Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Shouldn't there be a none of the above option in that poll?
He would probably be favourite against Chisora, but I doubt the PBC would want to make that fight.
More likely he will be kept on the PBC side of the street.
Most obvious match-up would be Kownacki in first half 2020,
then to be a future "name" opponent for Ruiz Jr. (if AJ wins) in second half 2020,
then either become a journeyman gate-keeper for young prospects or retire.
The guy is "40" now, he is only going to get older and more plodding. Don't think he will cope with either of the two young PBC pressure fighters. So given the money he made from the Wilder rematch he should probably just retire.
Though I would love to see him in against Povetkin (one of peers age-wise) to get a true measure of Ortiz
He would probably be favourite against Chisora, but I doubt the PBC would want to make that fight.
More likely he will be kept on the PBC side of the street.
Most obvious match-up would be Kownacki in first half 2020,
then to be a future "name" opponent for Ruiz Jr. (if AJ wins) in second half 2020,
then either become a journeyman gate-keeper for young prospects or retire.
The guy is "40" now, he is only going to get older and more plodding. Don't think he will cope with either of the two young PBC pressure fighters. So given the money he made from the Wilder rematch he should probably just retire.
Though I would love to see him in against Povetkin (one of peers age-wise) to get a true measure of Ortiz
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RichieKnightmare
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Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Based on his very good display at the weekend he'd beat most HWs outside of the top 5. He's got all the technical skills and boxing IQ in the world.
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Povetkin is my choise
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Honestly it wouldn't surprise me to beat any of those listed. A highly skilled southpaw with good power at heavy like Ortiz gives anyone at heavy lots of trouble. Hopefully one of them steps up and wants to fight him.
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tiny_acres
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Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Yep. Ortiz would be a hard fight for anyone in the top 10
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Onetimeonly
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Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
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Yeah he looked great, until he got poleaxed by one punch man.RichieKnightmare wrote: β27 Nov 2019, 06:08 Based on his very good display at the weekend he'd beat most HWs outside of the top 5. He's got all the technical skills and boxing IQ in the world.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
fight on for sure .
lots of yanks waiting to be schooled by him if they have the guts to get in the ring .
Dont see him beating any of the bigger british H/w tho
lots of yanks waiting to be schooled by him if they have the guts to get in the ring .
Dont see him beating any of the bigger british H/w tho
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
He had only two hard fights: Wilder KOs. He has enough left to fight on and win. I'd like to see him against Povetkin. They are quite similar: both are skilled, methodical, hard-hitting, ageing mofos.
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RichieKnightmare
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Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Mohammed Ali would have got poleaxed by Wilder. His right would knock out a rhino.Finkel wrote: β27 Nov 2019, 09:27Yeah he looked great, until he got poleaxed by one punch man.RichieKnightmare wrote: β27 Nov 2019, 06:08 Based on his very good display at the weekend he'd beat most HWs outside of the top 5. He's got all the technical skills and boxing IQ in the world.
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margaret thatcher
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Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Ya and hopefully he doesn't turn them down again
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Generally speaking, I don't like to see +40 boxers competing, but, Ortiz should be an exception. He has been managed badly for years, for me he is still # 7 HW at least.
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Jeff_lacy_ko
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Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Ortiz best win in bryant jennings. Lets see him fight some up and coming guys... kownacki is a pbc guys lets see that fight
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
I say Ortiz can beat Povetkin, Kownacki, and Chisora.
He can fight on for a bit more. He hasn't taken a tremendous amount of punishment other than his 2 KO losses to Wilder.
He can fight on for a bit more. He hasn't taken a tremendous amount of punishment other than his 2 KO losses to Wilder.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
Audley ?oogiebe wrote: β26 Nov 2019, 17:59You forgot Travis Kaufman!margaret thatcher wrote: β26 Nov 2019, 17:19 I want him to fight Danny Martz, Raz Cojanu, and Chris Hammer![]()
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
These were fights he's already had.
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A lot of Usyk backers in the forum. I'm still on the fence.
Re: Luis Ortiz. Retire or Fight on?
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I get it. That's what we're making a bit of fun on. Audley would fit in nicely!
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YA! And that too! I think we're on to something here!
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Ortiz / Usyk gets my vote!