Fighter of the Year 2019

[Onetimeonly]

Bit difficult to give it to Mayweather when he was only active for half the decade.

If only the pro ranks are being consider it probably makes sense to give it to Pacquiao as the decade runs from 01-01-2010 to 31-12-2019

Fair point, but Mayweather's wins were significant enough to give whole decade kudos.

He easily outclassed Alvarez and Pacquiao who are two other contenders for the decade.

It's hard to look past Mayweather.

It's not hard with an agenda. LOL

[Finkel]

Bit difficult to give it to Mayweather when he was only active for half the decade.

If only the pro ranks are being consider it probably makes sense to give it to Pacquiao as the decade runs from 01-01-2010 to 31-12-2019

During which Pacquiao went 12-4 (1), lost his 2 biggest fights, and has about 3 good wins....

He did, but those 12 wins were all against top 10 welter weights
4th,5th,4th,1st,8th,2nd,8th,2nd,7th,8th,6th,5th

So 3 good wins is an interesting analysis. Two of his losses were also fairly controversial

I would agree Canelo has arguably a better resume, but he has some low ranked opponents mixed in and the corporate machine behind him kept everything running smoothly and his record looking nice

[Finkel]

Bit difficult to give it to Mayweather when he was only active for half the decade.

If only the pro ranks are being consider it probably makes sense to give it to Pacquiao as the decade runs from 01-01-2010 to 31-12-2019

Fair point, but Mayweather's wins were significant enough to give whole decade kudos.

He easily outclassed Alvarez and Pacquiao who are two other contenders for the decade.

It's hard to look past Mayweather.

If Mayweather is being considered, who again only completed 5 years of the 10, then I think Ward has a very strong claim

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Fair point, but Mayweather's wins were significant enough to give whole decade kudos.

He easily outclassed Alvarez and Pacquiao who are two other contenders for the decade.

It's hard to look past Mayweather.

If Mayweather is being considered, who again only completed 5 years of the 10, then I think Ward has a very strong claim

You don't have to compete throughout the whole decade to be considered.

Sugar Ray Leonard is a classic example; he was the fighter of the 80s in some quarters, yet he was inactive for much of the decade.

He only had 12 fights throughout the 1980s, but crucially, some of them were huge all-time significant bouts & he won most of them.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Canelo deserves to be called a fighter of the year indeed. Unified vs the top middleweight and conquered the belt of arguably the best light heavyweight.

Kovalev wasnt considered the top lhw by anyone. There was a reason canelo was the betting favorite

[Finkel]

If Mayweather is being considered, who again only completed 5 years of the 10, then I think Ward has a very strong claim

You don't have to compete throughout the whole decade to be considered.

Sugar Ray Leonard is a classic example; he was the fighter of the 80s in some quarters, yet he was inactive for much of the decade.

He only had 12 fights throughout the 1980s, but crucially, some of them were huge all-time significant bouts & he won most of them.

I think that is a really nice argument, but if it is a way of supporting Mayweather's place as number 1, I would counter that by saying one or two things:

First, Leonard, though he retired twice, he did fight from beginning to the end of the decade
and as you point out it was against the very best in epic fights to assert his dominance.

Second, If Leonard had stayed retired after 8 fights in 1984 like Floyd in 2015, he would not be considered fighter of the decade. As some of his most important fights came after his 1984 retirement, and so the decade would have probably gone to either Hagler or Cesar Chavez

So if fighter of the decade is based on the consistency of fighting at a high level throughout the decade I would still go for someone like Pacquiao

If it's for dominance over your peers I would go for Ward

If it's based on titles it would have to be Canelo

[jujigatame]

1) Canelo
2) Spence
3) Everyone else

Nobody else is really in the discussion.

[margaret thatcher]

1) Canelo
2) Spence
3) Everyone else

Nobody else is really in the discussion.

What about Josh Taylor, beat two solid unbeaten champs to unify

[jujigatame]

1) Canelo
2) Spence
3) Everyone else

Nobody else is really in the discussion.

What about Josh Taylor, beat two solid unbeaten champs to unify

Baranchyk was a paper champ who had just won a vacant title against another fringe contender. I think Taylor is a great fighter but I think Canelo's wins were bigger by a pretty wide margin.

[margaret thatcher]

Spence way ahead of JT too? I mean Mikey was a bit of a midget tbh...

[jujigatame]

I mean yea, personally I would say Mikey > Baranchyk and Porter > Prograis. But I guess by lesser margins.

[IKSRTFO]

Bit difficult to give it to Mayweather when he was only active for half the decade.

If only the pro ranks are being consider it probably makes sense to give it to Pacquiao as the decade runs from 01-01-2010 to 31-12-2019

Fair point, but Mayweather's wins were significant enough to give whole decade kudos.

He easily outclassed Alvarez and Pacquiao who are two other contenders for the decade.

It's hard to look past Mayweather.

Andre Ward is my voite

[margaret thatcher]

I mean yea, personally I would say Mikey > Baranchyk and Porter > Prograis. But I guess by lesser margins.

