6]

[Enlightened-One]

What do you think about GGG’s title winning efforts to capture the WBA regular, WBA super and WBC world championships?

Apart from the IBF strap gained during the David Lemieux bout, what belts has GGG captured inside the ring against champions that actually held a legitimate version of a world middleweight championship at the time of their fight?

Canelo gave up/vacated his mw WBC title to not fight GGG when G was still strong and very dangerous as everybody knows very well that.

Have you forgotten the circumstances surrounding Canelo being forced to vacate his WBC title and the resulting feud that ensued between both parties?

Do you need reminding or are you going to come clean and be honest?

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

If you arent fighting boring Andrade you are fighting saunders

[apollo creed]

If you arent fighting boring Andrade you are fighting saunders

I don't know why they don't fight each other?

[KiwiRider]

If you arent fighting boring Andrade you are fighting saunders

I don't know why they don't fight each other?

Because no one wants to see it.
BooJS and Andrade would stink the joint out so bad, the venue would never be fit for humans outside of a hazmat suit.

[Impractical Poster]

Canelo gave up/vacated his mw WBC title to not fight GGG when G was still strong and very dangerous as everybody knows very well that.

Have you forgotten the circumstances surrounding Canelo being forced to vacate his WBC title and the resulting feud that ensued between both parties?

Do you need reminding or are you going to come clean and be honest?

Tell us all about it EO

[boxing_rocks]

We know the circumstances: WBC sanctioned Cotto vs Canelo under a condition that a winner will fight GGG in their first defense.

[Lairdy]

I don't think there's anyone at M or SMW that'd beat a fit and focused BJS.

All the tall poppies on here trashing BJS with the usual garbage about not fighting "top opponents" and the like. Eubank Jnr, Ryder, Munroe Jnr, Lemieux, Lee. All quality opponents. If Canelo was to fight the same BJS that made Lemieux look like a novice, he wouldn't get a glove on him!

The thing is Billy ain't fit and focused nowadays as he used to be, especially if he can't use anymore his favorite nasal spray. Now he's coasting through 'bums' hoping he'd land a big fight vs Canelo. Since the Lemieux fight, BJS didn't show no will to step up to even better opponents. Also he was caught testing positive for oxilofrine.

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Oxilofrine (also known as methylsynephrine, hydroxyephrine, oxyephrine, and 4-HMP) is a stimulant drug[1] and is an amphetamine chemically related to ephedrine and to synephrine.

Oxilofrine is currently a World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) prohibited substance when used in competition.[2] It has been found as an adulterant in some dietary supplements.[3][4] Even after receiving warning letters from the FDA,[5] some sports and weight loss supplement companies continue to use oxilofrine as an undeclared ingredient in their products despite it being prohibited.[6]

Correct, BJS tested positive for Oxilofrine. However, this was a volantary, out of competition test. Oxilofrine isn't a banned substance when used outside of competition; hence why WADA didn't ban him.

The Lemieux fight was two years ago. With all the crap - albiet his own fault - BJS has been through since that fight, I couldn't blame him for not being fully focused. This is why I mentioned a "focused" BJS. what better way to regain your focus than a fight with Canelo...

[margaret thatcher]

Canelo would beat BJS

And then omg it would be so convenient to say he simply wasn't fit and focused

Btw a good few fighters would school or simply beatdown Lem whether at 168 or 160, GGG didn't even get touched despite being notoriously hittable. Don't really know how anyone watches BJS and sees a guy who doesn't lose to anyone at 168 or 160.

Aside from terrible showings like the other night, or the random Turkish guy hurting him, he usually just scrapes by even vs his better opposition. Ryder, Lee, Eubank, etc...all just edged them. Monroe was a 116-113 type fight and hell even Blackwell pushed him. The fight vs a totally crude Lemieux has caused some people to forget that and act like he's some sort of 12-0 boxing master.

[Enlightened-One]

Have you forgotten the circumstances surrounding Canelo being forced to vacate his WBC title and the resulting feud that ensued between both parties?

Do you need reminding or are you going to come clean and be honest?

Tell us all about it EO

Let me know what your thoughts are about the situation? I just want to make sure you’re not wasting my time and you’ve shown enough initiative to research the subject matter yourself.

It ain’t difficult.

[Impractical Poster]

Tell us all about it EO

Let me know what your thoughts are about the situation? I just want to make sure you’re not wasting my time and you’ve shown enough initiative to research the subject matter yourself.

It ain’t difficult.

EO, if I knew about the situation, why the hell would I be asking you to tell us about it? So please... enlighten us.

[lazboy]

We are all just waiting with bated breath aren’t we

[Stuarty]

Well he's certainly a better 'scalp' than Rocky fuckin Fielding who Canelo fought just a year ago! BJS is a real fight for Canelo and not just a headline grab like the Fielding debacle!