Josh Taylor signs with arum.

[Enlightened-One]

You need to lean how to perform research…

Lamont Peterson was the WBA world welterweight champion when he fought Errol Spence Jr. and he hadn’t campaigned at 140lbs for 3½ years.

When Chris Algieri faced Errol Spence Jr., he hadn’t campaigned at 140lbs for two years and he had previously faced the likes of Manny Pacquiao and Amir Khan at welterweight.

The Mikey Garcia fight for Errol Spence Jr. was a one-off, but at least 'The Truth' was receiving a career-high payday to headline a PPV event in order to face an unbeaten four-weight world champion that previously faced ten world champions, as well as having engaged in eight world title bouts.

Anyway, you're missing the point. Bob Arum is essentially planning to pit Crawford against the biggest name 140lb-ers, because he can't or won't try to make fights against any of the PBC welterweights.

No, he's pitting Crawford against (1) of the biggest name 140lbers. Crawford has not fought another legit 140lber since moving up.

"Arum Sees Ramirez, Taylor, Prograis as Future Crawford Foes"

"All of these junior welterweights like Josh Taylor, like Jose Ramirez, like (Regis) Prograis will be moving up to the welterweight and those are great opponents for Terence Crawford," Arum told BS.com and a small group of reporters.

[IKSRTFO]

No, he's pitting Crawford against (1) of the biggest name 140lbers. Crawford has not fought another legit 140lber since moving up.

"Arum Sees Ramirez, Taylor, Prograis as Future Crawford Foes"

"All of these junior welterweights like Josh Taylor, like Jose Ramirez, like (Regis) Prograis will be moving up to the welterweight and those are great opponents for Terence Crawford," Arum told BS.com and a small group of reporters.

Two.

Still not as many as Spence has faced.

[Enlightened-One]

"Arum Sees Ramirez, Taylor, Prograis as Future Crawford Foes"

"All of these junior welterweights like Josh Taylor, like Jose Ramirez, like (Regis) Prograis will be moving up to the welterweight and those are great opponents for Terence Crawford," Arum told BS.com and a small group of reporters.

Two.

Still not as many as Spence has faced.

Jose Ramirez, Josh Taylor and Regis Prograis are all 140lb-ers, are they not? That's three names Crawford will be facing in the future.

How many inexperienced 147lb-ers (as in, fighters that usually campaign in lower weight classes) has Errol Spence Jr. faced during the course of his title reign?

I can only think of one name..

And to be fair, the Mikey Garcia fight for Errol Spence Jr. was a one-off, but at least 'The Truth' was receiving a career-high payday to headline a PPV event in order to face an unbeaten four-weight world champion that previously faced ten world champions, as well as having engaged in eight world title bouts.

[IKSRTFO]

Two.

Still not as many as Spence has faced.

Jose Ramirez, Josh Taylor and Regis Prograis are all 140lb-ers, are they not? That's three names Crawford will be facing in the future.

How many inexperienced 147lb-ers (as in, fighters that usually campaign in lower weight classes) has Errol Spence Jr. faced during the course of his title reign?

I can only think of one name..

And to be fair, the Mikey Garcia fight for Errol Spence Jr. was a one-off, but at least 'The Truth' was receiving a career-high payday to headline a PPV event in order to face an unbeaten four-weight world champion that previously faced ten world champions, as well as having engaged in eight world title bouts.

Mikey Garcia
Chris Algeri
Lamont Peterson - Only weighed more than 146 once when he fought Spence

And Taylor, Ramirez or Prograis would be undefeated going into a Crawford fight.

You talk about undefeated, Crawford has taken more 0s than Spence could dream about.

[Enlightened-One]

Jose Ramirez, Josh Taylor and Regis Prograis are all 140lb-ers, are they not? That's three names Crawford will be facing in the future.

How many inexperienced 147lb-ers (as in, fighters that usually campaign in lower weight classes) has Errol Spence Jr. faced during the course of his title reign?

I can only think of one name..

And to be fair, the Mikey Garcia fight for Errol Spence Jr. was a one-off, but at least 'The Truth' was receiving a career-high payday to headline a PPV event in order to face an unbeaten four-weight world champion that previously faced ten world champions, as well as having engaged in eight world title bouts.

Mikey Garcia
Chris Algeri
Lamont Peterson - Only weighed more than 146 once when he fought Spence

You need to learn how to read the posts you quote!!!

In terms of Mikey Garcia, read the above!!!

You've also quoted posts of mine that explained the following about Peterson and Algieri!

Lamont Peterson was the WBA world welterweight champion when he fought Errol Spence Jr. and he hadn’t campaigned at 140lbs for 3½ years.

When Chris Algieri faced Errol Spence Jr., he hadn’t campaigned at 140lbs for two years and he had previously faced the likes of Manny Pacquiao and Amir Khan at welterweight. 'The Truth' was merely a contender/prospect when he faced Algieri.

Finally, to prove that you can't read, here's the actual question!!!

How many inexperienced 147lb-ers (as in, fighters that usually campaign in lower weight classes) has Errol Spence Jr. faced during the course of his title reign?

