Joshua vs Pulev June the 20th 2020 London

[Betro09]

What's with all the fights in the Middle East? Dude gonna fight in Yemen, Jordan and Iraq next?

Too bad it's not Bald Bull. He'd probably get taken out in the 1st round with a well timed body shot, but he could always bull that upset with his Bull Charge

If the rumor is true, it is going to take place in the continent of Europe.

Check the maps.

[margaret thatcher]

Middle East isn't a continent is it, has parts of different continents? though it's kinda a vague term that gets used differently, but I've heard before that at least some of Turkey is part of it? It's an interesting country that seems culturally not quite with the rest of europe yet not with nearby countries like Iraq either

[watsupdoc87]

Middle East isn't a continent is it, has parts of different continents? though it's kinda a vague term that gets used differently, but I've heard before that at least some of Turkey is part of it? It's an interesting country that seems culturally not quite with the rest of europe yet not with nearby countries like Iraq either

Turkey classified as Europe but was always the bridge between Europe and Asia( Byzantine, Constantinople, Istanbul). Middle East isn't a continent considered the Arabian peninsula and sometimes the north Africa Arabian countries ie Egypt Tunisia Lybia Algeria

[gilgamesh]

What's with all the fights in the Middle East? Dude gonna fight in Yemen, Jordan and Iraq next?

Too bad it's not Bald Bull. He'd probably get taken out in the 1st round with a well timed body shot, but he could always bull that upset with his Bull Charge

If the rumor is true, it is going to take place in the continent of Europe.

Check the maps.

The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.

[lookingaround87]

If the rumor is true, it is going to take place in the continent of Europe.

Check the maps.

The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.

Istanbul is part of Europe, formerly known as Constantinople, prior to the Ottoman conquest.

[gilgamesh]

The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.

Istanbul is part of Europe, formerly known as Constantinople, prior to the Ottoman conquest.

Whether it's part of Europe or not, it's part of the Middle East because it's associated, and near all those countries.

Hong Kong technically belonged to Britain for the longest too, but to most people it's China.

[lookingaround87]

Istanbul is part of Europe, formerly known as Constantinople, prior to the Ottoman conquest.

Whether it's part of Europe or not, it's part of the Middle East because it's associated, and near all those countries.

Hong Kong technically belonged to Britain for the longest too, but to most people it's China.

Istanbul is on the continent of Europe. How can you compare that to Britain controlling Hong Kong? Istanbul is NOT 'the middle east', because geographically, it's literally part of the European continent. You seem to not be aware that Turkey is part of both Asia & Europe.



Imagine comparing that to Hong Kong. LOL

[Betro09]

If the rumor is true, it is going to take place in the continent of Europe.

Check the maps.

The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.

I never said Middle East is a continent. I said if the fight takes place in İstanbul, it will take place in Europe continent.

[boxing_rocks]

The Middle East isn't a continent. It's a region, and Turkey is part of it.

I never said Middle East is a continent. I said if the fight takes place in İstanbul, it will take place in Europe continent.

Hong Kong was a part of China conquered by Britain. Stambul (Konstantinopol) is a part of Greece/Europe conquered by Turkey.

[Finkel]

Well i wouldn't say you are wrong about twice
every year, but Lewis frequently fought every 5 months and sometimes even less, as did Bowe, Moorer and Tyson. So sometimes the fewer months resulted in 3 fights in a calendar year.

From the January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Lennox Lewis competed in 15 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 2.1 fights per year.

From the January 1st 1991 until the 31st December 1999, Mike Tyson competed in 9 bouts over a nine year period, which equates to one fight per year.

From the January 1st 1994 until the 31st December 1999, Michael Moorer competed in 7 bouts over a six year period, which equates to 1.2 fight per year.

From the January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Riddick Bowe competed in 9 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 1.3 fights per year.

Of course, there are anomalous periods (such as at the start of that decade, due to being contenders) when some of these guys competed more often, for a variety of reasons,.

So I think I’ve found the data to support the point I am trying to make. My issue is I don’t feel Joshua as a unified champion is defending the belts with enough regularity I looked at the various unified champions from Tyson onward. If we only consider unified championship runs which included at least one successful defence we are left with Tyson, Hollyfield I, Bowe, Hollyfield III, Lewis I, Lewis II, Klitschko and Joshua.

Tyson became unified champion at age 21, and defended on average once every 3.89 months

Hollyfield became unified champion at age 28, and defending avg every 6.25 months

Bowe became unified champion at age 21, and defending avg every 4 months

Hollyfield III became unified champion at age 35, and defending avg every 8 months

Lewis I became unified champion at age 32, and defending avg every 4.25 months

Lewis II became unified champion at age 36, and defending avg every 9.5 months

Klitschko became unified champion at age 31, and defending avg every 6.2 months

Joshua became unified champion at age 28, and defending avg every 6.5 months

Only Holyfield and Lewis in their final championship runs (outside their prime) fought less frequently than Joshua.
Whereas Joshua who is in prime and aged 30 is defending less frequently than Klitschko whose run was between the ages of 31 and 39.

Joshua needs to pick up the pace, or drop one of the belts.

[gilgamesh]

I love that you included Bowe and his lengthy 2 title defense reign

[Onetimeonly]

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[Enlightened-One]

From January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Lennox Lewis competed in 15 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 2.1 fights per year.

