Dillian Whyte V Deontay Wilder

[Finkel]

At the end of the day Deontay Wilder turned down a chance to fight for a unified version of the heavyweight title at Wembley Stadium because he felt the numbers were too low when he is clearly the B side.

I suppose so...

[marvelous marv]

Like they would let Joshua anywhere near Wilder. He accepted terms for a fight but they went with Povetkin instead.

[Finkel]

Step 1: Accept Terms
Step 2: Sign the contract
Step 2 never happened

Here's a quick summary by TravisGotti Boxing (Youtube)

June -11 -18

Unbeaten WBC titleholder Deontay Wilder has accepted an offer from unified champion Anthony Joshua's promoter, Eddie Hearn of Matchroom Sport, for a two-fight deal which includes a first meeting this fall in Joshua's home of England. The deal, however, has not yet been signed.

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/d ... -response/

July -13 -18

“I am not fittin’ to sign a contract that don’t have a date, that don’t have a venue. Nah, that’s one-sided. This contract is a straight line, one-sided, and anybody talking ‘bout, ‘Just sign the contract. Just do it. Just sign it,’ hey, you can kiss me where the sun don’t shine, baby, because that’ll never happen.”

https://www.BS.com/deontay-wil ... ed--129930

July -31 -18

“I am going to walk through Povetkin and for Wilder the date and location is here.”

"For the past seven months I have found out what he wants in a contract, what he doesn't want in a contract. He's had 40 training camps, and even if you knock each opponent in a round you have still gone through hundreds of rounds in your camps, miles and miles on the clock with all the running and with the body wear and tear -- he's been a professional since 2009," Joshua said.

"So you have to play the game a bit -- beat me, beat me in a rematch and you are set up to be the king of the heavyweight division. If you believe it, then sign the contract and fight me."

https://www.BS.com/joshua-wild ... ct--130474

August -29 -18

"[Joshua] would like to, but he's not interested in time wasters. We've put a contract together based on all the terms that they agreed, and they still haven't even replied," Hearn said to Sky Sports.

"If you don't like those terms anymore after you've accepted them, fine, let's talk about it and try and make it. They don't even want to talk about it.

https://www.BS.com/hearn-joshu ... er--131333

[marvelous marv]

They sent him a contract with no date and no venue as a delaying tactic. Signing that could mean the fight happens five years later. That's okay Joshua's relevance will be over in a weeks time.

[Finkel]

They sent him a contract with no date and no venue as a delaying tactic. Signing that could mean the fight happens five years later. That's okay Joshua's relevance will be over in a weeks time.

Got a link?
If he had signed, they would have fought.
They sorted a date and venue.
He still wouldn't sign.
These excuses become empty words at that point, and it is back to he did the same thing as Whyte

edit: that's directed at Wilder not you btw

[margaret thatcher]

They sent him a contract with no date and no venue as a delaying tactic. Signing that could mean the fight happens five years later. That's okay Joshua's relevance will be over in a weeks time.

Were date and venue sorted already for the 50 m offer Wilder made in public?

[marvelous marv]

They would not even entertain the offer. It wasnt at that stage of drawing up contracts.

This is standard practice in the industry. Once an offer is accepted a contract follows with a date, venue, and agreed upon purse.

Legal teams look it over and then fighters

[marvelous marv]

Sign it

[margaret thatcher]

Ah, so none of these cats wanna give a date or a venue.

Arent contracts signed for Wilder-Fury 2 without a venue? Ain't no venues anywhere

[marvelous marv]

Feb 22 at the MGM Grand which has been put on hold.

[margaret thatcher]

Was that in the contract when they supposedly signed it a while ago? Cuz in the news it's been saying venue still to be finalized up till recently, and that Arum wanted MGM

[marvelous marv]

Supposedly they left something in the contract that would allow then to move it if they got a crazy monetary offer from say saudi arabia.

[Deleted_Scenes]

Were date and venue sorted already for the 50 m offer Wilder made in public?

No. It also wasn't a $50m purse offer. It was for the full rights to the fight, which would have excluded Matchroom and Sky.

Ah, so none of these cats wanna give a date or a venue.

Arent contracts signed for Wilder-Fury 2 without a venue? Ain't no venues anywhere

Wilder - Fury 1 was signed without a date and venue too. I imagine there's always a rough idea though.

[Enlightened-One]

I've heard the idiotic rumour of 2,500 buys and the other idiotic rumour of 800K to 1 million buys. The most sane one I've seen is just under 200k buys.

