Andy Ruiz Jr. vs. Anthony Joshua 2 - December 7, 2019

[tiny_acres]

KO can be in a competetive fight. And today it wasn't competetive at all.

I'll give you this. both fights were convincing.

Agreed.
Both fights were convincing

[Ruthless-RKO]

It wasn't like that. Ruiz ate a lot of power punches too, while Joshua successfully clinched a lot in close. Ruiz did almost nothing.

Joshua was still the only one who was clearly effected by the punches. He got me worried at least two times tonight.

He did get hurt once or twice but he moved back straight away.

[DrDuke]

KO can be in a competetive fight. And today it wasn't competetive at all.

I'll give you this. both fights were convincing.

And I didn't call the 1st one not convincing.

[squiggy]

No need for the 3rd fight after such a dominant revenge.

I mean they could have a 3rd fight, but I'd hope it gets put on the backburner for a little while because I'd rather see AJ fight Wilder or Fury first.

Ruiz vs Whyte, or Usyk or Ortiz or Kownacki would be fun in the meantime. If he is able to win against the Kownacki's of the world he stays right in line for a 3rd fight or a crack at Wilder perhaps.

Yes. Even if they are thinking trilogy -- and all in all it's not exactly Bowe-Holyfield type stuff, but even if they are, I hope they mix it up and fight other top guys next instead.

[DrDuke]

Joshua was still the only one who was clearly effected by the punches. He got me worried at least two times tonight.

He did get hurt once or twice but he moved back straight away.

Yeah, Ruiz hurt him just a couple of times, while his own head was bounced back much more.

[Heretic]

Joshua was still the only one who was clearly effected by the punches. He got me worried at least two times tonight.

He did get hurt once or twice but he moved back straight away.

Yeah he fought really well. Deserved win.

[oogiebe]

I'll give you this. both fights were convincing.

And I didn't call the 1st one not convincing.

I just agreed with you. Move on.

[Enlightened-One]

Apart from the controversial Hunter-Povetkin draw, I successfully predicted the outcome of the entire fight card.

[diddy]

No need to see this fight again. It will be a repeat of the one we just saw. AJ vs winner of Wilder-Fury next summer. If not, Dillian Whyte again or Usyk. There's no other fights worth seeing IMO.

[ValMar]

He did get hurt once or twice but he moved back straight away.

Yeah he fought really well. Deserved win.

Clever way to defeat fighter like Ruiz (Wlad's style - distance, job, clinching) but I feel AJ lost his self-confidence, I can see the fear in his eyes. It will be very difficult for him to beat Wilder or Fury (fit and healthy version), and Usyk too.................

BTW, Hunter-Povetkin was much better fight.

[DrDuke]

No need to see this fight again. It will be a repeat of the one we just saw. AJ vs winner of Wilder-Fury next summer. If not, Dillian Whyte again or Usyk. There's no other fights worth seeing IMO.

I agree. I picked Ruiz to win again, but I thought, that Joshua was broken mentally and unable to change his game. Yet Joshua was motivated, lost extra-muscles and provided his smartest performance ever. That's how he should have fought in their first bout.

[Enlightened-One]

I really don’t think Matchroom should stage any more events in Saudi Arabia. The locals don’t give to hoots about boxing and there was zero atmosphere.

The only reason why Saudi wanted to stage the fight was to sell tourism to the west, because their oil reserves are running low.

The only reason why Matchroom staged the fight the event there was for the tax-free miney-grab.

[lazboy]

AJ looked great but also vulnerable at times. Ruiz should be embarrassed by his performance. He knew that AJ would fight in this manner and ended up heavier and with no new wrinkles to his game. Not a great fight however no doubt AJ deserves the victory

It’s a shame Aj is not actively calling out the other top dogs, he should be doing this. Well done though on winning a ‘must win’ fight.

[bury_lad]

Apart from the controversial Hunter-Povetkin draw, I successfully predicted the outcome of the entire fight card.

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[squiggy]

Joshua having made the adjustments he made here, there isn't any obvious counter-adjustment for Ruiz to make that swing a third fight back his way. His strengths and weaknesses are really, really clearly defined.

[Impractical Poster]

KO isn't more dominant, than utterly outclassing an opponent. So, check your brain first before advising something.

Lmao. I'll have to remember not using the word brain and your name in the same sentence. Clearly a oxymoron.

