UKAD clears Dillian Whyte - charges dropped!

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UKAD clears Dillian Whyte - charges dropped!

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Dillian ‘The Body Snatcher’ Whyte 26-1 (18) has been cleared by UK Anti-Doping (UKAD) following his positive drugs test in June.

https://www.ringnews24.com/2019/12/07/u ... ion-event/

The WBC are now compelled to reinstate his mandatory challenger status and also confirm his ownership of the interim world title.

Thoughts? :-?
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He should be reinstated. Maybe he can get a shot next summer.
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The ball is very much in the WBC court.

Something tells me the WBC will come out with some bullcrap along the lines of it would be unfair on Tyson Fury to push back his mandatory, therefore Whyte will remain mandatory for a fight in 2021.

I also wonder if the journalist, Thomas Hauser, who ran with the story will come out in support of Whyte on this.
Edit: After all he introduced the idea in the initial article that the WBC would be well within their rights to suspend Whyte...
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Finkel wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 21:13 The ball is very much in the WBC court.

Something tells me the WBC will come out with some bullcrap along the lines of it would be unfair on Tyson Fury to push back his mandatory, therefore Whyte will remain mandatory for a fight in 2021.

I also wonder if the journalist who ran with the story will come out in support of Whyte on this.
Journo was right, there was an adverse finding. Only thing is UKAD has accepted the explanation. They have stated an adverse sample was found, as Hauser reported.

The UKAD statement leaves a lot more questions than answers.
What were the dates of the other tests? What was the explanation given? How did the metabolites get there? Have UKAD changed their general strict liability ruling from Whytes first failed test? Had the drug been taken on the night of June 17th would it have been expected to have anything other than very small number of metabolites on June 20th? Why was this made public a day before Whyte's next fight? During an investigation is there no issue with trainer and sparring? (as per Molina's extention) What was different about this case and that of Ryan Martin, who tested for low level of metabolites and claimed contamination?
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Boxing Prospect wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 21:20
Finkel wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 21:13 The ball is very much in the WBC court.

Something tells me the WBC will come out with some bullcrap along the lines of it would be unfair on Tyson Fury to push back his mandatory, therefore Whyte will remain mandatory for a fight in 2021.

I also wonder if the journalist who ran with the story will come out in support of Whyte on this.
Journo was right, there was an adverse finding. Only thing is UKAD has accepted the explanation. They have stated an adverse sample was found, as Hauser reported.

The UKAD statement leaves a lot more questions than answers.
What were the dates of the other tests? What was the explanation given? How did the metabolites get there? Have UKAD changed their general strict liability ruling from Whytes first failed test? Had the drug been taken on the night of June 17th would it have been expected to have anything other than very small number of metabolites on June 20th? Why was this made public a day before Whyte's next fight? During an investigation is there no issue with trainer and sparring? (as per Molina's extention) What was different about this case and that of Ryan Martin, who tested for low level of metabolites and claimed contamination?
Sorry I had editted my initial post.

I don't want to suggest the journalist was wrong to report the existence of a failed test.

But I did feel at the time the final two paragraphs went a little beyond reporting the facts and turned into an editorial:
By virtue of his win, Whyte became the "mandatory" challenger for Deontay Wilder's WBC heavyweight crown. In all likelihood, the WBC would have withdrawn its sanction of Whyte-Rivas had it been aware of the positive test result prior to the fight.

It has been widely speculated that the WBC will elevate Wilder to "franchise champion" status, thus eliminating the mandatory requirement that he fight Whyte. This latest development might further complicate Whyte's path to a fight against Wilder.
Whyte reputation took a severe beating these last 5-6 months based on this one article. And it gave the excuse for the WBC to push back any potential mandatory to 2021. Based on a leak of information whilst the governing body (UKAD) was following its standard procedure.
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how in fornicating hell would they justify making wilder franchise fvcking champ. with his shit record, the fury fiasco ffs & his history of plain ducking whyte

fvck that franchise champ shit anyway completely.

but after avoiding facing whyte out of pure cowardice for 3 fornicating years, to then go and make wilder franchise champ FOR THE ONE AND ONLY REASON TO FURTHER AVOID FACING WHYTE would just be ... (missing words!)
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Such a sad little guy. Buck up little trooper. :TU:
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Finkel wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 21:32
Boxing Prospect wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 21:20

Journo was right, there was an adverse finding. Only thing is UKAD has accepted the explanation. They have stated an adverse sample was found, as Hauser reported.

The UKAD statement leaves a lot more questions than answers.
What were the dates of the other tests? What was the explanation given? How did the metabolites get there? Have UKAD changed their general strict liability ruling from Whytes first failed test? Had the drug been taken on the night of June 17th would it have been expected to have anything other than very small number of metabolites on June 20th? Why was this made public a day before Whyte's next fight? During an investigation is there no issue with trainer and sparring? (as per Molina's extention) What was different about this case and that of Ryan Martin, who tested for low level of metabolites and claimed contamination?
Sorry I had editted my initial post.

I don't want to suggest the journalist was wrong to report the existence of a failed test.

But I did feel at the time the final two paragraphs went a little beyond reporting the facts and turned into an editorial:
By virtue of his win, Whyte became the "mandatory" challenger for Deontay Wilder's WBC heavyweight crown. In all likelihood, the WBC would have withdrawn its sanction of Whyte-Rivas had it been aware of the positive test result prior to the fight.