[IKSRTFO]

Mikey Garcia
Chris Algeri
Lamont Peterson - Only weighed more than 146 once when he fought Spence

You need to learn how to read the posts you quote!!!

In terms of Mikey Garcia, read the above!!!

You've also quoted posts of mine that explained the following about Peterson and Algieri!

Lamont Peterson was the WBA world welterweight champion when he fought Errol Spence Jr. and he hadn’t campaigned at 140lbs for 3½ years.

When Chris Algieri faced Errol Spence Jr., he hadn’t campaigned at 140lbs for two years and he had previously faced the likes of Manny Pacquiao and Amir Khan at welterweight. 'The Truth' was merely a contender/prospect when he faced Algieri.

Finally, to prove that you can't read, here's the actual question!!!

How many inexperienced 147lb-ers (as in, fighters that usually campaign in lower weight classes) has Errol Spence Jr. faced during the course of his title reign?

They're all blown up 140lbers.

[Enlightened-One]

They're all blown up 140lbers.

Thank you for conceding defeat.

[Onetimeonly]

[Counter-puncher]

i recall EO saying that Alvarez wasn't actually fighting blown-up fighters at all (like Lopez and Matthew Hatton, who literally never fought at the 154lb weight before or since fighting Canelo), because... well, i forget the logic, it was sh1tty, but it was cute. the points i took away from the experience were that EO (1) sometimes struggles with concepts around weight classes, but mainly (2) he really, really struggles with them when he is bending over backwards to either fellate someone he loves, or criticise someone he hates.

[apollo creed]

It's not a problem that the top 140'bers want to move up at 147lbs and Crawford wants to fight them. Nothing wrong with that.
The thing is that out there are some established ww fighters that fought each other at the top level and they have top experience at 147 lbs. Why not test your skills against those guys?!

Also it would be reckless for Prograis, Taylor or Ramirez to fight straight up Crawford at 147lbs. They would need to have some decent accommodation fights first at 147lbs.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

My favorite promotion does it so its a one off and ok. Your promotion does it and its bad

Spence has a much better 147 resume than Crawford but its not like he has cleaned out the division. Great wins over porter and brook. Hopefully more big fights to come

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

It's not a problem that the top 140'bers want to move up at 147lbs and Crawford wants to fight them. Nothing wrong with that.
The thing is that out there are some established ww fighters that fought each other at the top level and they have top experience at 147 lbs. Why not test your skills against those guys?!

Also it would be reckless for Prograis, Taylor or Ramirez to fight straight up Crawford at 147lbs. They would need to have some decent accommodation fights first at 147lbs.

These guys were all welterweights in boxings heydey... is it really reckless to move up a weight class? Was canelo reckless or roy jones or hopkins?

[ewenhay]

Absolutely.

I'd rather watch that than Crawford against the likes of Danny Garcia who is barely relevant these days. Also, Taylor is a big lww and will surely fight at welter soon.

A fighter like Terence Crawford cannot establish a legacy at welterweight by competing against 140lb-ers like Ramirez, Taylor and Prograis.

I’m sorry if my words deeply offend you guys, but perhaps I’m a bit too "old skool" for your liking, because I feel that world champions at welterweight should predominantly compete against established 147lb-ers.

Perhaps I’m being unreasonable? Maybe we should ignore weight classes altogether and allow AJ to defend his titles against cruiserweights?

Perhaps you'd rather ignore the fact that Crawford previously fought at lww and came up in weight himself. And that the vast majority of guys who have been top class WW in the last decade also came up through the weights?

If you'd been posting here in the 80s you would have criticised just about every fight between Hagler, Hearns, Leonard and Duran.

[margaret thatcher]

So Lamont Peterson had been at WW for like 2 years? But I mean, a guy like Lem had been at MW for 7 years and you still counted him as undersized when discussing GGG. Wonkily applied standards much?

EO previously...lol check out the difference in tone

It seems that GGG has a penchant for competing against smaller guys that had previously and relatively recently competed in lower weight classes, such as these fighters he faced from the time he initially became a world champion:

• Nilson Julio Tapia (light middleweight)
• Milton Nunez (light middleweight)
• Kassim Ouma (light middleweight)
• Gabriel Rosado (light middleweight)
• Nobuhiro Ishida (light middleweight)
• Matthew Macklin (welterweight)
• Osumanu Adama (light middleweight)
• Marco Antonio Rubio (welterweight)
• Willie Monroe Jr. (light middleweight)
• David Lemieux (light middleweight)
• Kell Brook (welterweight)
• Canelo (light welterweight)
• Vanes Martirosyan (light middleweight)
• Jaime Munguia (light welterweight)

We know for certain that GGG has been competing at 165lbs as an amateur and 160lbs as a pro for more than sixteen years, which means he’s not a “small” middleweight by any means. Gennadiy is also taller than the average height of the opponents he’s faced from the start of his world title reign onwards.

I‘m probably going to receive a lot of hate for this post, but the above facts are impossible to refute. Please, just take a quick look at each of these guys resumes' prior to facing GGG and you'll surely appreciate the legitimacy of the point I'm making.

