Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 07 Dec 2019, 13:05

Ruiz - Decision
4
3%
Ruiz - T/KO
66
53%
DRAW
2
2%
Joshua - T/KO
36
29%
Joshua - Decision
17
14%
 
Total votes: 125

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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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danconnollyeire wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 11:48 I can see this being an AJ stoppage now if Ruiz can't move too well. AJ busts his face up from long range, swollen eyes etc, ref stops it after 8
Cue the sky commentary team to be creaming their pants if AJ stops Ruiz. Their BS will be nauseating
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Since Eddie is a director of the Professional Darts Corporation, maybe he’s promised fat Andy a place at Ally Pally if things don’t go his way tomorrow.

Anyway, I’m rooting for AJ although I realise this goes against the general feeling here.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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dr_devious wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 13:23
danconnollyeire wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 11:48 I can see this being an AJ stoppage now if Ruiz can't move too well. AJ busts his face up from long range, swollen eyes etc, ref stops it after 8
Cue the sky commentary team to be creaming their pants if AJ stops Ruiz. Their BS will be nauseating
Yeah I hope he does win and against a game Ruiz but can’t see him being a punch bag dunno though
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dr_devious wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 13:23
danconnollyeire wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 11:48 I can see this being an AJ stoppage now if Ruiz can't move too well. AJ busts his face up from long range, swollen eyes etc, ref stops it after 8
Cue the sky commentary team to be creaming their pants if AJ stops Ruiz. Their BS will be nauseating
2x champ !!! Never giving up! F@ck the haters. Just like Len did :yay:
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milpool wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 13:41 Since Eddie is a director of the Professional Darts Corporation, maybe he’s promised fat Andy a place at Ally Pally if things don’t go his way tomorrow.

Anyway, I’m rooting for AJ although I realise this goes against the general feeling here.
Ruiz KOing The Golden Child in a stunning upset was great for boxing.
Him winning again and being the man isn't.
I@m rooting for AJ :box:
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skanksta wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 14:07
milpool wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 13:41 Since Eddie is a director of the Professional Darts Corporation, maybe he’s promised fat Andy a place at Ally Pally if things don’t go his way tomorrow.

Anyway, I’m rooting for AJ although I realise this goes against the general feeling here.
Ruiz KOing The Golden Child in a stunning upset was great for boxing.
Him winning again and being the man isn't.
I@m rooting for AJ :box:
Agree with this. It livened up the scene and also created a very interesting fight. Pppl got to see AJ KO's and Hearn's boy lose to satisfy themselves too. But the division is healthier with AJ getting revenge on obescne Andy
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samwbr wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 11:48
kbackup408 wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 11:35 Any truth to the ring being bigger tomorrow?

Everything seems to be aligning towards an AJ points win, the referee is also a big fan of the holding and grabbing style !
22ft apparently against 16ft last time out.
I know most people will say this is just digging for sand in a desert but I genuinely think having these small advantages all tally up and will help AJ on the night
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Riddick Blowe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 11:42
kbackup408 wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 11:35
Everything seems to be aligning towards an AJ points win, the referee is also a big fan of the holding and grabbing style !
I hope so, I’ve bet hard on it. I’m trying to figure out if the extra weight is going to make him the ‘immovable object’ or just a fat, low cardio slob in the eyes of AJ.

I’m tending towards the former. I can see Joshua playing it safe at long range whatever happens, but if Ruiz can’t close the distance AJ won’t be forced into exchanges too often which means it may be more likely to be a drab 12 round affair.

On the other hand you’ve got to fancy Ruiz to go for it at some point, in which case he’ll use up energy and make it more likely he’s stopped late.
At this point mate I am betting on AJ to show some discipline. He looks mentally switched on and after todays weigh in the 36 minute saudi bank job looks like a real possibility :OhYes:
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Ricky wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 13:10 Heavier the better for Andy, AJ is for a pasting.
You really think so ?
You doubling down ?
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Ring is same size as last time.
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oogiebe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 14:51 Ring is same size as last time.
How big is it
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 14:51
oogiebe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 14:51 Ring is same size as last time.
How big is it
22x22
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thx homeslice
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 14:56 thx homeslice
:lol:
Dork.
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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oogiebe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 14:55
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 14:51

