Loma has interesting fights in his division like Davis, Lopez/Commey and Haney!

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Loma has interesting fights in his division like Davis, Lopez/Commey and Haney!

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It would be very interesting to see what name/s will fight Loma in 2020. Davis, Lopez/Commey or Haney? :box:
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Agreed 100%. I don’t have Lomachenko in my Top 5 P4P for the simple fact that he doesn’t have that signature win yet imo. I give him loads of credit for beating Gary Russell and Nicholas Walters but I still think he comes up a little short of having a win resume that puts him top 5 P4P. Just my opinion of course P4P lists are very subjective. If he beats one of the guys you just named though, it’d jump him right up to #2 in my book behind Canelo. If he beats 2 of them, I’d absolutely have him at #1. Hope some of these happen soon
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Commey/Lopez winner, then Berchelt/Valdez winner. All these guys are with Top Rank so no obstacles. Chasing Davis fight is also possibility but i doubt. I have also bad feeling about some George Kambosos bulls§§t
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Ron C wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:31 Agreed 100%. I don’t have Lomachenko in my Top 5 P4P for the simple fact that he doesn’t have that signature win yet imo. I give him loads of credit for beating Gary Russell and Nicholas Walters but I still think he comes up a little short of having a win resume that puts him top 5 P4P. Just my opinion of course P4P lists are very subjective. If he beats one of the guys you just named though, it’d jump him right up to #2 in my book behind Canelo. If he beats 2 of them, I’d absolutely have him at #1. Hope some of these happen soon
Agree, Russell and Walters are very underrated wins. His 2019 year was big disapointment for me. Hopefully there will be no more Crollas in 2020
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Ron C wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:31 Agreed 100%. I don’t have Lomachenko in my Top 5 P4P for the simple fact that he doesn’t have that signature win yet imo. I give him loads of credit for beating Gary Russell and Nicholas Walters but I still think he comes up a little short of having a win resume that puts him top 5 P4P. Just my opinion of course P4P lists are very subjective. If he beats one of the guys you just named though, it’d jump him right up to #2 in my book behind Canelo. If he beats 2 of them, I’d absolutely have him at #1. Hope some of these happen soon
Very good wins. If I remember Gary was in very high regards by the boxing purists and Loma pretty much 'humbled' him. Walters is another good win for Loma.

I'm very curious to see what Davis will do if the WBA will order a fight between him and Loma. Would Davis keep fighting lesser opponents until Loma is gonna look beatable, move up, purse bid or Davis would fight Loma? :o
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All good fights and he should be shamed if he doesn;'t fight one of them or Berchelt next year. Makes total sense to fight the Lopez/Commey winner next. Any of the above have a chance to beat him
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Cent0089 wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:40 Commey/Lopez winner, then Berchelt/Valdez winner. All these guys are with Top Rank so no obstacles. Chasing Davis fight is also possibility but i doubt. I have also bad feeling about some George Kambosos bulls§§t
Yup. True. These fights are the most realistically.
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Cent0089 wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:42
Ron C wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:31 Agreed 100%. I don’t have Lomachenko in my Top 5 P4P for the simple fact that he doesn’t have that signature win yet imo. I give him loads of credit for beating Gary Russell and Nicholas Walters but I still think he comes up a little short of having a win resume that puts him top 5 P4P. Just my opinion of course P4P lists are very subjective. If he beats one of the guys you just named though, it’d jump him right up to #2 in my book behind Canelo. If he beats 2 of them, I’d absolutely have him at #1. Hope some of these happen soon
Agree, Russell and Walters are very underrated wins. His 2019 year was big disapointment for me. Hopefully there will be no more Crollas in 2020
I hope so. Loma vs Lopez/Commey in 2020 for the undisputed lightweight super-champion. :box: Unfortunately Loma vs Davis /Haney are difficult fights to be made.
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I heard that he is riddled with injuries and will not fight for too much longer.
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Ron C wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:31 Agreed 100%. I don’t have Lomachenko in my Top 5 P4P for the simple fact that he doesn’t have that signature win yet imo. I give him loads of credit for beating Gary Russell and Nicholas Walters but I still think he comes up a little short of having a win resume that puts him top 5 P4P. Just my opinion of course P4P lists are very subjective. If he beats one of the guys you just named though, it’d jump him right up to #2 in my book behind Canelo. If he beats 2 of them, I’d absolutely have him at #1. Hope some of these happen soon
So, who are 5 people having better signature wins than Loma ???
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boxing_rocks wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 12:58
Ron C wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:31 Agreed 100%. I don’t have Lomachenko in my Top 5 P4P for the simple fact that he doesn’t have that signature win yet imo. I give him loads of credit for beating Gary Russell and Nicholas Walters but I still think he comes up a little short of having a win resume that puts him top 5 P4P. Just my opinion of course P4P lists are very subjective. If he beats one of the guys you just named though, it’d jump him right up to #2 in my book behind Canelo. If he beats 2 of them, I’d absolutely have him at #1. Hope some of these happen soon
So, who are 5 people having better signature wins than Loma ???
x2..................
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Any of the choices named in the thread title would be good.
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ValMar wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 13:36
boxing_rocks wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 12:58

