Josh Taylor Trouble

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Grilling Machine wrote: 02 Jan 2020, 17:26 It just sounds to me like he doesn't take his drink too well, and he's feeling aggrieved that he's not more famous in his own ends. Rather than small-man syndrome (as others have said — he's average-sized), I imagine he's thinking “I could smash the lot of yous. If you knew who I am you'd show me respect”. But to the average doorman who watches UFC and not boxing, he's another common or garden prick.

My main takeaway is that boxers aren't as renowned as they used to be.
Taylor will be extremely well known in Edinburgh.
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liamlion wrote: 02 Jan 2020, 12:43
Coco wrote: 02 Jan 2020, 11:39

The funny thing is I worked on the door for years in Swansea and got more abuse than you can imagine. Being small for a doorman and being English those were the main insults thrown at me!
My colleagues on the other hand all got abused too, steroid head, fat, ugly, pretty boy, valleys boy. Moreover there were a couple who hit the sunbeds hard who had a lot of abuse for being orange!!
You realise quite quickly that a drunk/drugged up fella chucks the first insult that comes into his head and it means little.
Of course these days particular insults can put you in legal problems.
I remember once years back a right div of a bouncer wouldn't let me in a pub, then tried to play the hard man with me. I really wanted to fight him but he melted quickly so while still in need of releasing some adrenaline, he started chucked some racial insults at him(he was a black guy).
I later really beat myself up about it, still feel bad today to be honest, because I'm not at all racist so I really had let myself down. I wasn't even drunk, just angry, the fella deserved a dig, he was a div but I just came out with the first insults that came into my head and in doing so made a real c#nt of myself.
It’s a derogatory terms for a Protestant as in orange order. Very common behaviour in Scotland and the north of Ireland. Trust me, it’s a got feck all to do with sun beds. Taylor is a big Hibernian fan which is supported predominantly by the catholics in and around Edinburgh, a bit like Celtic in Glasgow. Hibernian translates in Latin to Ireland. Taylor’s comment was religiously meant.

Same behaviour....
I was at a game where he spat on a Gers scarf someone had dropped. He fuckin hates us and it seeps outta him. Meant to be a nice guy away from football so i've been told.
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Stuarty wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 11:41
liamlion wrote: 02 Jan 2020, 12:43

It’s a derogatory terms for a Protestant as in orange order. Very common behaviour in Scotland and the north of Ireland. Trust me, it’s a got feck all to do with sun beds. Taylor is a big Hibernian fan which is supported predominantly by the catholics in and around Edinburgh, a bit like Celtic in Glasgow. Hibernian translates in Latin to Ireland. Taylor’s comment was religiously meant.

Same behaviour....
I was at a game where he spat on a Gers scarf someone had dropped. He fuckin hates us and it seeps outta him. Meant to be a nice guy away from football so i've been told.
Fenians tend to. I’m one of them. I too hate everything that club stands for. Scotland’s shame. Plus youd know the bile he’s received over the years and he’s really only giving back what he receives in that video, however ill-advised his actions were.
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liamlion wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 15:35
Stuarty wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 11:41

I was at a game where he spat on a Gers scarf someone had dropped. He fuckin hates us and it seeps outta him. Meant to be a nice guy away from football so i've been told.
Fenians tend to. I’m one of them. I too hate everything that club stands for. Scotland’s shame. Plus youd know the bile he’s received over the years and he’s really only giving back what he receives in that video, however ill-advised his actions were.
The feelings mutual bro :TU:
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This reminds me of Pat Clinton fighting Perez way back in 91 or 92. He was training with Celtic and the Rangers fans were backing Perez.
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Noxy wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 15:42 This reminds me of Pat Clinton fighting Perez way back in 91 or 92. He was training with Celtic and the Rangers fans were backing Perez.
Yeah i know a lot of Gers fans who never cared for Harrison or Burns because of their footballing allegiances. It's never bothered me tbh. I was a fan of both and spent plenty of hard earned dough going to watch both over the years. It would be the same if a boxer came out as a diehard Gers man, a lot from the green half of the city would want to see him chinned lol. Just the way things are here unfortunately. That being said, i don't know why any sportsman would parade their belts or trophies at ibrox or Parkhead! You're potentially halving your fanbase lol...
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Stuarty wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 15:39
liamlion wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 15:35

