Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

[Ruthless-RKO]

It's 5 mate.. Hrgovic vs. Molina.

Oh aye well spotted.. i haven't seen much of Hrgovic thus far...

Don't really rate him.

[oogiebe]

Oh aye well spotted.. i haven't seen much of Hrgovic thus far...

Don't really rate him.

Me neither. I used to but then he's been sputtering down the prospect ladder for me.

[Stuarty]

Oh aye well spotted.. i haven't seen much of Hrgovic thus far...

Don't really rate him.

I've only saw him once or twice and he didn't strike me as anything special. I've heard he blows hot and cold.

[Wrists]

Oh and another thing.

If AJ does win and then fights Fury/Wilder then I hope Eddie charges £100 for the PPV and announces he's doing so from a yacht on the Med whilst eating grapes off a honey.

How Eddie's knob tasting this afto?

[margaret thatcher]

Molina is pretty pants, Hrg would always beat him I think

[knockout]

Aye if you're a sadist

Well, if enjoying a good KO is being a sadist, then I'm a card carrying member!

hahaha :) I like a good KO but it’s loses its appeal when it’s a complete mismatch from the get go ! Like watching Kimbo beat up on a crack head . No pleasure

Wach is completely done.... literally a punch bag !

Molina probably the same but Hrgovic has another poster alluded is going to get careless and caught at some point ! He fights in such a fearless manner

Kov v Hunter is great, two small heavyweights who move well. Povetkin the harder puncher but Hunter moves well. Will be interesting as Hunter has been making the big sluggish guys look bad, but Povetkin is much quicker than the Ustinovs and the Bakoles. Tough one to pick . Probably go to points and then it will depend who Eddie wants to win :))

[mickey1975]

I’ve seen an awful lot of pubs advertising this. It’s going to do huge numbers here.

[KiwiRider]

I hope there are a few swing fights on the card, or else I predict a lot of waiting as some of these HW mismatches will finish early.
I'm going to wait for an hour whislt recording it so I can fast forward the dead patches. Otherwise I tend to drink too much

[Ruthless-RKO]

[oogiebe]

The headline you will not see
“Hearn cashes out Joshua for £85 million”

[jamesmcdonnell]

I hope there are a few swing fights on the card, or else I predict a lot of waiting as some of these HW mismatches will finish early.
I'm going to wait for an hour whislt recording it so I can fast forward the dead patches. Otherwise I tend to drink too much

Can you record it?

My platform doesn't allow you to record PPV's.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I really find it hard to call this one, very hard to predict.

I'm going to go with Ruiz KO, but with very little confidence. He's done it once, and he knows that Joshua doesn't like pressure now.

Having said that, it could be that the temple shot concussed Joshua and he never really recovered, and it's not a shot that he will be able to replicate, and Joshua will methodically break him down.

[KiwiRider]

I hope there are a few swing fights on the card, or else I predict a lot of waiting as some of these HW mismatches will finish early.
I'm going to wait for an hour whislt recording it so I can fast forward the dead patches. Otherwise I tend to drink too much

Can you record it?

My platform doesn't allow you to record PPV's.

Yes. Sky box office allows you to record it on the unit, and let's you keep it a week before it automatically deletes. I can record off the telly also, but on a plug in HDD through a USB port.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Can you record it?

My platform doesn't allow you to record PPV's.

Yes. Sky box office allows you to record it on the unit, and let's you keep it a week before it automatically deletes. I can record off the telly also, but on a plug in HDD through a USB port.

Dont think Virgin lets you, mind you, this one is on at doable time, I really struggle to stay up until 4.30 these days, usually end up marmalised by the time the fight comes on.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Have to say, watching it again, Ruiz took some big shots after the first time he was knocked down, he's obviously got a decent chin on him, but he's also pretty hittable.

Joshuas legs simply didn't seem to recover from that first knockdown, Ruiz didn't really land a proper clean punch the remainder of the round after he knocked Joshua down.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Have to say, watching it again, Ruiz took some big shots after the first time he was knocked down, he's obviously got a decent chin on him, but he's also pretty hittable.

Joshuas legs simply didn't seem to recover from that first knockdown, Ruiz didn't really land a proper clean punch the remainder of the round after he knocked Joshua down.

Yeah So what do you reckon?

I really don't know. Can't call it, I'm going to watch some other Ruiz fights I think.

[MightyWarrior]

I really find it hard to call this one, very hard to predict.