So, who are 5 people having better signature wins than Loma ???
x2..................
There aren't 5. There aren't 3.
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Cent0089 wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:40 Commey/Lopez winner, then Berchelt/Valdez winner. All these guys are with Top Rank so no obstacles. Chasing Davis fight is also possibility but i doubt. I have also bad feeling about some George Kambosos bulls§§t
What's this about Furious George?
Do you think that might be next year for Loma?
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KiwiRider wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 14:05
Cent0089 wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:40 Commey/Lopez winner, then Berchelt/Valdez winner. All these guys are with Top Rank so no obstacles. Chasing Davis fight is also possibility but i doubt. I have also bad feeling about some George Kambosos bulls§§t
What's this about Furious George?
Do you think that might be next year for Loma?
There were some rumors this year. I have nothing against Kambosos but he should at least defeat Commey/Lopez loser or somebody serious if he wanna fight for 3 titles
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Arum said if Lopez wins they are going to make that fight vs Loma for April or March. Loma should just fight the winner tbh, even if it's Commey instead of Lopez. Both would be good opponents and 'undisputed' belt holding on the line, if the franchise counts lol
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margaret thatcher wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 14:36 Arum said if Lopez wins they are going to make that fight vs Loma for April or March. Loma should just fight the winner tbh, even if it's Commey instead of Lopez. Both would be good opponents and 'undisputed' belt holding on the line
Agree, hopefully we will have superfight soon :box: :box: :box:
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Best part of all this is fact, that Lopez, Commey, Berchelt, Stevenson, all are with Top Rank. All presents big fights for Lomachenko and all present also serious threats for him. Also second tier oponents like Kambosos, Herring, Frampton and Valdez are also with Top Rank. Golden Bob can make lot of interesting fights with this stable, hopefully there will be no BS fights and best will fight the best :box: :box: :box:
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Cent0089 wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 14:30
KiwiRider wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 14:05

What's this about Furious George?
Do you think that might be next year for Loma?
There were some rumors this year. I have nothing against Kambosos but he should at least defeat Commey/Lopez loser or somebody serious if he wanna fight for 3 titles
True that mate :TU:
I like George, bit I still rate him as a prospect, not a contender yet

We will see how he does with Bey.
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boxing_rocks wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 12:58
Ron C wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 11:31 Agreed 100%. I don’t have Lomachenko in my Top 5 P4P for the simple fact that he doesn’t have that signature win yet imo. I give him loads of credit for beating Gary Russell and Nicholas Walters but I still think he comes up a little short of having a win resume that puts him top 5 P4P. Just my opinion of course P4P lists are very subjective. If he beats one of the guys you just named though, it’d jump him right up to #2 in my book behind Canelo. If he beats 2 of them, I’d absolutely have him at #1. Hope some of these happen soon
So, who are 5 people having better signature wins than Loma ???
I don't think resume matters as much p4p, but fury, usyk, gvodzyk, canelo, PAC(just Thurman), Estrada, wong, Josh taylor for sure and plenty of debatable guys like Inoue, bud, Spence, j Williams, Josh,
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gilgamesh wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 13:54
ValMar wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 13:36

x2..................
There aren't 5. There aren't 3.
Cmon, with the context of his 3rd fight being Russell it's crazy impressive but you're knee deep in his resume koolaid. I believe you said that Crawford could beat d Garcia, Thurman and Porter and he still wouldn't measure up.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 16:53
gilgamesh wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 13:54

There aren't 5. There aren't 3.
Cmon, with the context of his 3rd fight being Russell it's crazy impressive but you're knee deep in his resume koolaid. I believe you said that Crawford could beat d Garcia, Thurman and Porter and he still wouldn't measure up.
Russell, Rigondeaux, Linares, Walters are all pretty damn big wins, and his next tier wins ain't bad either.

