Dillian Whyte cleared by UKAD

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Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 11:24
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 10:43 I'm not a Whyte fan at all, but he's done nothing wrong. Some of the conspiracy theories on here are absolutely laughable.
The only part I don't understand is why they cleared him the day before his fight.

They could have cleared him at any point since July and for some reason they decide to do it the day before he chooses to fight again.

Look at how long it took for the Fury situation so be cleared up, took forever.
They seem to wait until the suspension is over to rule on it.
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Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 11:24
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 10:43 I'm not a Whyte fan at all, but he's done nothing wrong. Some of the conspiracy theories on here are absolutely laughable.
The only part I don't understand is why they cleared him the day before his fight.

They could have cleared him at any point since July and for some reason they decide to do it the day before he chooses to fight again.

Look at how long it took for the Fury situation so be cleared up, took forever.
Would you have been less suspicious if he’d have been cleared 2 days before his fight? Or the day after his fight? Or in 2 weeks time?
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jameswilson wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 11:43
Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 11:24

The only part I don't understand is why they cleared him the day before his fight.

They could have cleared him at any point since July and for some reason they decide to do it the day before he chooses to fight again.

Look at how long it took for the Fury situation so be cleared up, took forever.
Would you have been less suspicious if he’d have been cleared 2 days before his fight? Or the day after his fight? Or in 2 weeks time?
Yes
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Dbol would be a crap choice for boxing anyway. You retain so much water on it, it'd be near impossible to do the cardio required. It's just cheap shit. Stuff a skint teenager would take, not a top athlete.
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Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 11:24
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 10:43 I'm not a Whyte fan at all, but he's done nothing wrong. Some of the conspiracy theories on here are absolutely laughable.
The only part I don't understand is why they cleared him the day before his fight.

They could have cleared him at any point since July and for some reason they decide to do it the day before he chooses to fight again.

Look at how long it took for the Fury situation so be cleared up, took forever.
Fury effectively sat out the ban. Call me cynical, but I think that was the intention all along. One of my traveler mates, swears that was the case.

With regards to Whyte and the timing, with lawyers involved, that means confidentiality and radio silence until there is a resolution.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 13:05
Nondescript wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 11:24

The only part I don't understand is why they cleared him the day before his fight.

They could have cleared him at any point since July and for some reason they decide to do it the day before he chooses to fight again.

Look at how long it took for the Fury situation so be cleared up, took forever.
Fury effectively sat out the ban. Call me cynical, but I think that was the intention all along. One of my traveler mates, swears that was the case.

With regards to Whyte and the timing, with lawyers involved, that means confidentiality and radio silence until there is a resolution.
He didn’t even have a promoter
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 13:20
keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 13:05

Fury effectively sat out the ban. Call me cynical, but I think that was the intention all along. One of my traveler mates, swears that was the case.

With regards to Whyte and the timing, with lawyers involved, that means confidentiality and radio silence until there is a resolution.
He didn’t even have a promoter
I'm not sure what you mean mate.
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 13:27
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 13:20

He didn’t even have a promoter
I'm not sure what you mean mate.
You said he was sat on the ban. What did you mean by that?
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Rightly or wrongly he has been cleared, end of
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keithmoonhangover wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 10:43 I'm not a Whyte fan at all, but he's done nothing wrong. Some of the conspiracy theories on here are absolutely laughable.
I think most of the noise is over UKAD more than Whyte at this point.
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He looked horrible today, badly out of shape. Barking no more...
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Dillian Whyte urged to make explanation public, UKAD ‘shambles’ blasted

British heavyweight Dillian Whyte’s recent public press release which ultimately cleared him of any wrongdoing is still a sore topic amongst fans.

Whyte was confirmed to have tested positive for steroids over the summer by the UK Anti-Doping in a statement on Friday.

UKAD revealed the levels were minute and that they had accepted Whyte’s explanation of how they got into his system.

“The charge was brought after a sample provided by Mr. Whyte on 20 June 2019 indicated the presence of two metabolites of a steroid,” confirmed the Agency. “UKAD initiated an investigation with which Mr. Whyte cooperated fully.

