Has Ruiz lost the fight at the scale?

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gilgamesh wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 16:55
smiling assassin wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 16:48 Just my 2 cents worth.
Ruiz knows full well he ain't winning if it goes to the judges. He's stopped him once and that's exactly what he's going out there to do this time. Can't see this going past 6,either way
I can. Might not, but I can see it going past 6, and I have picked Joshua to win by decision. That being said a KO either way wouldn't be too terribly shocking either.
i was backing Ruiz late before the weigh in. After seeing what he weighed in I believe he's gonna put it on him from the get go and someone will go. Just can't decide who :lol:
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smiling assassin wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:10
gilgamesh wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 16:55

I can. Might not, but I can see it going past 6, and I have picked Joshua to win by decision. That being said a KO either way wouldn't be too terribly shocking either.
i was backing Ruiz late before the weigh in. After seeing what he weighed in I believe he's gonna put it on him from the get go and someone will go. Just can't decide who :lol:
Ruiz ain't really the "put it on him from the get go" type.
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Noxy wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 10:39 Could it be a ploy and he had weights in his shorts ...
Dya know what mate, i think you could be right. The hat the t shirt the jeans,probably had keys mobile phone and allsorts in them jeans,then they think he is over weight. When he was on the pads in the media workout he didnt look slow to me.
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thechump wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:20
Noxy wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 10:39 Could it be a ploy and he had weights in his shorts ...
Dya know what mate, i think you could be right. The hat the t shirt the jeans,probably had keys mobile phone and allsorts in them jeans,then they think he is over weight. When he was on the pads in the media workout he didnt look slow to me.
Ruiz didn't look any different to me than in June,it's mind games to make Joshua go straight in for the ko
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bigjack wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:27
thechump wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:20

Dya know what mate, i think you could be right. The hat the t shirt the jeans,probably had keys mobile phone and allsorts in them jeans,then they think he is over weight. When he was on the pads in the media workout he didnt look slow to me.
Ruiz didn't look any different to me than in June,it's mind games to make Joshua go straight in for the ko
Didn't he have a full tank top on. 15 extra pounds on someone already that fat won't look massive

So is AJ mentally shot or too confident now lol
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:28
bigjack wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:27

Ruiz didn't look any different to me than in June,it's mind games to make Joshua go straight in for the ko
Didn't he have a full tank top on. 15 extra pounds on someone already that fat won't look massive

So is AJ mentally shot or too confident now lol
Dunno,did he ?
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Ya bruh. Not sure why it's hard for people to believe the perpetually fat blob who has been 300 before just gained some more weight. Weighted sombereros :lol:

I don't get the mind games either. One minute AJ is said to be mentally shot, next thing they are mind gaming more confidence into him? Doesn't that help a guy with no confidence lol
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gilgamesh wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:17
smiling assassin wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:10

i was backing Ruiz late before the weigh in. After seeing what he weighed in I believe he's gonna put it on him from the get go and someone will go. Just can't decide who :lol:
Ruiz ain't really the "put it on him from the get go" type.
I agree with you I just think this fight is different. Ruiz has got a massive mental advantage going into this and I don't think he will let AJ settle into his game plan for his confidence to grow. I'm probably wrong and it will go 12 I just don't see it
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'The fat blob' as people are calling him knocked the shite out of Joshua last time,obviously very fit and with a very good chin,will take a lot of beating if he is serious tomorrow.
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bigjack wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:33 'The fat blob' as people are calling him knocked the shite out of Joshua last time,obviously very fit and with a very good chin,will take a lot of beating if he is serious tomorrow.
He is indisputably a fat blob, whether he KO'd Josh or not. He is clearly obese, not sure why people think weighted sombreros are more likely than big boy gaining some more weight. He used to be 300+
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:34
bigjack wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:33 'The fat blob' as people are calling him knocked the shite out of Joshua last time,obviously very fit and with a very good chin,will take a lot of beating if he is serious tomorrow.
He is indisputably a fat blob, whether he KO'd Josh or not. He is clearly obese, not sure why people think weighted sombreros are more likely than big boy gaining some more weight. He used to be 300+
and a very good fighter
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Ya, he's good. But still someone who has obese his whole career. Not sure why people treat a guy like that gaining weight as fake news
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:36 Ya, he's good. But still someone who has obese his whole career. Not sure why people treat a guy like that gaining weight as fake news
I'm not sure I've completely picked this up correctly as you've only posted it about 45 times over multiple threads today but are you suggesting to us that Ruiz might be a tad on the fat side?
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:36 Ya, he's good. But still someone who has obese his whole career. Not sure why people treat a guy like that gaining weight as fake news
Someone said it's fake news??? LOLOLOL!!!! He looked massive at the weigh-in. Maybe he needed to shite! :maybe:
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ewenhay wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:38
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:36 Ya, he's good. But still someone who has obese his whole career. Not sure why people treat a guy like that gaining weight as fake news
I'm not sure I've completely picked this up correctly as you've only posted it about 45 times over multiple threads today but are you suggesting to us that Ruiz might be a tad on the fat side?
Lol, it's the big news of the day Ewey, it's what everyone is talking about.

