Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 07 Dec 2019, 13:05

Ruiz - Decision
4
3%
Ruiz - T/KO
66
53%
DRAW
2
2%
Joshua - T/KO
36
29%
Joshua - Decision
17
14%
 
Total votes: 125

oogiebe
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Nov 2019, 14:43
oogiebe wrote: 01 Nov 2019, 14:26

I read it is a problem with the plane and they are chartering another flight.
I guess some may not make it to appear on Smackdown tonight then..
Most won't. WWE is already scrambling to even fill the two hours.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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It's a great card, to be fair.
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Anthony Joshua adds new coach for Andy Ruiz Jr. Saudi Arabia rematch

Joshua remained loyal to Team GB Head of Boxing Robert McCracken due to their history. But has now decided to add another face to the staff. That’s where it’s believed Angel Fernandez will step in and take some of the slack from McCracken.

The pair will are set to work with Joshua in Saudi Arabia to formulate a plan to reclaim the titles. Fernandez has worked with Joshua’s compatriot Isaac Chamberlain and Kazakh world champion elect Sultan Zaurbek. The London-based coach has also got ties to the Women’s GB Team with Sandy Ryan.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Quigg pulls out, is that bout getting replaced ?
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MightyWarrior wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 09:36 Quigg pulls out, is that bout getting replaced ?
Whyte or Brook might get in
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Ahhh, slave labour at it's finest.
Nice to see the foremen get a hard hat at least. He's probbly the only one who knows where the slaves passports are hidden, so it makes sense to protect his noggin.
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KiwiRider wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 18:59 Ahhh, slave labour at it's finest.
Nice to see the foremen get a hard hat at least. He's probbly the only one who knows where the slaves passports are hidden, so it makes sense to protect his noggin.
How much you being charged for this?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 18:59
KiwiRider wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 18:59 Ahhh, slave labour at it's finest.
Nice to see the foremen get a hard hat at least. He's probbly the only one who knows where the slaves passports are hidden, so it makes sense to protect his noggin.
How much you being charged for this?
Dunno yet matie :maybe:
I will let you know.
Wife is paying, so I've heard. :oops:
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oogiebe wrote: 01 Nov 2019, 14:48
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Nov 2019, 14:43

I guess some may not make it to appear on Smackdown tonight then..
Most won't. WWE is already scrambling to even fill the two hours.
Apparently, the Saudi’s only paid half the fee and messed the WWE around so Vince McMahon cut the live feed over there. The rulers were fuming so cancelled their plane home making the wrestlers miss commitments. WWE is now suing the Saudi lot.
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KiwiRider wrote: 16 Nov 2019, 18:59 Ahhh, slave labour at it's finest.
Nice to see the foremen get a hard hat at least. He's probbly the only one who knows where the slaves passports are hidden, so it makes sense to protect his noggin.
To be honest I wouldn’t want a hard hat or bit of high vis anywhere near me, the only protection I’d want grafting there would be factor 50!
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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I re watched their fight this morning and I can't see how AJ can win the rematch Ruiz won 6 of the 7 rds I only gave AJ the second Rd . When AJ tried to keep it long he couldn't keep it up for 3 minutes and Ruiz would back him up and use his faster hands to punch with AJ and his punched had much more effect on AJ than AJ on Ruiz .it will be a stoppage win for Ruiz again
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mickey1975 wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 03:39
oogiebe wrote: 01 Nov 2019, 14:48

Most won't. WWE is already scrambling to even fill the two hours.
Apparently, the Saudi’s only paid half the fee and messed the WWE around so Vince McMahon cut the live feed over there. The rulers were fuming so cancelled their plane home making the wrestlers miss commitments. WWE is now suing the Saudi lot.
I’ve heard a few different stories. From different sources.

The money part is likely true, you’d think they’d ask for money up front.

The cutting feed bit I heard wasn’t Vince’s doing, nor was the plane not setting off Saudi’s doing.
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paddy chavez wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 06:11 I re watched their fight this morning and I can't see how AJ can win the rematch Ruiz won 6 of the 7 rds I only gave AJ the second Rd . When AJ tried to keep it long he couldn't keep it up for 3 minutes and Ruiz would back him up and use his faster hands to punch with AJ and his punched had much more effect on AJ than AJ on Ruiz .it will be a stoppage win for Ruiz again
I agree, but the judges will no doubt try their best to help AJ, one had him ahead at the time of stoppage in the first fight. Judges won’t come into though. Just can’t see AJ being able to match Ruiz when he lets his hands go.
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 07:09
paddy chavez wrote: 17 Nov 2019, 06:11 I re watched their fight this morning and I can't see how AJ can win the rematch Ruiz won 6 of the 7 rds I only gave AJ the second Rd . When AJ tried to keep it long he couldn't keep it up for 3 minutes and Ruiz would back him up and use his faster hands to punch with AJ and his punched had much more effect on AJ than AJ on Ruiz .it will be a stoppage win for Ruiz again
I agree, but the judges will no doubt try their best to help AJ, one had him ahead at the time of stoppage in the first fight. Judges won’t come into though. Just can’t see AJ being able to match Ruiz when he lets his hands go.
I'll have a bet on a Ruiz stoppage but I must be the worst Gambler ever I bet £50 on haye to stop Bellow in the first 6rds and kovalev to win on points vs canelo
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Should be in first 6 rounds I’m sure. I’m guessing Ruiz strategy might be to start quickly and play on the fact Joshua will have no confidence.
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Fascinating going through the fight trade predictions in box monthly ...seems around 50/50...

And my go-to-guy, Graham Houston - when in doubt, back who ever that man backs ...and that’s Joshua
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hnson8923 wrote: 20 Nov 2019, 04:27 This time the fight will will not be the early hours of the morning for British fans like the first clash between the pair in New York.
Did anyone ask that?
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danconnollyeire wrote: 20 Nov 2019, 11:08
hnson8923 wrote: 20 Nov 2019, 04:27 This time the fight will will not be the early hours of the morning for British fans like the first clash between the pair in New York.
Did anyone ask that?
I think he was just sharing information most of us knew?
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 20 Nov 2019, 11:32
danconnollyeire wrote: 20 Nov 2019, 11:08

Did anyone ask that?
I think he was just sharing information most of us knew?
It's a strange account
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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I think we will see a very cautious AJ in this fight. He will keep Ruiz at distance for at least 6-8 rounds to feel him out.

I am predicting a decision victory to AJ
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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I still haven't made up my mind on this one, but the closer to the date it get's the more I lean towards Ruiz by KO. In the weeks after the bout, I kept thinking, AJ will re-focus and destroy Ruiz, but the more I look at that first fight, the less likely that seems. Then I started thinking, well perhaps AJ will take a safety first approach and work behind a busy jab to score a wide decision or late TKO, but here again, Ruiz with his high guard handled the jab very well. At this point I see Joshua's best chance being landing big early and following up without getting countered. Easier said than done, since Ruiz was much better in the exchanges. And maybe the biggest reason of all is just looking at AJ's expressions when getting off the canvas and when the fight was stopped. He just didn't look very upset by the fact that a smaller fat kicked his ass.
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