margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 15:59
All seems a bit blown over the top?
I’d agree with you - problem for him is the Scousers are offended at everything and as soon as you say anything about them they go hunting in packs.
He’s entitled to his opinion about Liverpool fans just the same way Anthony Fowler is about Muslims - doesn’t mean either are right but it’s his opinion (also when he was 16)
What one of us wouldn’t have said or done something stupid at 16.
To me it seems a bit of a witch hunt because Liverpool fans don’t like anyone daring to question them - they have short memories about Heysel.
margaret thatcher wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 15:59
All seems a bit blown over the top?
I’d agree with you - problem for him is the Scousers are offended at everything and as soon as you say anything about them they go hunting in packs.
He’s entitled to his opinion about Liverpool fans just the same way Anthony Fowler is about Muslims - doesn’t mean either are right but it’s his opinion (also when he was 16)
What one of us wouldn’t have said or done something stupid at 16.
To me it seems a bit of a witch hunt because Liverpool fans don’t like anyone daring to question them - they have short memories about Heysel.
fornicate him. He posted his own comments, no one else did.
It’s no wonder Scousers are sensitive about this. They got treated like scum and had to watch as it was covered up for decades. What happened was criminal and too many who know sod all about it are far to free with their own uninformed opinions
fizzjambo wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 20:11
fornicate him. He posted his own comments, no one else did.
It’s no wonder Scousers are sensitive about this. They got treated like scum and had to watch as it was covered up for decades. What happened was criminal and too many who know sod all about it are far to free with their own uninformed opinions
Not just normal scousers,families of kids that passed that day,families that knew something didnt add up and pursued for over 25 years for the truth and now they want justice. At least Umar has immaturity to blame for his outbursts but some on here know the score,they know scousers on here and know how sensitive both disasters are to us but still have the mind set of Boris Johnson with the "a city that wallows in its own self pity" cr@p.
Wonder if he's on the books or it's all cash in hand? Surely if he has a working contract then they'd find it hard to give him the elbow over something that he posted as a 16 year old boy and they'd need to pay him off?
I can't stick the arrogant little wank anyway so fukk em
As I said in another post, I'm sure the club themselves do remember Heysel.
But I know dozens of Liverpool fans personally and I never hear any of them ever mention it. Most of the younger fans I know haven't even heard of it.
It's not 'spouting lies' if I am relaying my own personal experiences is it.
I know dozens too, hundreds over the course of my life, my brother and a few others were there, it's seared into the minds of thousands. You're looking to make a petty point scoring cheap shot about a tragic incident in a vain attempt at stereotyping an entire city and fan base to try and justify your own bullshit.
As I said in another post, I'm sure the club themselves do remember Heysel.
But I know dozens of Liverpool fans personally and I never hear any of them ever mention it. Most of the younger fans I know haven't even heard of it.
It's not 'spouting lies' if I am relaying my own personal experiences is it.
The thing is though Heysel is completely irrelevant to Hillsborough, Heysel was dealt with, changes were made, the club was punished(though Juventus got off with no reprimand for their fans behaviour on the night, after all Liverpools hooligans weren't fighting with nobody that night were they?). Whereas with Hillsborough, the authorities f*cked up and over the years they have tried to weasel their way out of it by putting the blame onto the fans.
The irony is people moan about "whingeing scousers" for fighting for justice even after all these years but if the rest of the country had that same attitude then maybe the government wouldn't constantly be treating the working man like sh*t would they? But as it is standing up for yourself these days seems to be regarded as whingeing.
keirw wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 21:53
As I said in another post, I'm sure the club themselves do remember Heysel.
But I know dozens of Liverpool fans personally and I never hear any of them ever mention it. Most of the younger fans I know haven't even heard of it.
It's not 'spouting lies' if I am relaying my own personal experiences is it.
The thing is though Heysel is completely irrelevant to Hillsborough, Heysel was dealt with, changes were made, the club was punished(though Juventus got off with no reprimand for their fans behaviour on the night, after all Liverpools hooligans weren't fighting with nobody that night were they?). Whereas with Hillsborough, the authorities f*cked up and over the years they have tried to weasel their way out of it by putting the blame onto the fans.
The irony is people moan about "whingeing scousers" for fighting for justice even after all these years but if the rest of the country had that same attitude then maybe the government wouldn't constantly be treating the working man like sh*t would they? But as it is standing up for yourself these days seems to be regarded as whingeing.
keirw wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 21:53
As I said in another post, I'm sure the club themselves do remember Heysel.
But I know dozens of Liverpool fans personally and I never hear any of them ever mention it. Most of the younger fans I know haven't even heard of it.
It's not 'spouting lies' if I am relaying my own personal experiences is it.