Yes the 2500 was posted in boxing scene forum as a joke rebuttal to a joke post earlier in the day that said it was over 750,000 buys.

Taking those as gospel or even quoting such insanity just proves that his facts are a joke

Learn to read!

• The PPV buy-rate is rumoured to be appallingly bad (definitely much less than 100K and supposedly a record low, with some sources claiming it to be as poor as 2.5K buys)

It is a fact that some sources have indeed claimed the Wilder-Ortiz rematch only achieved 2,500 PPV buys (as per Rick Glaser, boxing matchmaker), regardless as to whether this alleged figure ends up being proven wrong or not.

There is nothing dishonest or “insane” about conveying claims provided by multiple media sources, since I clearly stated that the information I articulated was merely based on rumours!

Fox won’t disclose the actual figures if they’re bad and we usually receive indication of the numbers within three days of the events occurring (as per the Wilder-Fury bout), so the PPV buy-rate isn't looking promising for Deontay's rematch against Luis Ortiz.

[oogiebe]

Yes the 2500 was posted in boxing scene forum as a joke rebuttal to a joke post earlier in the day that said it was over 750,000 buys.

Taking those as gospel or even quoting such insanity just proves that his facts are a joke

Learn to read!

• The PPV buy-rate is rumoured to be appallingly bad (definitely much less than 100K and supposedly a record low, with some sources claiming it to be as poor as 2.5K buys)

It is a fact that some sources have indeed claimed the Wilder-Ortiz rematch only achieved 2,500 PPV buys (as per Rick Glaser, boxing matchmaker), regardless as to whether this alleged figure ends up being proven wrong or not.

There is nothing dishonest or “insane” about conveying claims provided by multiple media sources, since I clearly stated that the information I articulated was merely based on rumours!

Fox won’t disclose the actual figures if they’re bad and we usually receive indication of the numbers within three days of the events occurring (as per the Wilder-Fury bout), so the PPV buy-rate isn't looking promising for Deontay's rematch against Luis Ortiz.

What's the hubbub?

[oogiebe]

Yes the 2500 was posted in boxing scene forum as a joke rebuttal to a joke post earlier in the day that said it was over 750,000 buys.

Taking those as gospel or even quoting such insanity just proves that his facts are a joke

Learn to read!

• The PPV buy-rate is rumoured to be appallingly bad (definitely much less than 100K and supposedly a record low, with some sources claiming it to be as poor as 2.5K buys)

It is a fact that some sources have indeed claimed the Wilder-Ortiz rematch only achieved 2,500 PPV buys (as per Rick Glaser, boxing matchmaker), regardless as to whether this alleged figure ends up being proven wrong or not.

There is nothing dishonest or “insane” about conveying claims provided by multiple media sources, since I clearly stated that the information I articulated was merely based on rumours!

Fox won’t disclose the actual figures if they’re bad and we usually receive indication of the numbers within three days of the events occurring (as per the Wilder-Fury bout), so the PPV buy-rate isn't looking promising for Deontay's rematch against Luis Ortiz.

The fact that the numbers are now coming in north of 275 thousand buys confirms the stupidity of regurgitating rumors like these. So yeah...insanity was the the wrong term. You even try to validate the 2,500 by stating that the "buy-rate isn't looking promising." Attention seeking?

[Bandog]

Learn to read!

It is a fact that some sources have indeed claimed the Wilder-Ortiz rematch only achieved 2,500 PPV buys (as per Rick Glaser, boxing matchmaker), regardless as to whether this alleged figure ends up being proven wrong or not.

There is nothing dishonest or “insane” about conveying claims provided by multiple media sources, since I clearly stated that the information I articulated was merely based on rumours!

Fox won’t disclose the actual figures if they’re bad and we usually receive indication of the numbers within three days of the events occurring (as per the Wilder-Fury bout), so the PPV buy-rate isn't looking promising for Deontay's rematch against Luis Ortiz.

The fact that the numbers are now coming in north of 275 thousand buys confirms the stupidity of regurgitating rumors like these. So yeah...insanity was the the wrong term. You even try to validate the 2,500 by stating that the "buy-rate isn't looking promising." Attention seeking?

Yes, attention seeking as always.

[Enlightened-One]

Learn to read!

It is a fact that some sources have indeed claimed the Wilder-Ortiz rematch only achieved 2,500 PPV buys (as per Rick Glaser, boxing matchmaker), regardless as to whether this alleged figure ends up being proven wrong or not.

