Vasyl Lomachenko vs. Teofimo Lopez - October 17, 2020

Who wins?

Poll ended at 17 Oct 2020, 10:48

Lomachenko - Decision
58
53%
Lomachenko - T/KO
33
30%
DRAW
0
No votes
Lopez - T/KO
16
15%
Lopez - Decision
3
3%
 
Total votes: 110

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Vasyl Lomachenko has “agreement” on paper for Teofimo Lopez fight in April

Vasiliy ‘Hi-Tech’ Lomachenko has announced that he has an “agreement” on “paper” for a unification fight against IBF lightweight champion Teofimo Lopez in April 2020 for the undisputed 135-lb championship. Lomachenko, 31, states that the exact date and the venue for the Lopez (15-0, 12 KOs) fight has yet to be decided, but it WILL be taking place in April.

Lomachenko reveals agreement on paper with Teofimo for April

“I have a huge desire to enter the ring with him. We’ll meet in April,” said Lomachenko to LOMA Official TV on his unification fight with Teofimo. “The fight is going to take place. It depends not only on the manager, the promoter, but also on one boxer and the other boxer as well.

“On paper, there is an agreement that the match is going to happen, and it’s going to happen in April. However, they have not yet established a date. This fight is happening in April. I think that for them, it’s a win-win in any case,” said Lomachenko when asked if Top Rank supports Lopez or him.

“If I win, I confirm my title as the star of this promotion company. If I lose, they [Top Rank] got a new star, a mega-star. Not that they are supporting anyone. I’m not saying that. But I think from a business perspective, they would prefer Lopez, because he’s a more profitable figure,”
said Lomachenko.

Lopez beat Commey on “lucky punch” – Lomachenko

“I didn’t have enough time to fully understand what happened,” said Lomachenko to LOMA Official TV on Teofimo’s 2nd round knockout win over Commey. “But in the two rounds that I saw, I got the feeling that Lopez has problems and flaws in defense. In the first round, he managed to take so many of Commey’s punches, and many of those didn’t need to be taken.

“He [Lopez] could not get collected, and manage the distance he had to maintain,”
Lomachenko on Commey fight for Teofimo. “In the end, by some miracle, in the second round, he hit Commey and finished the fight. I think that if it hadn’t been for that lucky punch, because I call it a lucky punch for him, then we would have seen plenty of interesting things in the course of the fight. And I am not very impressionable as far as my future rival goes.

“I cannot be objective about it and say how much I was impressed by the knockout. He hit the target, he got a knockout, he won, and he won the world championship and got the [IBF] title. Of course, I counted on Commey to win, but so much the better, because this fight is made to be sold out,”
said Lomachenko.

Teofimo was hitting Commey with big shots from the 1st round, and there was nothing lucky about those shots landing. Lomachenko might be trying to mess with Lopez’s head by downgrading his performance, because it wasn’t a mistake that he beat Commey.

Lopez doesn’t possess the defensive skills that Lomachenko has, but he’s a knockout artist. That goes with the territory. Guys that look for knockouts tend to get hit a lot more than defensive fighters, who look to do the minimum to win.

Lomachenko says Commey had flaw in his defense

“Of course, we’ve had an example already,” Lomachenko said about how he was dropped by Jorge Linares. “We had a case where I took a hit, and relaxed on defense, and gained too much confidence too early, and believed too much in my victory, and relaxed my defense, for which I was immediately punished.

“Yes,”
said Lomachenko when asked if it was a flaw on Commey’s part to get knocked out by Lopez. “You know as they say, it’s the style that makes the fights. Here we had two different puncher’s styles, and in this fight [Lopez vs. Commey] someone definitely had to fall, and someone had to get the knockout,” Lomachenko said.

Lomachenko doesn’t see age as being an advantage for Teofimo

“Well, I never thought about it in those terms,” said Lomachenko when asked him being 32 and Lopez being 22. “Imagine if we talk about it that way, I was 10 and he was a newborn. Or I was 20, and won the Olympics, and he was 10 in junior boxing.

“Is he really 22-years-old? Wow, he talks as if he were 30 or even 40,”
said Lomachenko on Teofimo. “He talks very confidently, and he’s very sure of himself. Yes, I think it’ll be the first time,” said Lomachenko about it being the first time he’s faced someone 10 years younger than himself.