For almost a decade we’ve been hearing about stories relating to how GGG busted up Sergey Kovalev and also world-rated cruiserweights in sparring and that Golovkin is willing to face the very best from the heavier weight classes, but Gennadiy’s team have never attempted to justify this hype by proving it inside the ring.

And GGG bullying another smaller guy during his next outing isn’t going enhance his legacy one iota.

I’ve always been a huge fan of GGG’s pugilistic talents, but I really can’t endorse this potential bout.

I’m sorry, but enough is enough! We can’t keep applauding GGG and pretending that he can do no wrong, because if this fight really does come to fruition, then the self-managed, self-promoted Golovkin will be solely responsible for this farce!

[Counter-puncher]

[margaret thatcher]

Other guys on that list

Macklin fighting pretty much at middleweight for almost 10 years when he faced GGG, hadn't been lighter in 7 years, yet he still got the small treatment. Why no 2 year exemption for him

Rubio had been fighting at MW or higher for 8 years

Osumanu for 7 years

Monroe turned pro at MW and spent 7 years there going into the GGG fight, but OMG 1 random fight in 2008 at 153.75!!! Put em on the tiny list

Canelo I know EO loves FACTS. Well facts are he had fought 6 of his last 7 fights in the MW division or above going into the GGG fight

GGG never even faced Munguia

But ya, guys like Algeiri put in 2 years and get vehemently defended

[lazboy]

Thatcher
I’ll vote for you.

[apollo creed]

Other guys on that list

Macklin He had been fighting pretty much at middleweight for almost 10 years when he faced GGG, yet he still got the small treatment. Why no 2 year exemption for him

Rubio had been fighting at MW or higher for 8 years

Osumanu for 7 years

Monroe turned pro at MW and spent 7 years there going into the GGG fight, but OMG 1 random fight in 2008 at 153.75!!! Put em on the tiny list

Canelo I know EO loves FACTS. Well facts are he had fought 6 of his last 7 fights in the MW division or above going into the GGG fight

GGG never even faced Munguia

But ya, guys like Algeiri put in 2 years and get vehemently defended

Ouch!

EO got busted right here by margo!lol

Now EO is preparing his long twisted posts that are his speciality. He's a relentless online lunatic!

[Counter-puncher]

[Counter-puncher]

[Counter-puncher]

Munguia!!! Nice ‘FACTS’ EO!

[lazboy]

Erroneous One.

[Enlightened-One]

So Lamont Peterson had been at WW for like 2 years? But I mean, a guy like Lem had been at MW for 7 years and you still counted him as undersized when discussing GGG. Wonkily applied standards much?

EO previously...lol check out the difference in tone

It seems that GGG has a penchant for competing against smaller guys that had previously and relatively recently competed in lower weight classes, such as these fighters he faced from the time he initially became a world champion:

• Nilson Julio Tapia (light middleweight)
• Milton Nunez (light middleweight)
• Kassim Ouma (light middleweight)
• Gabriel Rosado (light middleweight)
• Nobuhiro Ishida (light middleweight)
• Matthew Macklin (welterweight)
• Osumanu Adama (light middleweight)
• Marco Antonio Rubio (welterweight)
• Willie Monroe Jr. (light middleweight)
• David Lemieux (light middleweight)
• Kell Brook (welterweight)
• Canelo (light welterweight)
• Vanes Martirosyan (light middleweight)

We know for certain that GGG has been competing at 165lbs as an amateur and 160lbs as a pro for more than sixteen years, which means he’s not a “small” middleweight by any means. Gennadiy is also taller than the average height of the opponents he’s faced from the start of his world title reign onwards.

I‘m probably going to receive a lot of hate for this post, but the above facts are impossible to refute. Please, just take a quick look at each of these guys resumes' prior to facing GGG and you'll surely appreciate the legitimacy of the point I'm making.

For almost a decade we’ve been hearing about stories relating to how GGG busted up Sergey Kovalev and also world-rated cruiserweights in sparring and that Golovkin is willing to face the very best from the heavier weight classes, but Gennadiy’s team have never attempted to justify this hype by proving it inside the ring.

And GGG bullying another smaller guy during his next outing isn’t going enhance his legacy one iota.

I’ve always been a huge fan of GGG’s pugilistic talents, but I really can’t endorse this potential bout.

I’m sorry, but enough is enough! We can’t keep applauding GGG and pretending that he can do no wrong, because if this fight really does come to fruition, then the self-managed, self-promoted Golovkin will be solely responsible for this farce!

Lamont Peterson was the WBA world welterweight champion and had been campaigning at 147lbs for three and a half years prior to the Spence Jr. bout.

Golovkin regularly fought smaller guys that competed in lower weight classes.

The same cannot be said about Errol Spence Jr.

Your reading comprehension seems pretty poor to me.

[Enlightened-One]

Munguia!!! Nice ‘FACTS’ EO!

The quote was taken from a thread discussing a potential GGG bout against Munguia:

viewtopic.php?f=22&t=231803&p=5194872&h ... g#p5194872

Context.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

That was hard to watch... green ko codrington

I like how he totally discards horn beause of his gift decision.... doesnt mention the gift Peterson got against felix diaz because it boosts crawford