The thing is though Heysel is completely irrelevant to Hillsborough, Heysel was dealt with, changes were made, the club was punished(though Juventus got off with no reprimand for their fans behaviour on the night, after all Liverpools hooligans weren't fighting with nobody that night were they?). Whereas with Hillsborough, the authorities f*cked up and over the years they have tried to weasel their way out of it by putting the blame onto the fans.
The irony is people moan about "whingeing scousers" for fighting for justice even after all these years but if the rest of the country had that same attitude then maybe the government wouldn't constantly be treating the working man like sh*t would they? But as it is standing up for yourself these days seems to be regarded as whingeing.
Well said Banjo,i couldnt of put it better myself mate
keirw wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 21:53
As I said in another post, I'm sure the club themselves do remember Heysel.
But I know dozens of Liverpool fans personally and I never hear any of them ever mention it. Most of the younger fans I know haven't even heard of it.
It's not 'spouting lies' if I am relaying my own personal experiences is it.
I know dozens too, hundreds over the course of my life, my brother and a few others were there, it's seared into the minds of thousands. You're looking to make a petty point scoring cheap shot about a tragic incident in a vain attempt at stereotyping an entire city and fan base to try and justify your own bullshit.
keirw wrote: ↑05 Feb 2020, 21:53
As I said in another post, I'm sure the club themselves do remember Heysel.
But I know dozens of Liverpool fans personally and I never hear any of them ever mention it. Most of the younger fans I know haven't even heard of it.
It's not 'spouting lies' if I am relaying my own personal experiences is it.
I know dozens too, hundreds over the course of my life, my brother and a few others were there, it's seared into the minds of thousands. You're looking to make a petty point scoring cheap shot about a tragic incident in a vain attempt at stereotyping an entire city and fan base to try and justify your own bullshit.
If you know dozens of liverpool fans and your a hater how many do you think that I know when I live in the merseyside area and am a red fan? So take it from me they do mention it and if you wanna know they take the fact that what happened was wrong and we got punished but what they also say is UEFA should never have had a final at that stadium as it was falling to bits,there was no segregation and also Juve fans were firing starter pistols into the liverpool supporters. In fact the Italians have been doing sh1t like that for years and still are yet nothing gets done to them.
Remeber Sean Cox two seasons ago? They attacked him outside Anfield before the game and he is still ill to this day,an Irish family man going the game now has to be looked after by his wife but hey ho its just moaning whinging scousers init pfft.
thechump wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 06:06
If you know dozens of liverpool fans and your a hater how many do you think that I know when I live in the merseyside area and am a red fan? So take it from me they do mention it and if you wanna know they take the fact that what happened was wrong and we got punished but what they also say is UEFA should never have had a final at that stadium as it was falling to bits,there was no segregation and also Juve fans were firing starter pistols into the liverpool supporters. In fact the Italians have been doing sh1t like that for years and still are yet nothing gets done to them.
Remeber Sean Cox two seasons ago? They attacked him outside Anfield before the game and he is still ill to this day,an Irish family man going the game now has to be looked after by his wife but hey ho its just moaning whinging scousers init pfft.
Italian police raided a Juventus Ultras hideout last year and found several weapons including a surface to air missile
Absolute nutcases they are over there. The Turkish and Russian hooligans are choir boys compared to what you get in Italy.
thechump wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 06:06
If you know dozens of liverpool fans and your a hater how many do you think that I know when I live in the merseyside area and am a red fan? So take it from me they do mention it and if you wanna know they take the fact that what happened was wrong and we got punished but what they also say is UEFA should never have had a final at that stadium as it was falling to bits,there was no segregation and also Juve fans were firing starter pistols into the liverpool supporters. In fact the Italians have been doing sh1t like that for years and still are yet nothing gets done to them.
Remeber Sean Cox two seasons ago? They attacked him outside Anfield before the game and he is still ill to this day,an Irish family man going the game now has to be looked after by his wife but hey ho its just moaning whinging scousers init pfft.
Italian police raided a Juventus Ultras hideout last year and found several weapons including a surface to air missile
Absolute nutcases they are over there. The Turkish and Russian hooligans are choir boys compared to what you get in Italy.
Fvcking hell, what were they going to do with that? Fire it at the away end?
I know dozens too, hundreds over the course of my life, my brother and a few others were there, it's seared into the minds of thousands. You're looking to make a petty point scoring cheap shot about a tragic incident in a vain attempt at stereotyping an entire city and fan base to try and justify your own bullshit.
If you know dozens of liverpool fans and your a hater how many do you think that I know when I live in the merseyside area and am a red fan? So take it from me they do mention it and if you wanna know they take the fact that what happened was wrong and we got punished but what they also say is UEFA should never have had a final at that stadium as it was falling to bits,there was no segregation and also Juve fans were firing starter pistols into the liverpool supporters. In fact the Italians have been doing sh1t like that for years and still are yet nothing gets done to them.
Remeber Sean Cox two seasons ago? They attacked him outside Anfield before the game and he is still ill to this day,an Irish family man going the game now has to be looked after by his wife but hey ho its just moaning whinging scousers init pfft.