Fenians tend to. I’m one of them. I too hate everything that club stands for. Scotland’s shame. Plus youd know the bile he’s received over the years and he’s really only giving back what he receives in that video, however ill-advised his actions were.
The feelings mutual bro :TU:
Good man! No rivalry like it :salut:
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liamlion wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 16:08
Stuarty wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 15:39

The feelings mutual bro :TU:
Good man! No rivalry like it :salut:
True. Me and my close mates can't even sit and watch it together and we've been mates for 25-30 years :lol: :lol:
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Stuarty wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 16:14
liamlion wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 16:08

Good man! No rivalry like it :salut:
True. Me and my close mates can't even sit and watch it together and we've been mates for 25-30 years :lol: :lol:
Yeah, a few verbals and a bit of spite is harmless. Nothing too serious and hopefully the proper dark days have been left behind.
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I've always hated the ridiculously tribal nature of football, the hating of opposing supporters over an arbitrary affiliation with a team, either through dint of birthplace, heredity, or simple choice.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 17:13 I've always hated the ridiculously tribal nature of football, the hating of opposing supporters over an arbitrary affiliation with a team, either through dint of birthplace, heredity, or simple choice.
The old firm is quite unique. Cultural and religious division that goes back centuries. The same feud was central to a civil war in Ireland for hundreds of years, where many people lost their lives as a consequence. It’s a rivalry that means a lot and there is nothing like it in England.
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 17:13 I've always hated the ridiculously tribal nature of football, the hating of opposing supporters over an arbitrary affiliation with a team, either through dint of birthplace, heredity, or simple choice.
Same. I’ve never been able to understand it, I’m a big football fan but only care about my team, couldn’t give a toss about any other teams or how well they do.
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Good, its toxic. You lads can keep it.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 17:44
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 17:13 I've always hated the ridiculously tribal nature of football, the hating of opposing supporters over an arbitrary affiliation with a team, either through dint of birthplace, heredity, or simple choice.
Same. I’ve never been able to understand it, I’m a big football fan but only care about my team, couldn’t give a toss about any other teams or how well they do.
What about football managers?
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To be fair, I think football has improved a fair bit. It used to be a lot less family friendly.
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Noxy wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 18:01
Boxerbeetle wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 17:44

Same. I’ve never been able to understand it, I’m a big football fan but only care about my team, couldn’t give a toss about any other teams or how well they do.
What about football managers?
Hmmm, I do like to follow the careers of managers & players who’ve previously been at my club. Don’t much care how they get on though, just interested really.
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I doubt that the tribal nature of football is any different from the tribal nature of politics or religion. Just us insecure people wanting meaning and a yearning to belong to something more than ourselves.
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As for Josh .... silly boy.... he may or may not grow up.
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Boxerbeetle wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 17:44
jamesmcdonnell wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 17:13 I've always hated the ridiculously tribal nature of football, the hating of opposing supporters over an arbitrary affiliation with a team, either through dint of birthplace, heredity, or simple choice.
Same. I’ve never been able to understand it, I’m a big football fan but only care about my team, couldn’t give a toss about any other teams or how well they do.
Didn’t you do a bit of jail for Cardiff?
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mickey1975 wrote: 04 Jan 2020, 05:03
Boxerbeetle wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 17:44

Same. I’ve never been able to understand it, I’m a big football fan but only care about my team, couldn’t give a toss about any other teams or how well they do.
Didn’t you do a bit of jail for Cardiff?
Nope, probably one of our few fans who hasn’t :lol:
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jamesmcdonnell wrote: 03 Jan 2020, 17:13 I've always hated the ridiculously tribal nature of football, the hating of opposing supporters over an arbitrary affiliation with a team, either through dint of birthplace, heredity, or simple choice.
It's for simpletons
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Must be due to announce his next opponent this month or next?
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Shhhh wrote: 04 Jan 2020, 12:05 So is orange racist or not
No.

It's sectarian
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Shhhh wrote: 04 Jan 2020, 12:05 So is orange racist or not
As said above, it’s not racist but is sectarian (hate based on religion). However I think I read that the bouncer involved was asian and so I’m guessing the obvious comments of a racial nature were made and directed at the bouncer.
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liamlion wrote: 04 Jan 2020, 16:33
Shhhh wrote: 04 Jan 2020, 12:05 So is orange racist or not
As said above, it’s not racist but is sectarian (hate based on religion). However I think I read that the bouncer involved was asian and so I’m guessing the obvious comments of a racial nature were made and directed at the bouncer.
That doesn't makes any sense though for him to racially abuse an Asian by calling them orange. I've never heard that one before
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