Has Ruiz lost the fight at the scale?

[oogiebe]

It could be worse, of course. Anyone remember Wilder opponent Dustin Nichols

That guy was closer to 400 lbs. Geez!

[margaret thatcher]

[stu 27]

I just have a feeling Ruiz has weighed in at that weight on purpose
Wether it’s because of his training camp or he has put ankle weights on under his tracky bottoms
If we’re all surmising about it I bet AJs camp are too,and Ruiz ain’t worrying a bean about Joshua’s weight

[oogiebe]

Wilder hit the canvass in that fight.

[skanksta]

Ruiz ain't really the "put it on him from the get go" type.

I agree with you I just think this fight is different. Ruiz has got a massive mental advantage going into this and I don't think he will let AJ settle into his game plan for his confidence to grow. I'm probably wrong and it will go 12 I just don't see it

I don’t agree.
Last time Ruiz has huge advantages. AJ was believing his own hype, looking past him. He’d become so into bodybuilding, he simply didn’t believe a guy that looked like Ruiz could beat him. There was no Fear Factor.

And Ruiz ?
He had nothing to lose. Now he has everything to lose.

The intangibles are with AJ this time.

[bigped]

Yeah but Ruiz is still a big underdog and is expected to lose tomorrow, he was never expected to win the first time around , he’s already won the lottery for me and he’s free rolling now, aj loses he’s finished , Ruiz loses plenty big fights out there for him, pressure on aj for me

[smiling assassin]

I agree with you I just think this fight is different. Ruiz has got a massive mental advantage going into this and I don't think he will let AJ settle into his game plan for his confidence to grow. I'm probably wrong and it will go 12 I just don't see it

I don’t agree.
Last time Ruiz has huge advantages. AJ was believing his own hype, looking past him. He’d become so into bodybuilding, he simply didn’t believe a guy that looked like Ruiz could beat him. There was no Fear Factor.

And Ruiz ?
He had nothing to lose. Now he has everything to lose.

The intangibles are with AJ this time.

Ruiz made Joshua jack in the first fight. That will be a massive mental factor for Joshua to overcome

[lillywhite14]

Paea Wolfgramm was around the same height and 309 pounds. So it could be worse?! It wouldn’t surprise me if Ruiz has peaked and will now be a gatekeeper for many prospects to come.

To be honest, if Ruiz loses convincingly tomorrow, why would he want to continue as a gatekeeper? Isn’t he landing a guaranteed $15m for the fight? To go along with the first fight making him a millionaire. The man can quite happily pack it all in, first Mexican heavyweight champ, enough money to live ten lives over comfortably.

His ideal result tomorrow is a hotly disputed, razor thin decision loss, in an entertaining up and down fight. Imagine the extra moolah that would be on the table for the rubber match!

[margaret thatcher]

They might offer him some biggish money to fight Wilder

[kbackup408]

Paea Wolfgramm was around the same height and 309 pounds. So it could be worse?! It wouldn’t surprise me if Ruiz has peaked and will now be a gatekeeper for many prospects to come.

To be honest, if Ruiz loses convincingly tomorrow, why would he want to continue as a gatekeeper? Isn’t he landing a guaranteed $15m for the fight? To go along with the first fight making him a millionaire. The man can quite happily pack it all in, first Mexican heavyweight champ, enough money to live ten lives over comfortably.

His ideal result tomorrow is a hotly disputed, razor thin decision loss, in an entertaining up and down fight. Imagine the extra moolah that would be on the table for the rubber match!

Ruiz has probably ran through a lot of money. Kid in a candy store with the sort of wild things he is buying. He is lucky his dad is keeping his head screwed on.

[margaret thatcher]

Doesn't he have loads of kids

[kbackup408]

Doesn't he have loads of kids

aye a few pal, 5.

[margaret thatcher]

5 by 30, prob shoot out a few more too

[kbackup408]

5 by 30, prob shoot out a few more too

the more the merrier, viva la mexico !

[Tuan_Jim]

Paea Wolfgramm was around the same height and 309 pounds. So it could be worse?! It wouldn’t surprise me if Ruiz has peaked and will now be a gatekeeper for many prospects to come.

To be honest, if Ruiz loses convincingly tomorrow, why would he want to continue as a gatekeeper? Isn’t he landing a guaranteed $15m for the fight? To go along with the first fight making him a millionaire. The man can quite happily pack it all in, first Mexican heavyweight champ, enough money to live ten lives over comfortably.