Heysel was the event that a long period of terrible idiotic violence led too. There was mismanagement on a large scale by UEFA and the police too.
It pisses me off when sections of that generation of supporters still think that football violence is a good thing. Its pathetic, you still see them around all clubs, 50+ blokes acting out some mad Green Street nonsense. pudenda the lot of them.
Grilling Machine wrote: ↑04 Feb 2020, 22:55
I paid £50 for one a few years back just for a running app. Still don't have the balls for Tinder, but I think that's justified where I live!
I wasn't Jane Couch's biggest fan, but I never liked Kugan for the way he swooped in and grabbed all the work she'd put in. They could've split their coverage and let her carry on doing local stuff, where she was a regular face anyway.
Agree with you on Couch. I remember her early interviews with the Fury’s. Got a very young Shane on camera, Fury was interviewed riding around in a Pony and Trap. Jane was doing a decent enough job. She used to post on here, too.
Tinder is shite now but even at its peak it was only worth having if you lived in a city. Pointless in places where everybody knows each other, or knows someone that knows you.
Exoddus wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 05:22
Umar IFL Umar has definitely been sacked. I spotted his fancy watch in the window of my local Cash Converters.
I couldn't afford to buy it though, how's your Tuesday going?
Feel a bit sorry for Umar, he was a bit cocky but is young and seems pretty good humoured and decent. Not sure what he should do. Problem is he’ll get persecuted by the scousers but everyone can be forgiven if they make the right moves.
Maybe start his own channel but with a more humourous laid back slant. No one likes Kugan. Booth is a one man show I think though he does team up with other guys he likes. Doing a few shows with Umar would be classic, especially if Umar gives up some stories or takes piss out ov kugan. I think is basically a normal lad and can have a laugh at himself. Imagine Kugan grinding and nashing his teeth seeing that show lolololololol
I know a lot of scousers and they all have long memories and they all bear a grudge
Exoddus wrote: ↑06 Feb 2020, 05:22
Umar IFL Umar has definitely been sacked. I spotted his fancy watch in the window of my local Cash Converters.
I couldn't afford to buy it though, how's your Tuesday going?
Feel a bit sorry for Umar, he was a bit cocky but is young and seems pretty good humoured and decent. Not sure what he should do. Problem is he’ll get persecuted by the scousers but everyone can be forgiven if they make the right moves.
Maybe start his own channel but with a more humourous laid back slant. No one likes Kugan. Booth is a one man show I think though he does team up with other guys he likes. Doing a few shows with Umar would be classic, especially if Umar gives up some stories or takes piss out ov kugan. I think is basically a normal lad and can have a laugh at himself. Imagine Kugan grinding and nashing his teeth seeing that show lolololololol
A problem he created for himself, too often when people come out with these things and it backfires on them they try and claim it as just a joke or "banter" acting like some sort of victim.
Feel a bit sorry for Umar, he was a bit cocky but is young and seems pretty good humoured and decent. Not sure what he should do. Problem is he’ll get persecuted by the scousers but everyone can be forgiven if they make the right moves.
Maybe start his own channel but with a more humourous laid back slant. No one likes Kugan. Booth is a one man show I think though he does team up with other guys he likes. Doing a few shows with Umar would be classic, especially if Umar gives up some stories or takes piss out ov kugan. I think is basically a normal lad and can have a laugh at himself. Imagine Kugan grinding and nashing his teeth seeing that show lolololololol
I know a lot of scousers and they all have long memories and they all bear a grudge
Dont know how you would feel if someone called your dead relative or friend a liar then said 4 years later cause he lost his job over it "i didnt mean it,i didnt understand how bad it was" mums and dads died before getting to know their son or daughter didnt have anything to do with what happened it was the police fault and the government covered it up. Bear grudges? Ppffft so you would just roll over and say "if a paper said they caused it then they did" but yet your involved in a sport that takes heart,courage and persistence to get in the ring?
In 1989, after a five-month trial in Brussels, 14 of the 26 Liverpool supporters who stood trial were found guilty of involuntary manslaughter and given a three-year prison sentence, suspended for 18 months, and each ended up serving about a year in total in behind bars. The remaining ten defendants were acquitted of manslaughter.
I know a lot of scousers and they all have long memories and they all bear a grudge
Dont know how you would feel if someone called your dead relative or friend a liar then said 4 years later cause he lost his job over it "i didnt mean it,i didnt understand how bad it was" mums and dads died before getting to know their son or daughter didnt have anything to do with what happened it was the police fault and the government covered it up. Bear grudges? Ppffft so you would just roll over and say "if a paper said they caused it then they did" but yet your involved in a sport that takes heart,courage and persistence to get in the ring?
I was trying to make the point that this will not just blow over and he will return to IFL as if nothing has happened
Fvcking hell, what were they going to do with that? Fire it at the away end?