“UKAD has accepted the explanation provided by Mr. Whyte and, in accordance with the UK Anti-Doping Rules, the charge against Mr. Whyte has been withdrawn.”

Questions are now being raised as to how that conversation actually went and what Whyte said to clear his name.

Social media buzz over the lengthy ‘joint statement’ is ongoing despite Whyte winning his comeback fight in Saudi Arabia.

If Whyte was willing to make an explanation to UKAD, one that satisfied them and ultimately cleared him, he should give the same explanation to the public and his fans.”

“UKAD has accepted the explanation given by Mr Whyte”. Just throw the organisation in the bin ffs. No money, no morals, no authority. Just shambolic.

“Where are the b-sample result?

What was Whyte’s explanation?

What was contaminated?”


“Would be good to have an explanation of why UKAD feels the metabolites in question were “indicative of an isolated contamination event… not suggestive of doping”. Whyte’s a pretty big name now and it feels to me that someone has put pressure on UKAD to release this statement.”


As some asked questions, others jumped to the defense of Whyte.

They want ‘The Bodysnatcher’ left alone to continue his career and blame UKAD for the long delay.

“The maddest thing is how long its taken to effectively accept an explanation. There MUST be a shakeup at UKAD …. the process is absolutely shocking and has cost Whyte his 2020 WBC shot. Not good enough.”

“Dillian Whyte cleared by UKAD – they’ve accepted the explanation by DW and his team – therefore everyone else has to, quick to condemn be quicker to apologise and appease imo. Also if the dubious accept this then they must accept Canelo, Pac-Man, Povetkin etc etc etc.”


Whyte was massively overweight as he defeated Mariusz Wach on points in an undercard fight on Andy Ruiz Jr. vs Anthony Joshua 2.

BUSINESS

The 31 year-old blamed six months of stress over his future as the catalyst. With a huge 2020 now in the offing, Whyte has vowed to get back to business.

“I boxed nowhere near my standard. I’ve been off for six months. People have been screwing me left and right for the last six months,” said Whyte. My mind hasn’t been in the right place but I carried on training.

“I took this fight on three weeks’ notice, came in about a stone and half overweight but with my defense and stuff, I knew I could get through him. I wanted to stop him but he’s tough.

“It’s just good to be back in there. Everyone has been screwing me apart from a handful of people. I’ve been through hell these past couple of months but we are here!”


On the UKAD statement, he added: “Everyone was treating me like a hero for beating Oscar Rivas to then be treated like a nobody. My team, Eddie and Sky stuck by me.

“Sorry guys for not getting the knockout but like I said, I feel great to have even made it to the fight because where I was two or three months ago was a dark place.

“I thought about walking away from boxing. A few times I thought, ‘You know, I’ve made a bit of money, I can take it, run off into the night and live my life.’”
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It’s not on Whyte to explain himself any further. UKAD are the ones who apparently don’t know what the fvck they’re doing, they should explain their investigations and rationale in full.
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Its quite simple, for UKAD to survive they have to clear Whyte. You can be sure that the lawyers of Rivas have been readying themselves for a multi million pound lawsuit in the event of a failed test.

So Dillian, UKAD, Hearn all happy with the deal.

Rivas? Drop all legal claim in return for a long term Matchroom deal to be announced soon.
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JWP wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 11:48 Its quite simple, for UKAD to survive they have to clear Whyte. You can be sure that the lawyers of Rivas have been readying themselves for a multi million pound lawsuit in the event of a failed test.

So Dillian, UKAD, Hearn all happy with the deal.

Rivas? Drop all legal claim in return for a long term Matchroom deal to be announced soon.
Funnily enough, there were rumours just last week that Rivas and Matchroom were in negotiations :maybe:
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 11:58
JWP wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 11:48 Its quite simple, for UKAD to survive they have to clear Whyte. You can be sure that the lawyers of Rivas have been readying themselves for a multi million pound lawsuit in the event of a failed test.