“It’s the first time I’ve thought about someone I boxed about how much younger or older they were than me,” Lomachnko continued about Lopez’s age difference to him. “I never paid attention to that. And I look at the boxer, and see what he can do in the ring. I watch what he does in the ring, and measure where my advantages and his advantages are. I never thought about age, said Loma about his age.

Lomachenko sounds like he’s a little bit in denial about his age being a potential factor in his fight against Lopez, as it could hurt him. With close to 400 amateur fights, Lomachenko has miles on him that make his age work against him in the Lopez fight. With close to 400 amateur fights, Lomachenko has miles on him that make his age work against him in the Lopez fight.

Lomachenko is trying to play off that his age isn’t a problem, but it might be. That’s even more reason for Lomachenko to try avoid getting caught in a war against the younger fighter, because he lacks the youth and the power to win that type of fight.

Teofimo will need to back up his talk – Lomachenko

“Now that you told me about it, it’s indeed interesting that I am 10 years older,” Lomachenko said in belaboring the point. “I think that’s going to be reflected in this fight. It’s almost like, you know, I study at the university, and he still goes to school. Now we have the moment of truth for them.

“I’m sure that they never think about it, and never think in those terms, that one must follow through on what one says,” said Lomachenko. I think they don’t attach much importance to that. but for me it’s the opposite. It’s going to be very interesting to box with him,”
said Lomachenko about his April fight with Lopez.

All the trash talking that Teofimo has done about Lomachenko clearly bothers him, since his past opponents haven’t done that. Gary Russell Jr. did some trash talking before his fight with Lomachenko in 2014, but Teofimo is expected to do far more.

Teofimo will have the spotlight on him heading into the Lomachenko fight, and everything he says will be echoed by the media. Lomachenko won’t be able to win the war of words against a guy like Lopez, because he’s good at cutting down his opponents.

Gervonta Davis fight interests Lomachenko at 135

“Now that he’s transferred into this category [135], we are all in equal conditions. Yes, that is correct, of course,” Lomachenko said when asked if a fight against Gervonta Davis is the most attractive one for him,” said Lomachenko.
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Vasiliy Lomachenko 1/4 (-400)
Teofimo Lopez 11/4 (+275)
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i hope it will be a great entertaining figh to watch. i like loma, because he takes risks, although he doesnt have to. with his superb footwork and skills he could just stay outside and do the floyd, stealing rounds, doing nothing, but a view precise shots and than just moving around. but he takes risks brings action.

loma wins by ud
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 23 Dec 2019, 10:45

Vasyl Lomachenko has “agreement” on paper for Teofimo Lopez fight in April

Vasiliy ‘Hi-Tech’ Lomachenko has announced that he has an “agreement” on “paper” for a unification fight against IBF lightweight champion Teofimo Lopez in April 2020 for the undisputed 135-lb championship. Lomachenko, 31, states that the exact date and the venue for the Lopez (15-0, 12 KOs) fight has yet to be decided, but it WILL be taking place in April.

Lomachenko reveals agreement on paper with Teofimo for April

“I have a huge desire to enter the ring with him. We’ll meet in April,” said Lomachenko to LOMA Official TV on his unification fight with Teofimo. “The fight is going to take place. It depends not only on the manager, the promoter, but also on one boxer and the other boxer as well.

“On paper, there is an agreement that the match is going to happen, and it’s going to happen in April. However, they have not yet established a date. This fight is happening in April. I think that for them, it’s a win-win in any case,” said Lomachenko when asked if Top Rank supports Lopez or him.

“If I win, I confirm my title as the star of this promotion company. If I lose, they [Top Rank] got a new star, a mega-star. Not that they are supporting anyone. I’m not saying that. But I think from a business perspective, they would prefer Lopez, because he’s a more profitable figure,”
said Lomachenko.

Lopez beat Commey on “lucky punch” – Lomachenko

“I didn’t have enough time to fully understand what happened,” said Lomachenko to LOMA Official TV on Teofimo’s 2nd round knockout win over Commey. “But in the two rounds that I saw, I got the feeling that Lopez has problems and flaws in defense. In the first round, he managed to take so many of Commey’s punches, and many of those didn’t need to be taken.