Duke makes a point though. Fighters come from behind on the scorecards all the time to win by ko. It doesn't make it a dominate performance by them by any means. A ko is the most definitive win one can get. But let's not confuse a definitive win with a dominate one.

[Impractical Poster]

Apart from the controversial Hunter-Povetkin draw, I successfully predicted the outcome of the entire fight card.

We'll see if John can conjure up some type of prize for you.

John?

[Bandog]

Apart from the controversial Hunter-Povetkin draw, I successfully predicted the outcome of the entire fight card.

[oogiebe]

Apart from the controversial Hunter-Povetkin draw, I successfully predicted the outcome of the entire fight card.

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[Ruthless-RKO]

I really don’t think Matchroom should stage any more events in Saudi Arabia. The locals don’t give to hoots about boxing and there was zero atmosphere.

The only reason why Saudi wanted to stage the fight was to sell tourism to the west, because their oil reserves are running low.

The only reason why Matchroom staged the fight the event there was for the tax-free miney-grab.

You not heard is Saudi Vision 2030..

[Impractical Poster]

The right guy won. The universe would have been in upheaval had they guy who trained extremely hard to avenge his defeat lost to a guy who obviously give little seriousness to this bout.

[oogiebe]

The right guy won. The universe would have been in upheaval had they guy who trained extremely hard to avenge his defeat lost to a guy who obviously give little seriousness to this bout.

I think once the weigh-in occured most of us who picked RUiz had second thoughts. I stuck to my (wrong) prediction but very hesitantly. 283 was a shocker.

[zeroprobe]

What about a light on his feet 16 stone Ruiz who can close gaps?

[Impractical Poster]

The right guy won. The universe would have been in upheaval had they guy who trained extremely hard to avenge his defeat lost to a guy who obviously give little seriousness to this bout.

I think once the weigh-in occured most of us who picked RUiz had second thoughts. I stuck to my (wrong) prediction but very hesitantly. 283 was a shocker.

That actually pissed me off a little. I wasn't bothered that Ruiz was fat and won the title. But to gain even more weight in the rematch just seemed disrespectful. Especially compared to the serious changes AJ made in his preparations for this fight.

[ValMar]

I picked Ruiz in the first fight..... he’s gonna win by KNOCKOUT again. Simply put, regardless of athletic talent or gifts, RUIZ is the superior fighter and boxer. In terms of experience and ring craft, AJ is essentially a novice in comparison to Ruiz. ONLY in the heavyweight division does this type of scenario take place.... Do you think that after less than 20 amateur fights does AJ become a National champion, let alone an Olympic Gold medallist in any division other than Heavyweight?.... NOT A FREAKING CHANCE.
I’m NOT saying that AJ wasn’t a decent, exceptionally strong athlete that “played” very well at “BOXING”. Now that he’s been knocked out and essentially quit.... he has ZERO CHANCE. Further to which, he has slimmed down and done body weight calisthenics to COMPLETELY eliminate the one advantage he had... which was EXPLOSIVE, natural athletic power, which translated to a “heavy handed” kind of knockout power. Something which only translates to KO power in the heavyweight division. Lighter weight fighters have to cut weight and therefore get in better shape and have more reliable chins than heavyweights, (at least at the elite levels of the sport.)
So, essentially, AJ’s coaches have listened to the criticisms of boxing media and pundits... and done EXACTLY the opposite of what they needed to do to in order for him to have a chance at winning the rematch. As a result, AJ will be slimmer, less powerful AND SLOWER as a result of his “refined” strength and conditioning work. All of this was done in terms of them hoping that he either wouldn’t gas or would suddenly have some natural ability to suddenly not be as robotic or actually have some natural flow to his punches or “actual” natural fighting ability. Only a time machine creates that scenario.
As soon as Ruiz feels how less strong and slower AJ feels to him.... he’s gonna walk him down and walk right through him, AJ is going to take a career-ending beating and be knocked out in rounds 5 or 6. It’s gonna be UGLY.... you heard it here first. Just like last time.

Normally, I would’ve kept my analysis to myself (cuz i’m trying to move up the PTBF scoreboard), but I’m STRONGLY considering starting a YouTube channel with fight predictions and analysis and working at conveying my thoughts without being too overly offensive. So tired of listening to semi brain-dead Mayweathers and punch drunk ex-fighters give insights and predictions about fights. If you pay attention, there are 3/4 fairly well-respected coaches whom ARE ALWAYS WRONG. IT IS MIND-BOGGLNG.

So, it was a little bit different.............