So Dillian, UKAD, Hearn all happy with the deal.

Rivas? Drop all legal claim in return for a long term Matchroom deal to be announced soon.
Funnily enough, there were rumours just last week that Rivas and Matchroom were in negotiations :maybe:
Yvon Michel has been discussing this deal for a while with Hearn. He knows it will pay him good money to be affiliated with DAZN for a few fights at least, and the list of HW’s is endless.
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After Russia and their ban UKAD may need to stop having shit like this and the Fury fiasco, can't ignore strict liability while pointing fingers at the Ruskies
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 12:45
Boxerbeetle wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 11:58

Funnily enough, there were rumours just last week that Rivas and Matchroom were in negotiations :maybe:
Yvon Michel has been discussing this deal for a while with Hearn. He knows it will pay him good money to be affiliated with DAZN for a few fights at least, and the list of HW’s is endless.
Its the only option for Rivas, he could sue, demand an independent inquiry, pay a bent doctor to trump up some lasting damage etc etc, but its the end of his career if he does.

Hearn intimated that Hauser will be sued at the weekend, i'd be amazed if that happens.
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JWP wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 13:59
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 12:45

Yvon Michel has been discussing this deal for a while with Hearn. He knows it will pay him good money to be affiliated with DAZN for a few fights at least, and the list of HW’s is endless.
Its the only option for Rivas, he could sue, demand an independent inquiry, pay a bent doctor to trump up some lasting damage etc etc, but its the end of his career if he does.

Hearn intimated that Hauser will be sued at the weekend, i'd be amazed if that happens.
Did it all start with a online article
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Nightmare Roy wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 14:29
JWP wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 13:59

Its the only option for Rivas, he could sue, demand an independent inquiry, pay a bent doctor to trump up some lasting damage etc etc, but its the end of his career if he does.

Hearn intimated that Hauser will be sued at the weekend, i'd be amazed if that happens.
Did it all start with a online article
Hauser via BS, I dont know if Hauser or BS are on the PBC payroll but Hauser!?!? Quite possibly the greatest writer/reporter the game has ever seen and 2020 HOF Inductee, why would he make this up???

I've meaning to give The Black Lights another read one day, its the book that opened my eyes to very things being discussed here.
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JWP wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 14:54
Nightmare Roy wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 14:29
Did it all start with a online article
Hauser via BS, I dont know if Hauser or BS are on the PBC payroll but Hauser!?!? Quite possibly the greatest writer/reporter the game has ever seen and 2020 HOF Inductee, why would he make this up???

I've meaning to give The Black Lights another read one day, its the book that opened my eyes to very things being discussed here.
What did he make up? UKAD have confirmed what he said, there was an adverse finding. Can't really sue a guy for reporting facts. Who ever gave him the information might be liable though
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Boxing Prospect wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 17:59
JWP wrote: 09 Dec 2019, 14:54

Hauser via BS, I dont know if Hauser or BS are on the PBC payroll but Hauser!?!? Quite possibly the greatest writer/reporter the game has ever seen and 2020 HOF Inductee, why would he make this up???

I've meaning to give The Black Lights another read one day, its the book that opened my eyes to very things being discussed here.
What did he make up? UKAD have confirmed what he said, there was an adverse finding. Can't really sue a guy for reporting facts. Who ever gave him the information might be liable though
True, I'd be curious of how Hauser got hold of it, i'm making Allegedly favourite!!!
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WBC have now lifted the suspension.

Could be in line to fight winner of Wilder-Fury 2
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WBC had to reinstate Whyte as they had no grounds on which to suspend him in the first place as he had passed all VADA tests.

They could have been looking at a massive law suit from Whyte's lawyers in which their favourable treatment of Wilder and PBC affiliated heavyweights would have been scrutinized by a court.

Still can't see them giving Whyte a shot before 2021, though. There will be enough wriggle room to give Wilder another voluntary if Fury isn't ready to fight early next year (which he probably won't).
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