It has been widely speculated that the WBC will elevate Wilder to "franchise champion" status, thus eliminating the mandatory requirement that he fight Whyte. This latest development might further complicate Whyte's path to a fight against Wilder.
Whyte reputation took a severe beating these last 5-6 months based on this one article. And it gave the excuse for the WBC to push back any potential mandatory to 2021. Based on a leak of information whilst the governing body (UKAD) was following its standard procedure.
It wasn't any subsequent article that affected his reputation.

Failing the test in the first place was the reason for that.
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I wonder how much cash that cost Fast Eddie?
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ewenhay wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 05:06
Finkel wrote: 06 Dec 2019, 21:32

Sorry I had editted my initial post.

I don't want to suggest the journalist was wrong to report the existence of a failed test.

But I did feel at the time the final two paragraphs went a little beyond reporting the facts and turned into an editorial:


Whyte reputation took a severe beating these last 5-6 months based on this one article. And it gave the excuse for the WBC to push back any potential mandatory to 2021. Based on a leak of information whilst the governing body (UKAD) was following its standard procedure.
It wasn't any subsequent article that affected his reputation.

Failing the test in the first place was the reason for that.
It didn't derail his career in the slightest. Though it does appear to have sent him into a losing eating contest with Andy Ruiz.
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..I agree with a poster above saying the UKAD statement leaves a lot more questions than answers...
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He will not be cleared in the eyes of the public unless he explains to the public what he explained to UKAD. Releasing the full decision would be right think to do.

1. What steroid was he caught using?
2. How did it get in his system?
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Seems he is still guilty in most people's eyes...

First povetkin
Then Whyte

Common thread?
Really makes you think...
:wave:
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Finkel wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 11:32 Seems he is still guilty in most people's eyes...

First povetkin
Then Whyte

Common thread?
Really makes you think...
:wave:
Was he vindicated the first time after the 2 year ban?
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You mean the sport supplement?
Don't be soft man
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UKAD operates with a small budget compared to Hearn. Eddie must have had his lawyers send threatening letters to them to have this statement made. Does anyone believe AJ is clean?
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It was a question, cupcake, I think most athletes have done something so I pay little attention. He got suspended 2 years for a tainted supplement? So yes, he was exonerated?
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Athletes take supplements
Mistakes are made by athletes who have yet to make the big time so don't have dieticians
Nothing more to say
Read up about it if you need to

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/22047144
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Finkel wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 12:21 Athletes take supplements
Mistakes are made by athletes who have yet to make the big time so don't have dieticians
Nothing more to say
Read up about it if you need to

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/22047144
Dillian Whyte makes millions. No way in hell he doesn't have a dietician
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mustlogin wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 10:05 He will not be cleared in the eyes of the public unless he explains to the public what he explained to UKAD. Releasing the full decision would be right think to do.
......
..and he'd better do it in an articulate and convincing way..
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tiny_acres wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 12:55
Finkel wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 12:21 Athletes take supplements
Mistakes are made by athletes who have yet to make the big time so don't have dieticians
Nothing more to say
Read up about it if you need to

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/22047144
Dillian Whyte makes millions. No way in hell he doesn't have a dietician
We are talking about the past are we not?
2013
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Bandog wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 06:28 I wonder how much cash that cost Fast Eddie?
Exactly what I was thinking.
UKAD is satisfied that the presence of the very low amounts of metabolites in his 20 June 2019 sample was not caused by any fault, negligence or wrongdoing on Mr Whyte’s part
This is a joke.
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mustlogin wrote: 07 Dec 2019, 10:05He will not be cleared in the eyes of the public unless he explains to the public what he explained to UKAD. Releasing the full decision would be right think to do.

1. What steroid was he caught using?
2. How did it get in his system?
Many casual observers, such as yourself, determine guilt based solely upon the "no smoke without a fire" justice system, regardless of the assertions of the accused party.

Dillian Whyte doesn’t need to explain himself. He’s been rigorously tested, undergone the official due process and has subsequently been cleared of any wrongdoing.

UKAD and Dillian Whyte issued a joint statement about the matter. ‘The Body Snatcher’ has also discussed the issue at length on the iFL TV YouTube channel.

People will inevitably consider Whyte of being a drug cheat regardless of any explanations he provides. So there’s nothing else to say on the matter – it’s time for him to move on.
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Enlightened-One wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 06:35 ......
UKAD and Dillian Whyte issued a joint statement about the matter. ‘The Body Snatcher’ has also discussed the issue at length on the iFL TV YouTube channel.
......
..which interview is that? ...the one I listened to was all about "I can't talk about it or I'm innocent blah blah blah"...
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greg wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 09:42
Enlightened-One wrote: 10 Dec 2019, 06:35 ......
UKAD and Dillian Whyte issued a joint statement about the matter. ‘The Body Snatcher’ has also discussed the issue at length on the iFL TV YouTube channel.
......
..which interview is that? ...the one I listened to was all about "I can't talk about it or I'm innocent blah blah blah"...
It's easy to access the iFL TV YouTube channel and find their videos of Dillian Whyte's interviews.

In terms of him declaring his innocence to Kugan Cassius about the recent accusations, what more do you need him to say?

UKAD and Dillian Whyte also issued a joint statement about the matter.

The official explanation for the likely cause for the trace amounts of the metabolites was due to an "isolated contamination event", based on the multitude of clean VADA and UKAD samples taken around the timeframe (i.e. 17th June until the 20th July).

What more do you need?
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