There is nothing dishonest or “insane” about conveying claims provided by multiple media sources, since I clearly stated that the information I articulated was merely based on rumours!

Fox won’t disclose the actual figures if they’re bad and we usually receive indication of the numbers within three days of the events occurring (as per the Wilder-Fury bout), so the PPV buy-rate isn't looking promising for Deontay's rematch against Luis Ortiz.

The fact that the numbers are now coming in north of 275 thousand buys confirms the stupidity of regurgitating rumors like these. So yeah...insanity was the the wrong term. You even try to validate the 2,500 by stating that the "buy-rate isn't looking promising." Attention seeking?

I can’t believe you have the sheer audacity for lambasting me for conveying a rumour, by stupidly responding with an alternate PPV figure that is also a rumour supplied by anonymous sources! How hypocritical is that?

If you'd actually read the articles properly that reported this new number, you'd already know this, but instead you're an illiterate idiotic hypocrite!

At least I clearly admitted to articulating a rumour, what’s your excuse?

[oogiebe]

The fact that the numbers are now coming in north of 275 thousand buys confirms the stupidity of regurgitating rumors like these. So yeah...insanity was the the wrong term. You even try to validate the 2,500 by stating that the "buy-rate isn't looking promising." Attention seeking?

I can’t believe you have the sheer audacity for lambasting me for conveying a rumour, by stupidly responding with an alternate PPV figure that is also a rumour supplied by anonymous sources! How hypocritical is that?

If you'd actually read the articles properly that reported this new number, you'd already know this, but instead you're an illiterate idiotic hypocrite!

At least I clearly admitted to articulating a rumour, what’s your excuse?

Audacity is a big word for a little kid. You bring this all upon yourself. Stop being a posting 'pudendum' and maybe you might get a bit of respect instead of being the forum moron.

[drunkenpiper36]

I like Wilder by knockout. But Dillian Whyte is a tough and worthy opponent. An upset wouldn't be out of the question. He's a well rounded contender who can box, punch, go the distance and even get off the canvas to win or come back from being behind points. I don't know why but there are some attributes about him that sort of remind me of Razor Ruddock even though they are very different fighters.

[adislav123]

whyte by ultraviolent brutalization. wilder switches into panic mode the moment he eats whyte's first jab.

whyte should walk down wilder and just beat him up. if wilder swings whyte puts his hands up, double cover like duhaupas did.

bodysnatcher would just work a demolition job on the bronze bomber.

you need to be able to punch in combinations and put constant extreme pressure on whyte to beat him. wilder isn't capable of neither.

[Bandog]

whyte by ultraviolent brutalization. wilder switches into panic mode the moment he eats whyte's first jab.

whyte should walk down wilder and just beat him up. if wilder swings whyte puts his hands up, double cover like duhaupas did.

bodysnatcher would just work a demolition job on the bronze bomber.

you need to be able to punch in combinations and put constant extreme pressure on whyte to beat him. wilder isn't capable of neither.

Ultraviolet Brutalization? WTF is that? Dude are you off your meds again? All Wilder has to do now is load up on Mexican meat.

Whyte has the perfect game plan. He ain't playin!

“I’m gonna swing on him,” Whyte said. “I gonna swing on him. I’m gonna swing on him, straight. I’m gonna come out in round one and I’m gonna swing on him. I ain’t gonna go out there and play no game. I’m gonna go out there and I’m gonna swing on him. I’m gonna start swinging on him in round one – straight. I’m gonna start swinging on him from round one.”

[oogiebe]

whyte by ultraviolent brutalization. wilder switches into panic mode the moment he eats whyte's first jab.

whyte should walk down wilder and just beat him up. if wilder swings whyte puts his hands up, double cover like duhaupas did.

bodysnatcher would just work a demolition job on the bronze bomber.

you need to be able to punch in combinations and put constant extreme pressure on whyte to beat him. wilder isn't capable of neither.

Ultraviolet Brutalization? WTF is that? Dude are you off your meds again? All Wilder has to do now is load up on Mexican meat.

Whyte has the perfect game plan. He ain't playin!

“I’m gonna swing on him,” Whyte said. “I gonna swing on him. I’m gonna swing on him, straight. I’m gonna come out in round one and I’m gonna swing on him. I ain’t gonna go out there and play no game. I’m gonna go out there and I’m gonna swing on him. I’m gonna start swinging on him in round one – straight. I’m gonna start swinging on him from round one.”

...and then *BAM*...lights out. Whyte would get blathered.

[Boxtune]

We just saw Dyllne " he is nothing" whyte