Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 07 Dec 2019, 13:05

Ruiz - Decision
4
3%
Ruiz - T/KO
66
53%
DRAW
2
2%
Joshua - T/KO
36
29%
Joshua - Decision
17
14%
 
Total votes: 125

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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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I like Josh on pts, but I'm laying off. He might stop him.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Joshua on points, not much doubt in my mind. Small chance of late stoppage. As the fight unfolds folks won’t be able to believe how they gave Ruiz a chance. Just watch.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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The problem for me is that once hurt it takes Joshua a few rounds to recover, as we saw against Whyte and Wlad. I think the difference is Ruiz really went at him and he knows he can hurt him this time. I think what happened in the first fight could easily happen again and that's what I'm leaning towards, although I hope I'm wrong.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Interesting Sánchez thinks Ruiz can win, IF he trains right, but by decision “he ain’t knocking Joshua out again..”

Annoying the interviewer is more interested in hearing his own voice than Sanchez :roll:
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Matt W wrote: 29 Nov 2019, 07:33 The problem for me is that once hurt it takes Joshua a few rounds to recover, as we saw against Whyte and Wlad. I think the difference is Ruiz really went at him and he knows he can hurt him this time. I think what happened in the first fight could easily happen again and that's what I'm leaning towards, although I hope I'm wrong.
Yes, agreed, his powers of recovery don't seem to be great, and he hasn't got a fantastic chin either. I wonder though if slimming down might help him, he did look awfully tired after he got dropped, I wonder if part of his problem is that when he gets hurt, his engine lets him down.

If he can get through 6 rounds without being hurt, he has a good chance, but Ruiz does seem to have the better stamina of the two.

I can see just about every outcome except Ruiz on points.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Shhhh wrote: 29 Nov 2019, 13:56
MightyWarrior wrote: 29 Nov 2019, 10:45 Interesting Sánchez thinks Ruiz can win, IF he trains right, but by decision “he ain’t knocking Joshua out again..”

Annoying the interviewer is more interested in hearing his own voice than Sanchez :roll:
So Sanchez says Ruiz can not knock Joshua out even though he ruined him with a Decent shot but hardly a perfect shot and then even though Ruiz couldn’t seem to land a good shot again all fight still battered joshua. this makes no sense
Ruiz hit him with 6 shots before putting him down, they were pretty good shots too.,
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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There will be no ring girls.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Ruiz will win again. He has the mental edge and the physical hardness. Ruiz knows he will win, whereas Joshua hopes he will.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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WildWaylon wrote: 30 Nov 2019, 11:24 Ruiz will win again. He has the mental edge and the physical hardness. Ruiz knows he will win, whereas Joshua hopes he will.
That’s the big difference between them. Ruiz said to his face he was gonna end his career.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Nov 2019, 09:43 There will be no ring girls.
Not really earth shattering news to be fair
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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ewenhay wrote: 30 Nov 2019, 13:01
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Nov 2019, 09:43 There will be no ring girls.
Not really earth shattering news to be fair
It’s official now ..

Did they use them for WBSS? I think so. Those girls were tight long dresses though. Matchroom girls where bikini Type tops.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 30 Nov 2019, 13:06
ewenhay wrote: 30 Nov 2019, 13:01

Not really earth shattering news to be fair
It’s official now ..

Did they use them for WBSS? I think so. Those girls were tight long dresses though. Matchroom girls where bikini Type tops.
I'm surprised anyone needed this to be made official. There was a 0% chance they would allow ring card girls
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2019, 15:13
I was doubting my certainty in Ruiz winning again but having watched that, I'm 100% sure he'll take out AJ again. Can't put my finger on it although the sheer amount of shite coming out of AJ's mouth at times probably helped. He sounded like he was trying to convince himself more than anyone else, like he doesn't believe he can do it.

Watch AJ smash him in one now :doh:
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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jtourettes wrote: 30 Nov 2019, 15:53
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 29 Nov 2019, 15:13
I was doubting my certainty in Ruiz winning again but having watched that, I'm 100% sure he'll take out AJ again. Can't put my finger on it although the sheer amount of shite coming out of AJ's mouth at times probably helped. He sounded like he was trying to convince himself more than anyone else, like he doesn't believe he can do it.

