Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Yes
11
24%
Undecided
6
13%
No
29
63%
 
Total votes: 46

JxhDel.
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by JxhDel. »

margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:32
JxhDel. wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:31

Ruiz has some rare genetics, maybe it is due to him switching diet despite eating a lot. Sure he looks trimmed, though.
Did you see him with no shirt on?
Look at his latest photos.
Tony1244
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by Tony1244 »

I switch my vote from undecided to yes.
gilgamesh
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by gilgamesh »

Tony1244 wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:36 I switch my vote from undecided to yes.
I think he's gonna be more like a Rahman than a Douglas. He'll only have the one marquee win to hang his hat on, but he may hang around a while and lose to several big names instead of just one more big fight, and gone.
margaret thatcher
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by margaret thatcher »

Being with PBC gives him a built in post-AJ career whether he wins or not. As long as he doesn't go totally off the rails and stop fighting at least

He could fight Wilder, have an all fatty fight vs Kownacki, and a lot more.
Onetimeonly
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by Onetimeonly »

No, Douglas would smash him.
KiwiRider
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by KiwiRider »

Seamus wrote: 23 Jul 2019, 17:04 Fat guys with quick hands, power and solid chins have been around the HW division for awhile. I don't see Ruiz having a very long title reign due to his weight problems. I think the verdict is still out on whether AJ has the desire he once had. If he's lost it, then he was an accident waiting to happen and Ruiz happened to be in the right place at the right time.
It takes a lot of dedication to lose all the muscle bulk he has. It's nowhere as easy as losing fat, he cut muscle bulk. That alone shows some desire to get into a shape he (and his team) believe he needs to be in to win. Also there has been a lot of sparring, you don't go through all that if you really don't want to improve
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by KiwiRider »

margaret thatcher wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 17:44 Being with PBC gives him a built in post-AJ career whether he wins or not. As long as he doesn't go totally off the rails and stop fighting at least

He could fight Wilder, have an all fatty fight vs Kownacki, and a lot more.
:TU: Good point. It's all there for him even in defeat. Just depends on what he wants to do. He has a nice retirement egg from this fight already.
Rgoodwin
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by Rgoodwin »

No. That coming in heavy is a mind game.
Enlightened-One
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by Enlightened-One »

AJ has lost 10lbs, and in reality, Ruiz Jr. has only really gained 10lbs (because the Mexican’s clothes and Sombrero must weigh at least 5lbs).

So we’re basically left with two questions:

• Now that AJ has shifted some muscle, will it adversely affect his punching power and punch resistance?

• Now that Ruiz Jr. might have gained some fat, will it adversely affect his footwork and cardio?

As long as an individual trains correctly, it’s fairly obvious that gaining fat is less detrimental to general athleticism than losing muscle.

And let's not get carried away and become obsessed with weight, because we’re talking about heavyweight fighters here, where 10lbs gain or loss isn’t going to have a huge impact on their performance levels inside the ring. :TU:

We’re talking about boxing, not bodybuilding! And Andy Ruiz Jr. has always been morbidly obese, but he’s never been a Butterbean novelty act, because the man can fight.
adislav123
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by adislav123 »

please look up 'morbidly obese', doesn't apply to ruiz whatsoever.
Impractical Poster
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by Impractical Poster »

ValMar wrote: 04 Jun 2019, 11:40
Enlightened-One wrote: 04 Jun 2019, 11:34 Fair enough, you probably should've phrased your question better though.

Douglas achieved one great victory and had also gained several decent (or "worthy") scalps. Most heavyweights competing today would be flattered to be compared to James ‘Buster’ Douglas, since most of their resumes' are nowehere near as good as his.

You could argue that Ruiz Jr. has already beaten two world-champions, with his loss against Joseph Parker on the Kiwi's home turf being considered highly contentious. Whether he’s capable of more notable victories, only time will tell.
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Onetimeonly
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Re: Andy Ruiz - the second coming of Buster Douglas ?

Post by Onetimeonly »

Impractical Poster wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 00:06
ValMar wrote: 04 Jun 2019, 11:40

I apologise because of my bad English.
I understood what you meant. Some people like to make things a lot more difficult than they are.
Others just copy and paste
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