Crawford's single biggest is still either Gamboa or Khan. He has lots of solid next tier guys as well, but I don't think it's unfair to say he'd at least need to beat 2 of those 3 to catch up to where Loma's resume is.

Or a single win over Spence would do it in one fell swoop.

Considering that he's kinda stalling out at Welterweight I imagine that's why they're planning to catch people's eye by having him go up 2 weight classes at once to Middle. Though even there he may still have the problem of not being able to get the biggest fights. We'll see.

I guess Al has control over all the big names at 154 huh? I'd imagine that's the only reason he'd skip that division entirely. Either that or he just has a specific match at Middleweight (most likely Murata) in mind.
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gilgamesh wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 17:08
Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 16:53

Cmon, with the context of his 3rd fight being Russell it's crazy impressive but you're knee deep in his resume koolaid. I believe you said that Crawford could beat d Garcia, Thurman and Porter and he still wouldn't measure up.
Russell, Rigondeaux, Linares, Walters are all pretty damn big wins, and his next tier wins ain't bad either.

Crawford's single biggest is still either Gamboa or Khan. He has lots of solid next tier guys as well, but I don't think it's unfair to say he'd at least need to beat 2 of those 3 to catch up to where Loma's resume is.

Or a single win over Spence would do it in one fell swoop.

Considering that he's kinda stalling out at Welterweight I imagine that's why they're planning to catch people's eye by having him go up 2 weight classes at once to Middle. Though even there he may still have the problem of not being able to get the biggest fights. We'll see.

I guess Al has control over all the big names at 154 huh? I'd imagine that's the only reason he'd skip that division entirely. Either that or he just has a specific match at Middleweight (most likely Murata) in mind.
I don't see that happening. Loma has a very solid resume, wasn't the question about a signature win? There are definitely more than 5 guys with recent better wins. Like I said, I weigh more feeling than resume with p4p. If it's resume canelo is clearly #1.
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Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 17:15
gilgamesh wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 17:08

Russell, Rigondeaux, Linares, Walters are all pretty damn big wins, and his next tier wins ain't bad either.

Crawford's single biggest is still either Gamboa or Khan. He has lots of solid next tier guys as well, but I don't think it's unfair to say he'd at least need to beat 2 of those 3 to catch up to where Loma's resume is.

Or a single win over Spence would do it in one fell swoop.

Considering that he's kinda stalling out at Welterweight I imagine that's why they're planning to catch people's eye by having him go up 2 weight classes at once to Middle. Though even there he may still have the problem of not being able to get the biggest fights. We'll see.

I guess Al has control over all the big names at 154 huh? I'd imagine that's the only reason he'd skip that division entirely. Either that or he just has a specific match at Middleweight (most likely Murata) in mind.
I don't see that happening. Loma has a very solid resume, wasn't the question about a signature win? There are definitely more than 5 guys with recent better wins. Like I said, I weigh more feeling than resume with p4p. If it's resume canelo is clearly #1.
Canelo would be #1 if there wasn't so often a lingering doubt around his biggest wins. Loma wins his fights conclusively. Canelo ekes out his wins in fights where people debate whether he won or not. At least in a lot of cases.
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gilgamesh wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 17:17
Onetimeonly wrote: 13 Dec 2019, 17:15

I don't see that happening. Loma has a very solid resume, wasn't the question about a signature win? There are definitely more than 5 guys with recent better wins. Like I said, I weigh more feeling than resume with p4p. If it's resume canelo is clearly #1.
Canelo would be #1 if there wasn't so often a lingering doubt around his biggest wins. Loma wins his fights conclusively. Canelo ekes out his wins in fights where people debate whether he won or not. At least in a lot of cases.
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