tim tszyu

[australiahere]

want's a world title shot in 2020

[Axl]

That would require Tim to fight someone in the top 100 rankings, ain't gonna happen.

[australiahere]

That would require Tim to fight someone in the top 100 rankings, ain't gonna happen.

we all still wish him the best

[australiahere]

apparently tim want's too take on and beat australia's best Jeff the hornet and then conquer the world

[ninetypercent]

Should be a good fight if it comes off. Should also be a good earner for both Horn and Tszyu

[australiahere]

his father had it all, wouldn't know where too begin, the list would be endless but all the best for the little tszyu

[australiahere]

a quick google search say's



Jeff Horn and Tim Tszyu blockbuster bout set for Perth

Horn hit out for the first time since his stunning victory over Michael Zerafa in Brisbane on December 18 and the former schoolteacher said he was ready to teach Tszyu a painful lesson.

1 hour ago

[australiahere]

i'll make a new thread if i see the fight listed on boxrec

[convict]

So Horn wants a 10 round fight with a rematch cluse for the fight with Tim to go ahead. Tim wants 12 rounds no rematch.
What a joke Horn and his team have become.

[ninetypercent]

Not sure I agree. Is the fight a title fight. Why wouldn't Horns team want a ten rounder if it's to their fighters advantage.

Lots of contracts have rematch clauses and sometimes they work out well. Just ask Anthony Joshua or Jeff Horn. In the real world this is just a business negotiation so I don't see the joke.

In that context I don't blame Tszyu's team for wanting a twelve rounder for a non title fight.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Not sure I agree. Is the fight a title fight. Why wouldn't Horns team want a ten rounder if it's to their fighters advantage.

Lots of contracts have rematch clauses and sometimes they work out well. Just ask Anthony Joshua or Jeff Horn. In the real world this is just a business negotiation so I don't see the joke.

In that context I don't blame Tszyu's team for wanting a twelve rounder for a non title fight.

If it's a big fight for a belt, then fair enough, rematch clause.

Horn should just prepare. Tszuyu's team clearly want to do a 'one and done'.. fight him once, win/lose/draw move on.
Horn is already getting 60-40 in his favour. He thinks Tszuyu will do a Zerafa job on him.

Horn should be the more experienced, why not ahve a 12 rounder? He clearly isn't confident.

Tszuyu has been 10 round distance twice. Has been in two scheduled 12 rounders, but non gone past round 4.

[margaret thatcher]

Ya, reeks of Horny not being confident

[Grant]

So Horn wants a 10 round fight with a rematch cluse for the fight with Tim to go ahead. Tim wants 12 rounds no rematch.
What a joke Horn and his team have become.

I hate rematch clauses. This type of thing keeps others out of the title picture. You can have two fighters just fighting each other for years. It is a restraint of trade in my humble opinion.

[ninetypercent]

Yeah I don't think much of rematch clauses either but two fighters fighting each other for years . I still don't see the validation for Tszyu's demand for twelve round non title fights. Maybe a compromise is a ten rounder with no rematch clauses.

In other words a stock standard main event.

[margaret thatcher]

Horn is the more experienced guy, why is he worried about a couple extra rounds? It all just stinks of his side not being confident in their man

[australiahere]

just heard the radio talking about the fight

tim want's 12 round's
jeff want's 10 round's

[Beltane]

Still a lot of argy-bargy going on before this one is signed off from reading what was reported in the Daily Tele below:

The planned Jeff Horn-Tim Tszyu superfight is a major step closer to being finalised after a key sticking point was resolved.

Negotiations for the bout had stalled recently because Horn had demanded a rematch clause in the contract, while Tszyu did not.

But Horn has backtracked on his rematch demands, allowing the camps to move forward with talks for the multimillion dollar fight to take place in April.

“The rematch is fine, if they don’t want to do the rematch, I’m happy not doing a rematch,” Horn said in Sydney on Wednesday.

However, Horn will only agree to Tszyu’s demands for a 12-round fight if he gets more of the money, currently split 60-40 in his favour.

“There’s speed bumps in the road that are holding it up, we’re definitely not agreeing to a couple of things,” Horn said.

“He wants the fight to go 12 rounds. All I’ve got to say to that is, ‘That’s why I want to do 10 because he can pay me more to do 12 if he wants and we can do the 70-30 split’.

“Normally in the last few fights I’ve had, I’ve had a rematch clause because I’ve been the ‘A’ side.

“I’ve got the belts, he wants those ranking points, that’s why I wanted the rematch clause.

“I think there’ll be a breakthrough, I’m willing to do more rounds if he wants to make the split more, so he can have his way.”

Horn panned his previous rival Michael Zerafa, who he defeated in a brutal bout last December, for potentially negotiating a fight against Anthony Mundine.

“I think it’s a little bit ridiculous that they might be having a fight, Zerafa called me out so many times about fighting has-beens, then the first chance he’s got is with Mundine and he’s trying to pick a fight with him, go figure,” Horn said.