“He [Lopez] could not get collected, and manage the distance he had to maintain,”
Lomachenko on Commey fight for Teofimo. “In the end, by some miracle, in the second round, he hit Commey and finished the fight. I think that if it hadn’t been for that lucky punch, because I call it a lucky punch for him, then we would have seen plenty of interesting things in the course of the fight. And I am not very impressionable as far as my future rival goes.

“I cannot be objective about it and say how much I was impressed by the knockout. He hit the target, he got a knockout, he won, and he won the world championship and got the [IBF] title. Of course, I counted on Commey to win, but so much the better, because this fight is made to be sold out,”
said Lomachenko.

Teofimo was hitting Commey with big shots from the 1st round, and there was nothing lucky about those shots landing. Lomachenko might be trying to mess with Lopez’s head by downgrading his performance, because it wasn’t a mistake that he beat Commey.

Lopez doesn’t possess the defensive skills that Lomachenko has, but he’s a knockout artist. That goes with the territory. Guys that look for knockouts tend to get hit a lot more than defensive fighters, who look to do the minimum to win.

Lomachenko says Commey had flaw in his defense

“Of course, we’ve had an example already,” Lomachenko said about how he was dropped by Jorge Linares. “We had a case where I took a hit, and relaxed on defense, and gained too much confidence too early, and believed too much in my victory, and relaxed my defense, for which I was immediately punished.

“Yes,”
said Lomachenko when asked if it was a flaw on Commey’s part to get knocked out by Lopez. “You know as they say, it’s the style that makes the fights. Here we had two different puncher’s styles, and in this fight [Lopez vs. Commey] someone definitely had to fall, and someone had to get the knockout,” Lomachenko said.

Lomachenko doesn’t see age as being an advantage for Teofimo

“Well, I never thought about it in those terms,” said Lomachenko when asked him being 32 and Lopez being 22. “Imagine if we talk about it that way, I was 10 and he was a newborn. Or I was 20, and won the Olympics, and he was 10 in junior boxing.

“Is he really 22-years-old? Wow, he talks as if he were 30 or even 40,”
said Lomachenko on Teofimo. “He talks very confidently, and he’s very sure of himself. Yes, I think it’ll be the first time,” said Lomachenko about it being the first time he’s faced someone 10 years younger than himself.

“It’s the first time I’ve thought about someone I boxed about how much younger or older they were than me,” Lomachnko continued about Lopez’s age difference to him. “I never paid attention to that. And I look at the boxer, and see what he can do in the ring. I watch what he does in the ring, and measure where my advantages and his advantages are. I never thought about age, said Loma about his age.

Lomachenko sounds like he’s a little bit in denial about his age being a potential factor in his fight against Lopez, as it could hurt him. With close to 400 amateur fights, Lomachenko has miles on him that make his age work against him in the Lopez fight. With close to 400 amateur fights, Lomachenko has miles on him that make his age work against him in the Lopez fight.

Lomachenko is trying to play off that his age isn’t a problem, but it might be. That’s even more reason for Lomachenko to try avoid getting caught in a war against the younger fighter, because he lacks the youth and the power to win that type of fight.

Teofimo will need to back up his talk – Lomachenko

“Now that you told me about it, it’s indeed interesting that I am 10 years older,” Lomachenko said in belaboring the point. “I think that’s going to be reflected in this fight. It’s almost like, you know, I study at the university, and he still goes to school. Now we have the moment of truth for them.

“I’m sure that they never think about it, and never think in those terms, that one must follow through on what one says,” said Lomachenko. I think they don’t attach much importance to that. but for me it’s the opposite. It’s going to be very interesting to box with him,”
said Lomachenko about his April fight with Lopez.

All the trash talking that Teofimo has done about Lomachenko clearly bothers him, since his past opponents haven’t done that. Gary Russell Jr. did some trash talking before his fight with Lomachenko in 2014, but Teofimo is expected to do far more.

Teofimo will have the spotlight on him heading into the Lomachenko fight, and everything he says will be echoed by the media. Lomachenko won’t be able to win the war of words against a guy like Lopez, because he’s good at cutting down his opponents.