How big is it
22x22
There was an interview with the guy who built it on 5 Live's podcast earlier in the week and I'm pretty sure he said it was bigger than last time? Could just be that it had to be made bigger because it is the ring from York Hall though, and was definitely 16x16 before he put the extensions in. I'm probably confusing the two.
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MarkMcBurney wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 15:01
oogiebe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 14:55

22x22
There was an interview with the guy who built it on 5 Live's podcast earlier in the week and I'm pretty sure he said it was bigger than last time? Could just be that it had to be made bigger because it is the ring from York Hall though, and was definitely 16x16 before he put the extensions in. I'm probably confusing the two.
What he said was that it was 16x16 for the open workouts and 22x22 for the fight. He did not mention the last fight as he was not involved in the ring set up. It was Mike Goodall
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Boxing News made the good point that only Ali and Holyfield ever built on surprise victories to become established champions. I’m thinking Ruiz might be following in the footsteps of not just Buster Douglas, but also Hasim Rahman. I recall him having car accidents and looking a shadow of his former self, boxing in an oddly 1900’s robotic style before being dispatched easily by Lennox Lewis in their rematch. Ruiz might do a bit better than that, but unless Joshua walks onto one early, I’d imagine Ruiz will fall apart in the late rounds.
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I made a thread last time around about something not being right with Joshua on the night .

I think he'll box more this time around if Ruiz will let him and think he'll get the win this time .

Fully expect to be completely wrong about it all and ready to be called everything under the sun :doh:
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polecateddy wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 15:09 Boxing News made the good point that only Ali and Holyfield ever built on surprise victories to become established champions. I’m thinking Ruiz might be following in the footsteps of not just Buster Douglas, but also Hasim Rahman. I recall him having car accidents and looking a shadow of his former self, boxing in an oddly 1900’s robotic style before being dispatched easily by Lennox Lewis in their rematch. Ruiz might do a bit better than that, but unless Joshua walks onto one early, I’d imagine Ruiz will fall apart in the late rounds.
I thought there was no way AJ could win though mate
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I must admit I was a bit taken in by the photos of Ruiz looking very trim and focused. I guess that was all ‘fake news’ as Donald Trump likes to say. Unless Joshua is shot I don’t think he should be losing this now.
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tobyh5 wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 15:03
MarkMcBurney wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 15:01
There was an interview with the guy who built it on 5 Live's podcast earlier in the week and I'm pretty sure he said it was bigger than last time? Could just be that it had to be made bigger because it is the ring from York Hall though, and was definitely 16x16 before he put the extensions in. I'm probably confusing the two.
What he said was that it was 16x16 for the open workouts and 22x22 for the fight. He did not mention the last fight as he was not involved in the ring set up. It was Mike Goodall
Ah thanks for clearing up. Was a very interesting interview. Do you know if, due to the size of venue, it was set up as 16x16 when in situ at York Hall too?
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milpool wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 13:41 Since Eddie is a director of the Professional Darts Corporation, maybe he’s promised fat Andy a place at Ally Pally if things don’t go his way tomorrow.
Wow, I never realised it until you mentioned it. Andy does have the perfect physique for a professional darts player!
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MarkMcBurney wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 15:33
tobyh5 wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 15:03

What he said was that it was 16x16 for the open workouts and 22x22 for the fight. He did not mention the last fight as he was not involved in the ring set up. It was Mike Goodall
Ah thanks for clearing up. Was a very interesting interview. Do you know if, due to the size of venue, it was set up as 16x16 when in situ at York Hall too?
tbh not a clue bud but it never looked big in there. I am sure some guys here with no regulations and minimum ring sizes allowed. I am not sure but think 16 may be allowed as the minimum
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Ezzard wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 11:44 Can AJ move around for 12 rounds without getting exhausted? I guess this is what he's trained for.
He did it against Parker well , but Ruiz will probably put it on him more aggressively
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Re: Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua II - 7 December 2019

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Shhhh wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:10 If Joshua wins will Adam smith orgasm
Pity the extra PPV money doesn't include a "Commentary Off" feature.
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