Watch AJ smash him in one now :doh:
Always easy to read too much into this, but i agree Ruiz is way more relaxed in this interview.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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I am very pleased to see you lads getting DAZN in the UK via VPN :TU:

I am happy to part with my 20 quid for box office - but some of these cards have forced me to get dazn!
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Keep seeing conflicting accounts of when Joshua Ruiz ring walk will be, some say as early as 830. I’m at the city Utd match on Saturday so to get home for 830 would be pushing it. Anybody know for definite ?
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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This isn't a case of the winner rematching with newfound confidence after being afraid the first time, and that might be Ruiz's undoing. He'll do what he's always done and take the fight to Joshua. So unless he gets careless and walks onto another big shot — and he might, I think the ball's clearly in AJ's psychological court this time.

His ego might be his downfall, because he has the attributes to outbox Ruiz to a boring decision. Ruiz by KO or Joshua on points are most likely for me, because I expect AJ to be that little bit too cautious to finish the job if he hurts Ruiz again. Else he's not and it turns into a repeat. Or maybe Ruiz has eaten a few too many Snickers...

I've picked Ruiz by KO, but AJ has every chance to outbox him if he's disciplined throughout.

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By the by, does AJ look bigger than ever to anyone else? After he slimmed down a fair bit, too. We'll see what the scales reckon. Could be an optical illusion that his arms look bigger because he's lost size elsewhere...
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 01 Dec 2019, 18:50 Keep seeing conflicting accounts of when Joshua Ruiz ring walk will be, some say as early as 830. I’m at the city Utd match on Saturday so to get home for 830 would be pushing it. Anybody know for definite ?
9 for the first bell is what Eddie keeps saying in interviews. Annoying as at a gig so definitely going to miss it.
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mfc_se15 wrote: 01 Dec 2019, 19:10
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 01 Dec 2019, 18:50 Keep seeing conflicting accounts of when Joshua Ruiz ring walk will be, some say as early as 830. I’m at the city Utd match on Saturday so to get home for 830 would be pushing it. Anybody know for definite ?
9 for the first bell is what Eddie keeps saying in interviews. Annoying as at a gig so definitely going to miss it.
Thanks pal
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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I picked something up from the gloves are off - I might be over analysing but Joshua said something about he doesn't want to fight like a bantamweight and go to a decision

^ I am not sure I believe this, I think for the last 3 months everyone in his camp has drilled into him that this fight needs to go 36 minutes
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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CaptainSpacerod wrote: 01 Dec 2019, 18:50 Keep seeing conflicting accounts of when Joshua Ruiz ring walk will be, some say as early as 830. I’m at the city Utd match on Saturday so to get home for 830 would be pushing it. Anybody know for definite ?
And Sky Sports put an article up themselves saying ring walks are 8:30pm.. we’ll have long ring walks though, national anthems. I’m guessing first bell defo just after 9pm. Will be midnight in Saudi.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Dec 2019, 20:59
CaptainSpacerod wrote: 01 Dec 2019, 18:50 Keep seeing conflicting accounts of when Joshua Ruiz ring walk will be, some say as early as 830. I’m at the city Utd match on Saturday so to get home for 830 would be pushing it. Anybody know for definite ?
And Sky Sports put an article up themselves saying ring walks are 8:30pm.. we’ll have long ring walks though, national anthems. I’m guessing first bell defo just after 9pm. Will be midnight in Saudi.
DAZN schedule has the undercard starting at 4pm UK time. Main fight at 8:45pm (very specific never seen that before)
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kbackup408 wrote: 01 Dec 2019, 21:01
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Dec 2019, 20:59

And Sky Sports put an article up themselves saying ring walks are 8:30pm.. we’ll have long ring walks though, national anthems. I’m guessing first bell defo just after 9pm. Will be midnight in Saudi.
DAZN schedule has the undercard starting at 4pm UK time. Main fight at 8:45pm (very specific never seen that before)
They wanna make sure no one misses it. Because it’s in the Middle East. People are gna be very unsure about the timings.
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