Not just fat, big boy is FAAAAT
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oogiebe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:38
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:36 Ya, he's good. But still someone who has obese his whole career. Not sure why people treat a guy like that gaining weight as fake news
Someone said it's fake news??? LOLOLOL!!!! He looked massive at the weigh-in. Maybe he needed to shite! :maybe:
Lol some people are seriously saying he's no heavier, and that it's weighted sombreros and weights in his pockets etc. Why is it so hard to believe that a guy known to be very overweight gained some weight?
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:39
oogiebe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:38

Someone said it's fake news??? LOLOLOL!!!! He looked massive at the weigh-in. Maybe he needed to shite! :maybe:
Lol some people are seriously saying he's no heavier, and that it's weighted sombreros and weights in his pockets etc. Why is it so hard to believe that a guy known to be very overweight gained some weight?
I'm saying if he is heavier then I can't see much difference than in June.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:39
oogiebe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:38

Someone said it's fake news??? LOLOLOL!!!! He looked massive at the weigh-in. Maybe he needed to shite! :maybe:
Lol some people are seriously saying he's no heavier, and that it's weighted sombreros and weights in his pockets etc. Why is it so hard to believe that a guy known to be very overweight gained some weight?
The only thing surprising to me is the extent of the weight he must've gained after the first fight. I still pick him to win. But...I THINK I'm rooting for AJ.
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Well, he was already 268, another 15 pounds on that type of body ain't gonna make him look way bigger
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bigjack wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:42
margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:39

Lol some people are seriously saying he's no heavier, and that it's weighted sombreros and weights in his pockets etc. Why is it so hard to believe that a guy known to be very overweight gained some weight?
I'm saying if he is heavier then I can't see much difference than in June.
It's only around 10% heavier. Hard to tell on a guy who was already quite plump, don't ya think?
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oogiebe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:44
bigjack wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:42

I'm saying if he is heavier then I can't see much difference than in June.
It's only around 10% heavier. Hard to tell on a guy who was already quite plump, don't ya think?
That's what i'm saying,if he doesn't look much different,will the extra weight make much difference ?
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Gaining 15 pounds I'd be wondering about whether he's become indulgent and complacent, as much as what he can do physically
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bigjack wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:46
oogiebe wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:44
It's only around 10% heavier. Hard to tell on a guy who was already quite plump, don't ya think?
That's what i'm saying,if he doesn't look much different,will the extra weight make much difference ?
Theoretcially it can slow him just enough to close the gap with AJ's speed. but I doubt it. I guess if the fight goes into the late rounds it'll have an effect.
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Paea Wolfgramm was around the same height and 309 pounds. So it could be worse?! It wouldn’t surprise me if Ruiz has peaked and will now be a gatekeeper for many prospects to come.
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It could be worse, of course. Anyone remember Wilder opponent Dustin Nichols :OhYes:
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