I'm going to go with Ruiz KO, but with very little confidence. He's done it once, and he knows that Joshua doesn't like pressure now.

Having said that, it could be that the temple shot concussed Joshua and he never really recovered, and it's not a shot that he will be able to replicate, and Joshua will methodically break him down.

Yes I’ve been going back and forth on this one, the bookies have Joshua favourite, but they’re whistling in the dark a bit surely, because what happened before could easily happen again. We have no idea of the psychological damage done: It could play a part, or could play no part at all.

I’m leaning towards the 2nd part of your post, a perfect shot threw Joshua for the rest of the fight and pretty much sealed his fate there in the third. Plus he caught him with an almighty shot at the end of the third, which doubled down and that was that.

I’m thinking Joshua will avoid that type of concussive blow this time, and possibly quite a few sticky patches, to wear him down late or win on points.

That’s what I really hope happens.. but it’s going to be fraught with danger early on.

[jamesmcdonnell]

I really find it hard to call this one, very hard to predict.

I'm going to go with Ruiz KO, but with very little confidence. He's done it once, and he knows that Joshua doesn't like pressure now.

Having said that, it could be that the temple shot concussed Joshua and he never really recovered, and it's not a shot that he will be able to replicate, and Joshua will methodically break him down.

Yes I’ve been going back and forth on this one, the bookies have Joshua favourite, but they’re whistling in the dark a bit surely, because what happened before could easily happen again. We have no idea of the psychological damage done: It could play a part, or could play no part at all.

I’m leaning towards the 2nd part of your post, a perfect shot threw Joshua for the rest of the fight and pretty much sealed his fate there in the third. Plus he caught him with an almighty shot at the end of the third, which doubled down and that was that.

I’m thinking Joshua will avoid that type of concussive blow this time, and possibly quite a few sticky patches, to wear him down late or win on points.

That’s what I really hope happens.. but it’s going to be fraught with danger early on.

Yes, I'm leaning the same way. After all, Joshua looked in control until he dropped Ruiz, and then he waded in and walked into a close in hook - he thought he had Ruiz at his mercy, and got a bit careless. He can surely do a better job of avoiding that.

The question is, will Ruiz be more aggressive this time around, knowing that he has the power to hurt Joshua, and could that actually count against him.

A lot of intangibles in this one, it's a fight I'm looking forward to seeing.

[margaret thatcher]

I'm not super sure either but I really believe there's been a lot of going overboard on Ruiz

[oogiebe]

I'm not super sure either but I really believe there's been a lot of going overboard on Ruiz

Ruiz has AJ's number. Make no mistake. Doesn't make Ruiz great, just that he'll win the rematch.

[margaret thatcher]

We'll see, not really sure he does have his number though he might

[KiwiRider]

I'm not super sure either but I really believe there's been a lot of going overboard on Ruiz

Ruiz has AJ's number. Make no mistake. Doesn't make Ruiz great, just that he'll win the rematch.

When Joshua and his team have the right time to prepare for an opponent, he does well. When they don't, he doesn't, like Ruiz and Takem. He should have got Takem outta there in 7 or less after the cut. And I think he grossly underestimated Ruiz. I'm fairly confident, like the bookies, that this time AJ will have Ruiz's number, and it will go like we thought it would the first time around.

[samwbr]

Yes. Sky box office allows you to record it on the unit, and let's you keep it a week before it automatically deletes. I can record off the telly also, but on a plug in HDD through a USB port.

Dont think Virgin lets you, mind you, this one is on at doable time, I really struggle to stay up until 4.30 these days, usually end up marmalised by the time the fight comes on.

You cant record PPV here on either platform. Reruns the next day, 3 or 4 times.

[margaret thatcher]

Have to say, watching it again, Ruiz took some big shots after the first time he was knocked down, he's obviously got a decent chin on him, but he's also pretty hittable.

Joshuas legs simply didn't seem to recover from that first knockdown, Ruiz didn't really land a proper clean punch the remainder of the round after he knocked Joshua down.

Ya, that's why I'm not so quick to go along with the stuff that Ruiz had him down start to finish, and just totally was superior. I think he caught AJ on the temple and AJ never really recovered well, hence allowing Ruiz to do what he did in control of the following rounds. If AJ can stay not hurt, I will be surprised if Ruiz wins. Easier said than done for AJ though.

[jamesmcdonnell]

Definitely not a fight I'm betting on, that's for sure.

A mate of mine who posts on here who is something of an expert when it comes to odds, reckons there's value in Joshua points.