Gervonta Davis fight interests Lomachenko at 135

“Now that he’s transferred into this category [135], we are all in equal conditions. Yes, that is correct, of course,” Lomachenko said when asked if a fight against Gervonta Davis is the most attractive one for him,” said Lomachenko.
thank you for the effort. :TU:

loma is my favourite boxer.
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The class of all boxers alive both active and non-active, Lomachenko, will dismantle that delinquent child. Will be a professor against a student. Great entertainment and of course will buy it.
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Teo is explosive, has great timing and inventive... all things Loma has too, adding better athleticism and tons more of experience. No promising kid nowadays (Davis, Garcia, Haney) will not dethrone Lomachenko within three to five years.
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Lomachenko will outclass Lopez. No doubt about that. Lopez is good. Lomachenko is special.
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DrDuke wrote: 27 Dec 2019, 18:59 Lomachenko will outclass Lopez. No doubt about that. Lopez is good. Lomachenko is special.
I think Lopez has a shot at this.
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Lopez will win
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Looking forward to this one.
I'd like to see Lopez take it but hard not to pick Lomenchenko
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Nobody picked Lopez in poll? :o :o I am going in this with Lomachenko, but Lopez is one dangerous mofo, this will be thrilling fight :box: :box: :box:
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Lopez will get schooled by Loma. He may have a moment or two, but Loma is too slick and experienced for him.

Wasn't Lopez dragging his feet at first before fighting Commey? Maybe his confidence level has improved now.
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This is scary fight for Loma, Lopez can put Loma's lights out any time. Lopez got the fight with Japanese guy out of the way, re-tooled, got Joey Gamache to help him and beat Commey and is on the rise. Not a for sure win my Loma by any means, This is one of the two fights I eagerly look forward to in 2020 along with Fury vs Wilder, I actually want to see this more than Fury vs Wilder.
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It seem odd they would go right to this if Lopez lose then what. I will be suprised if Lopez doesn't have an in between fight.
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world ranked wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 17:15 It seem odd they would go right to this if Lopez lose then what. I will be suprised if Lopez doesn't have an in between fight.
If Lopez loses, he can come again. He’s young. Still should have the hunger.
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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 18:20
world ranked wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 17:15 It seem odd they would go right to this if Lopez lose then what. I will be suprised if Lopez doesn't have an in between fight.
If Lopez loses, he can come again. He’s young. Still should have the hunger.
He can always come again but the luster would surely be off. He would just be a good fighter as oppose to the rising star he is right now.
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world ranked wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 19:31
Ruthless-RKO wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 18:20

If Lopez loses, he can come again. He’s young. Still should have the hunger.
He can always come again but the luster would surely be off. He would just be a good fighter as oppose to the rising star he is right now.
Come on now, if one loss mentally destroys him then he’s in the wrong game. The biggest name in boxing, Canelo has a loss. Boxing should be about challenging yourself and then bettering yourself if you didn’t meet the challenge. A fighter can come back from a loss, stronger. AJ proved it, he looked great, Canelo proved it, Lomachenko proved it. If Lopez loses and learns from the experience he’s a more dangerous fighter than he ever was.
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lazboy wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 20:20
world ranked wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 19:31