He also ended any talk of a third fight against Zerafa.

“I’ve got no interest in fighting Zerafa again, I’ve fought him twice already, I thought I’d only have to fight him once but had to rematch him, actually trained properly for the second one and got that win.

“It would be a struggle for me to listen to him about what he’s got to say about me.”

[margaret thatcher]

just heard the radio talking about the fight

tim want's 10 round's
jeff want's 12 round's

Nope, other way around, it's Horn's own words that he wants 10 and Timmeh wants 12

[australiahere]

just heard the radio talking about the fight

tim want's 10 round's
jeff want's 12 round's

Nope, other way around, it's Horn's own words that he wants 10 and Timmeh wants 12

oh ok, thank's margaret thatcher i just edited and corrected the post

[Ruthless-RKO]

Jeff Horn To Budge on Rematch Clause, Wants Tszyu To Take Deal

Former WBO welterweight champion Jeff Horn is willing to to budge on one of the two negotiating points to finalize a deal to fight unbeaten rising star Tim Tszyu.

The two sides had agreed on a 60-40 split in terms of the money and they are targeting a date of April 18, in what would be the biggest clash on Australian soil in years.

But they were haggling on two items - Horn wanted a rematch clause and a ten round distance. Tszyu wanted no rematch clause and a twelve round distance.

Horn is willing to walk away from the rematch clause, but he's not going to budge on the contest being a twelve round bout - unless Tszyu's handlers offer up more money in his direction.

He is urging Tszyu to take the current terms to make the fight happen.

"If they want to make it a 12-rounder, they will have to pay me more," Horn said to WA Today. "If I was getting offered this type of fight at the stage of the career Tim is in, I’d be jumping at a 70-30 split. Even if it was 80-20, I’d be raring at the bit at trying to get it.

"I was exactly the same with Manny Pacquiao, I didn’t think about what money I was getting for that fight. I just took it. Tim Tszyu is going off his dad’s name as well. Certainly, I wouldn’t be asking for a lot more if he was in his position without his family history.

"People are excited about it. The majority of people expect me to lose, as normal. On social media, I read everywhere that they’re going for Tim, that I’m past it and that I’ll lose the fight. Hopefully I can prove them wrong once again. That’s what I’ve continually got to keep doing. I think I’ve got too much experience at this stage, it’s definitely early on in his career."

[Ruthless-RKO]

Horn is stupid. This is supposed to be a huge fight for Aussie and will most definately be a PPV fight. Should really be a 12 rounder IMO.

But Horn is now saying he'll drop the rematch clause (something he wanted and Tszyu didn't).

[amwsnw]

I heard Horn saying he is open to a 12 rounder but he wants a bigger slice of the purse. I must say i am surprised it's an agreed 60/40 split. I would've thought horn had a 70/30 split already. He is the man in the this fight and should Tim win the torch will be passed.
I also have no problem with Horn 's camp wanting a 10 rounder. There's no doubt in any one's mind Tim will be fresher going into rounds 10 - 12, so why not try and get the best for your fighter.
And again Jeff is giving Tim this opportunity, I see no issue in a rematch clause. As long as the first fight is competitive it will set up a blockbuster. I think Jeff's team is being realistic. Maybe Tim's team doesn't want to risk this twice should they get a victory, after Horn v Zerafa dual. However money talks - 70/30 split and we will probably have a fight.
I just hope they can get it done and have it in Perth.

[margaret thatcher]

Ya, if your a fan of unconfident fighters playing A side diva then Horny is doing it all right

[convict]

So Horn wants to price himself out of the fight now?.

[ninetypercent]

I can't see what is so complicated. Horn's people are supposed to negotiate the best deal they can for their fighter. Horn struggled at the back end of the ten rounds with Zerafa, Why on earth would he want to fight twelve on a non title fight that would usually be expected to be a ten rounder. Have some people here forgotten why they call the eleventh and twelfth the championship rounds? Its because you fight them when your fighting for a championship. Horn and Tszyu arent fighting for a championship.

Saying to Tszyu that you can have your twelve rounds on a 70/30 split or you can fight the standard ten rounds of a main event and get 40% seems a perfectly reasonable offer. I agree with Amwsnw that a 40% split for Tszyu is a generous offer. He hasn't fought a fighter with a decent ranking let alone a Pac or a Crawford or anyone at even close to Zerafa's level.

Lets call a spade a spade, he has been promoted heavily by his promoter and fox based solely on his Dad's surname. Good luck to him and he has done well against the fighters he has fought but no one could say he has fought world class opposition. My advice to him would be to take the 40% and the ten rounds and concentrate on getting a win. Forty percent of this fight will be heaps more than he has ever earned and more than he will get for fighting anyone else. It will also give him a decent ranking and set him up for some more decent money fights.