Which HW would beat every other HW?

Pick

Holmes
4
9%
Ali
13
28%
Foreman
0
No votes
W. Klitschko
1
2%
V. Klitschko
7
15%
Tyson
4
9%
Lewis
12
26%
Joshua
0
No votes
Wilder
2
4%
Fury
3
7%
 
Total votes: 46

man
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by man »

regarding size. the big guy can quickly
looks silly when he is hit and even non
super heavies can have spectacular
power. does anyone even bring up the
size difference in the upcoming match
joshua - ruiz?

ali and holmes would do quite well with
bigger guys, for prime tyson you can bet
his speed would put him in range.

to me the super seize issue is over rated.
a decent, natural heavy of normal size
can take on the bigger guys.
RonnyJ
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by RonnyJ »

RonnyJ wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:32
Jeff_lacy_ko wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:25 None ruled but none were near as good as ali

Id those guys can beat your supermen giants someone more talented in nearly ever facet could possibly rule them.
what do you mean by your first sentence?

to be honest i cant understand your seconde sentence either, is english your first language?

i assume you mean alis skills surpass the skills of the super heavyweights i mentioned, right?
well, yes ali has better skills than all super heavyweights, i aggree. but skills alone dont make it. if skills alone make it, than ali wouldve easily beat foreman and norton, he was superior to them on the skill level. but he struggled cause these guys were very big very strong. klitschkos, joshua and lewis are even more bigger and stronger than foreman or norton. thats all i am saying.
ali lacked punching power. his stamina wasnt also the best, since he hated training and often came in semi good shape.
ewenhay
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by ewenhay »

Kalan's back then.
RonnyJ
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by RonnyJ »

man wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:33 regarding size. the big guy can quickly
looks silly when he is hit and even non
super heavies can have spectacular
power. does anyone even bring up the
size difference in the upcoming match
joshua - ruiz?

ali and holmes would do quite well with
bigger guys, for prime tyson you can bet
his speed would put him in range.

to me the super seize issue is over rated.
a decent, natural heavy of normal size
can take on the bigger guys.
i voted tyson. the prime version of tyson would beat every other hw ever. he is the best. but he was a rare talent, not comparable to the other smaller hw.
ValMar
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by ValMar »

Considering prime for prime, Ali (1967) would have defeated maybe 7 out of 9 listed opponents, and this would be the maximum.
Onetimeonly
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by Onetimeonly »

RonnyJ wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:43
man wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:33 regarding size. the big guy can quickly
looks silly when he is hit and even non
super heavies can have spectacular
power. does anyone even bring up the
size difference in the upcoming match
joshua - ruiz?

ali and holmes would do quite well with
bigger guys, for prime tyson you can bet
his speed would put him in range.

to me the super seize issue is over rated.
a decent, natural heavy of normal size
can take on the bigger guys.
i voted tyson. the prime version of tyson would beat every other hw ever. he is the best. but he was a rare talent, not comparable to the other smaller hw.
:lol:
Controversial
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by Controversial »

man wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:33 regarding size. the big guy can quickly
looks silly when he is hit and even non
super heavies can have spectacular
power. does anyone even bring up the
size difference in the upcoming match
joshua - ruiz?

ali and holmes would do quite well with
bigger guys, for prime tyson you can bet
his speed would put him in range.

to me the super seize issue is over rated.
a decent, natural heavy of normal size
can take on the bigger guys.
The lighter version of Ali would have more luck than the more flat footed older version of himself. His movement was much better before his exile.
oogiebe
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by oogiebe »

squiggy wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:12
RonnyJ wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:08

none of them ruled the hw division. you know what ruling a division means. it means you are #1 in the division and you reign for a long period of time. lewis, klitschkos, joshua, they all ruled the division. none of the smaller boxer ruled the division. they became champions (now how many champion titles do we got 4 or 5 :doh: ), they had lucky nights upsets, but none ruled the divison. the last smaller hw who ruled the division was tyson and that was 30 years ago. holyfield wanted to rule the division and met tall bowe and tall lewis and realised he was not the best hw in the world.
Joshua never ruled the division. There wasn't one year when he was obviously and without doubt the best heavyweight.
You beat me to the punch on that one! :lol:
oogiebe
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by oogiebe »

RonnyJ wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:20
squiggy wrote: 19 Nov 2019, 12:12

Joshua never ruled the division. There wasn't one year when he was obviously and without doubt the best heavyweight.
he was very dominant and considered #1 for 2 years. he did many attemps to fight wilder, but wilder only ran his mouth and wanted no part of joshua. tyical for usa boxers, they talk a lot and than pu$/)y out. wilder lied about a 50 million offer, a offer which hearn never received. as dumb as wilder his maybe he cant send an email.

but you are right being considered #1 of a division for 2 years is not ruling, ruling is for a longer period of time, i would say it starts with 4 or 5 years. that is very dominant when you clean out the division you are in and considered the 1
When did AJ clean out the division?
margaret thatcher
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Re: Which HW would beat every other HW?

Post by margaret thatcher »

He had the deepest resume but never cleared it out
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