He can always come again but the luster would surely be off. He would just be a good fighter as oppose to the rising star he is right now.
Come on now, if one loss mentally destroys him then he’s in the wrong game. The biggest name in boxing, Canelo has a loss. Boxing should be about challenging yourself and then bettering yourself if you didn’t meet the challenge. A fighter can come back from a loss, stronger. AJ proved it, he looked great, Canelo proved it, Lomachenko proved it. If Lopez loses and learns from the experience he’s a more dangerous fighter than he ever was.
99.9999% of all the ATG's lost a fight or two.
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Still though, a lot of fans these days, even hardcore fans who say losses aren't a biggie and that fighters should challenge themselves more, will turn on an a name guy and say after 1 loss that he was just a hype job or fraud, or that he's pretty much done. We have seen this recently too.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 20:46 Still though, a lot of fans these days, even hardcore fans who say losses aren't a biggie and that fighters should challenge themselves more, will turn on an a name guy and say after 1 loss that he was just a hype job or fraud, or that he's pretty much done. We have seen this recently too.
Losing to Loma isn't something that a fighter should be embarrassed about. It's not like Ruiz Jr. :D
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margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 20:46 Still though, a lot of fans these days, even hardcore fans who say losses aren't a biggie and that fighters should challenge themselves more, will turn on an a name guy and say after 1 loss that he was just a hype job or fraud, or that he's pretty much done. We have seen this recently too.
That’s fair enough but it’s also part of it. The person becomes a hype job and they need to mentally deal with it that negativity - much like how AJ dealt with it. I’m not saying it’s fair but seems to be the trend, then slowly they get their reputation back/vindicate themselves. Mostly if they were schooled does their rep really suffer. They build it up (if they can) and they’re hot again. As boxing it seems you are as good as your last fight.
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Time for loma to earn the status he's gifted.
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lazboy wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 21:18
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 20:46 Still though, a lot of fans these days, even hardcore fans who say losses aren't a biggie and that fighters should challenge themselves more, will turn on an a name guy and say after 1 loss that he was just a hype job or fraud, or that he's pretty much done. We have seen this recently too.
That’s fair enough but it’s also part of it. The person becomes a hype job and they need to mentally deal with it that negativity - much like how AJ dealt with it. I’m not saying it’s fair but seems to be the trend, then slowly they get their reputation back/vindicate themselves. Mostly if they were schooled does their rep really suffer. They build it up (if they can) and they’re hot again. As boxing it seems you are as good as your last fight.
AJ is the perfect person to compare with to Lopez if he loses to Loma. Joshua lost a lot of luster after the loss. Yes he beat Ruiz the second time but I don't think he will ever capture what he had before the loss. Can he be an ATG yes but the luster is clearly off. There are plenty more who where still great fighter but lost a lot of luster after loss. (Meldrick Taylor, RJJ, Mikkel Kessler, Adrien Broner, Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, Diego Corrales. Sergey Kovalev) just to name a few. Again a lot did come back and did good things but were never the same after the first loss.
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Ya, it's one of boxing's bigger hypocrisies and so many guys saying losses don't really matter has in reality not followed their own words. Heck, even to the point of saying a guy's career was finished in his 20s after just 1 loss following a career of being 1 in the division (and then lol a few months later the finished guy is unified champ again with an 11-1 win). Even the 'hardcore' fans who preach about losses not mattering and the need for fighters to take tougher fights will then come out with the exact response to a loss that makes it easy to see why guys are matched strategically to avoid Ls.

MMA fans are way better about losses and have a much healthier mindset for their sport.

I can just see it now....Loma, aka God, scrapes by with a close decision, and we here that young Teo was totally schooled and embarrassed. Though I think it's more likely that Teo beats Loma.
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lazboy wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 21:18
margaret thatcher wrote: 28 Dec 2019, 20:46 Still though, a lot of fans these days, even hardcore fans who say losses aren't a biggie and that fighters should challenge themselves more, will turn on an a name guy and say after 1 loss that he was just a hype job or fraud, or that he's pretty much done. We have seen this recently too.
That’s fair enough but it’s also part of it. The person becomes a hype job and they need to mentally deal with it that negativity - much like how AJ dealt with it. I’m not saying it’s fair but seems to be the trend, then slowly they get their reputation back/vindicate themselves. Mostly if they were schooled does their rep really suffer. They build it up (if they can) and they’re hot again. As boxing it seems you are as good as your last fight.
I'd think the ultimately fair response is to factor in what you observed into your views of the fighter, but certainly wait to see how they can rebound before becoming so negative about them. Problem is that so many people are impatient and just want to rush to judgment and of course totally forget everything but the last fight.

Recently we had people , some of whom preach the 'losses don't matter stuff', claim that AJ, only in his 20s, was already finished in his career just because of that 1 loss. That he was ruined, a hype job, and ready to retire. Ummm, seems like that 1 loss really meant a huge amount to them. It's hardly just him either, but he's a recent a high profile example.

And then just a couple months later he's unified champ again with an easy rematch win, lol.
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