Mikey would've been more interesting in that tournament than as a flabby midget vs big welters

[jujigatame]

Can't argue with you there.

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You don't have to compete throughout the whole decade to be considered.

Sugar Ray Leonard is a classic example; he was the fighter of the 80s in some quarters, yet he was inactive for much of the decade.

He only had 12 fights throughout the 1980s, but crucially, some of them were huge all-time significant bouts & he won most of them.

I think that is a really nice argument, but if it is a way of supporting Mayweather's place as number 1, I would counter that by saying one or two things:

First, Leonard, though he retired twice, he did fight from beginning to the end of the decade
and as you point out it was against the very best in epic fights to assert his dominance.

Second, If Leonard had stayed retired after 8 fights in 1984 like Floyd in 2015, he would not be considered fighter of the decade. As some of his most important fights came after his 1984 retirement, and so the decade would have probably gone to either Hagler or Cesar Chavez

So if fighter of the decade is based on the consistency of fighting at a high level throughout the decade I would still go for someone like Pacquiao

If it's for dominance over your peers I would go for Ward

If it's based on titles it would have to be Canelo

You've got me thinking now.

Ward is a good shout.

I'd kind of overlooked him, somewhat surprisingly, but he is a definite contender.

[Onetimeonly]

I think that is a really nice argument, but if it is a way of supporting Mayweather's place as number 1, I would counter that by saying one or two things:

First, Leonard, though he retired twice, he did fight from beginning to the end of the decade
and as you point out it was against the very best in epic fights to assert his dominance.

Second, If Leonard had stayed retired after 8 fights in 1984 like Floyd in 2015, he would not be considered fighter of the decade. As some of his most important fights came after his 1984 retirement, and so the decade would have probably gone to either Hagler or Cesar Chavez

So if fighter of the decade is based on the consistency of fighting at a high level throughout the decade I would still go for someone like Pacquiao

If it's for dominance over your peers I would go for Ward

If it's based on titles it would have to be Canelo

You've got me thinking now.

Ward is a good shout.

I'd kind of overlooked him, somewhat surprisingly, but he is a definite contender.

Kind of getting in his own way there, Ward fought in the same number of years in the decade that Floyd did. He wasn't as dominant and Floyd schooled two of the top 5 guys as well as Cotto and Mosley. Like I said, agendas make it easy to try, the substance is never there.

[apollo creed]

Andy Ruiz Jr. The first mexican HW champion.

[man]

ruiz

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Alvarez for me too.

Also got to consider the fighter of the decade.

That's Floyd by a mile.

Personally I think Canelo edges it. Either way, there's no mile between.

[Onetimeonly]

That's Floyd by a mile.

Personally I think Canelo edges it. Either way, there's no mile between.

Reasonable choice. I thought Trout and Lara edged him, but neither was a robbery. The first GGG fight was and Floyd dominated him.

[squiggy]

Under the radar Navarette getting no love. 4-0 4 kos v 88-5 records. Should at least be discussed in p4p terms. . The kid is the real deal.

Also under the radar is Juan Francisco Estrada, who did a number on Srisaket Sor Rungvisai.

[squiggy]

Personally I think Canelo edges it. Either way, there's no mile between.

Reasonable choice. I thought Trout and Lara edged him, but neither was a robbery. The first GGG fight was and Floyd dominated him.

Well... I was trying to base it on official accomplishments only. Plain as day GGG outboxed him but what are you gonna do.

[Onetimeonly]

Reasonable choice. I thought Trout and Lara edged him, but neither was a robbery. The first GGG fight was and Floyd dominated him.

Well... I was trying to base it on official accomplishments only. Plain as day GGG outboxed him but what are you gonna do.

I don't count all losses as bad, but I'm never giving full credit for a clear loss.

[Finkel]

You've got me thinking now.

Ward is a good shout.

I'd kind of overlooked him, somewhat surprisingly, but he is a definite contender.

Kind of getting in his own way there, Ward fought in the same number of years in the decade that Floyd did. He wasn't as dominant and Floyd schooled two of the top 5 guys as well as Cotto and Mosley. Like I said, agendas make it easy to try, the substance is never there.

Yeah I know, I get the feeling you chose not to understand what I wrote because I didn't choose Mayweather.

If you want to pick based on dominance alone (i.e. ignoring they didn't complete the decade) then Ward who also finished undefeated and P4P#1 should be place before Mayweather.

Ward established himself as arguable the greatest Super Middleweight ever, dominated the devision outclassing a Prime Froch along the way. Then stepped up to Light Heavy and knocked off one of the boogiemen of boxing in Prime Kovalev twice (whether we like the style of victory or not).

Mayweather has some great wins in the first half of the decade, but let's be real here not many were in their prime. Ward takes the accolade for me based on the criteria you seem to be using to try to give your boy the nod.

[margaret thatcher]

Under the radar Navarette getting no love. 4-0 4 kos v 88-5 records. Should at least be discussed in p4p terms. . The kid is the real deal.

That Filipino guy who iced Zolani Titty had a strong 4-0 (4ko) year as well