His ideal result tomorrow is a hotly disputed, razor thin decision loss, in an entertaining up and down fight. Imagine the extra moolah that would be on the table for the rubber match!

He made a remark after the weigh in along the lines of "I've achieved all my dreams" -- and then quickly added that he wanted it to continue, as if he thought he better say that. I think mentally he's climbed his particular mountain and may not have the same edge tomorrow night. It looks and sounds as if he's already retired.

[polecateddy]

He wouldn't be alone - Brewster, Saunders, Rahman, and probably others. None of them weighed 283 pounds but as soon as they hit the jackpot, their edge and drive evaporated almost overnight. But for Ruiz, I suppose the flip side is maybe this late career Joshua is half eyeing retirement as well, and has lost his edge and desire too! Still that weight is stupidly high.

[Terminator666]

I think so- why else would he come into the second fight fatter than the first one and fattest ever

[margaret thatcher]

I think so- why else would he come into the second fight fatter than the first one and fattest ever

Mind games so they say

[dr_devious]

The intangibles are with AJ this time.

Some of the main tangibles aren't though e.g. boxing smarts and punch resistance

[Kronkpride]

Ruiz has definitely not lost the fight at the scale. Him coming in heavier is a very tiny factor. People do not realize this for the most part but fat fighters do not burn fuel like muscled up fighters do. Andy will have no issues with having enough in the tank to stay steady as long as the fight goes. The only way weight could have effected him negatively is if he would have lost too much weight coming into the 2nd fight. Andy was wise to maintain even if it is showing up as a slight gain now.

AJ's weight loss is by far the biggest change in this fight. His potential to have good stamina throughout the fight is way up with 10 pounds less muscle to fuel. But it might also reduce his already questionable punch resistance. His tank being a little larger will only come into play if he can keep himself from getting hurt.

I think AJ needs a near miracle performance to pull this out. Ruiz has all his numbers. AJ is not going to be fit enough mentally to box a master class and avoid Ruiz putting him into highly stressful situations. The only thing Ruiz weight will do is add to the smashing AJ takes after losing again. FAT GUY GOT FATTER AND STILL KICKED AJ'S ARSE!

[TheGman]

Anyway i hope and prey Ruiz splats AJ,sick of the boring b@stard and the shyte that spews out of his mouth like he is Gandhi or Dalai Lama

[TheGman]

'The fat blob' as people are calling him knocked the shite out of Joshua last time,obviously very fit and with a very good chin,will take a lot of beating if he is serious tomorrow.

He is indisputably a fat blob, whether he KO'd Josh or not. He is clearly obese, not sure why people think weighted sombreros are more likely than big boy gaining some more weight. He used to be 300+

Muscles dont win fights skills do and Ruiz has more skill in his left arm than AJ has in his entire 6ft 6 body

[margaret thatcher]

Why bother to listen to him talk then. I sure as hell don't

I'd rather than morbidly obesce lazy guy who can't stop stuffing himself doesn't win again. He had his moment and spiced the division up for a bit, but I still want Josh vs Wilder or Fury for all the marbles

[margaret thatcher]

He is indisputably a fat blob, whether he KO'd Josh or not. He is clearly obese, not sure why people think weighted sombreros are more likely than big boy gaining some more weight. He used to be 300+

Muscles dont win fights skills do and Ruiz has more skill in his left arm than AJ has in his entire 6ft 6 body

Sure, he's still a fat blob, and the point was thait shouldn't be surprising that a blob gained some weight. He could be the most skilled boxer ever. He is still a vastly overweight individual and certainly has the round shape of a big tubby blob. But people are trying to convince themselves that it's just his strategically weighted sombrero

And he's not THAT skilled btw. The loss to Parker still happened the 1 other time he fought a good opponent, along with a good number of other showing that weren't very hot. He couldn't get his head out of the way of Tor Hamers punches and lost multiple rounds to way past it KJ. Liakhovich's corpse gave him a tough fight. He's become overrated if anything and has stuffed himself even fatter for the rematch.

Btw, was reading an older magazine previewing Rahman-Lewis 2, was striking how many were convinced Rahman had his number and was doing it again and was here to stay at the top. America owns the HW division again!! I remember Nigel Collins was editing The Ring at the time and was convinced of it

[Onetimeonly]

He looks slow to me, but being a fat slob was a great career decision. If he was in shape he'd be a 19-7 cruiser waiting tables at night.