From January 1st 1991 until the 31st December 1999, Mike Tyson competed in 9 bouts over a nine year period, which equates to one fight per year.

From January 1st 1994 until the 31st December 1999, Michael Moorer competed in 7 bouts over a six year period, which equates to 1.2 fight per year.

From January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Riddick Bowe competed in 9 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 1.3 fights per year.

Of course, there are anomalous periods (such as at the start of that decade, due to being contenders) when some of these guys competed more often, for a variety of reasons,.

So I think I’ve found the data to support the point I am trying to make. My issue is I don’t feel Joshua as a unified champion is defending the belts with enough regularity I looked at the various unified champions from Tyson onward. If we only consider unified championship runs which included at least one successful defence we are left with Tyson, Hollyfield I, Bowe, Hollyfield III, Lewis I, Lewis II, Klitschko and Joshua.

Tyson became unified champion at age 21, and defended on average once every 3.89 months

Hollyfield became unified champion at age 28, and defending avg every 6.25 months

Bowe became unified champion at age 21, and defending avg every 4 months

Hollyfield III became unified champion at age 35, and defending avg every 8 months

Lewis I became unified champion at age 32, and defending avg every 4.25 months

Lewis II became unified champion at age 36, and defending avg every 9.5 months

Klitschko became unified champion at age 31, and defending avg every 6.2 months

Joshua became unified champion at age 28, and defending avg every 6.5 months

Only Holyfield and Lewis in their final championship runs (outside their prime) fought less frequently than Joshua.
Whereas Joshua who is in prime and aged 30 is defending less frequently than Klitschko whose run was between the ages of 31 and 39.

Joshua needs to pick up the pace, or drop one of the belts.

Didn’t you originally claim that 1990’s heavyweights, such as Lewis, Holyfield, Bowe, Moorer and Tyson, typically competed every four months or so (or roughly three times per year)?

Why gather stats specifically based on these guys title reigns, where some of them were incredibly short or commenced in the 1980’s?

I don’t know what to say really, because part of me is impressed that you’ve made the effort to perform research, but another part of me is confused about you listing stats that don’t appear to support your own argument.

Anyway, we’ll just agree to disagree.

[boxing_rocks]

Hearn says that Joshua's next fight will be in London:

https://metro.co.uk/2020/01/22/anthony- ... wsnow-feed

[SportsRatings]

From the January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Lennox Lewis competed in 15 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 2.1 fights per year.

From the January 1st 1991 until the 31st December 1999, Mike Tyson competed in 9 bouts over a nine year period, which equates to one fight per year.

From the January 1st 1994 until the 31st December 1999, Michael Moorer competed in 7 bouts over a six year period, which equates to 1.2 fight per year.

From the January 1st 1993 until the 31st December 1999, Riddick Bowe competed in 9 bouts over a seven year period, which equates to 1.3 fights per year.

Of course, there are anomalous periods (such as at the start of that decade, due to being contenders) when some of these guys competed more often, for a variety of reasons,.

Well played!
But I'm not quite ready to admit defeat yet.
I need to sit down and see if taking into account age, championship reigns and periods of imprisonment will help me make my case stronger.

Here's the only good example of the last 50 years:

A supposedly over-the-hill, end-of-career Muhammad Ali defended his title in March, May, and June of 1975.

And again, in February, April, and May of 1976.

That's right,, a mid-30s Ali fought THREE TIMES in FOUR MONTHS. On two occasions! And in-between these two periods, he fought the Thrilla in Manilla.

Now we can't get any champ to fight just ONCE in four months.

[Sagaroth]

A new info for us (The Fans):
The new rumor from Hearn himself suggest that the bout is 99% a done deal. It should happen at Tottenham Stadium with Spurs’ ground ‘front runner’ ahead of Arsenal’s Emirates. The match should be official within 7 days from now.

[gregregegg]

Can promoters stop announcing upcoming announcements?, and start announcing upcoming fights?

[Enlightened-One]

Well played!
But I'm not quite ready to admit defeat yet.
I need to sit down and see if taking into account age, championship reigns and periods of imprisonment will help me make my case stronger.

Here's the only good example of the last 50 years:

A supposedly over-the-hill, end-of-career Muhammad Ali defended his title in March, May, and June of 1975.

And again, in February, April, and May of 1976.

That's right,, a mid-30s Ali fought THREE TIMES in FOUR MONTHS. On two occasions! And in-between these two periods, he fought the Thrilla in Manilla.

I pretty much said that earlier on in this thread.

If you look at the top heavies pre 2000 they fought closer to once in every 4 to 5 months.

It'll have to be earlier than the 1990's because the likes of Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Mercer, Lewis, Foreman & Moorer didn't compete more than twice per year.

The 1980's and earlier might be more relevant to your claim.

[Enlightened-One]

A new info for us (The Fans):
The new rumor from Hearn himself suggest that the bout is 99% a done deal. It should happen at Tottenham Stadium with Spurs’ ground ‘front runner’ ahead of Arsenal’s Emirates. The match should be official within 7 days from now.

Additional info.

Apparently AJ wants the bout staged in June, which would be six months after his most recent outing.

[tiny_acres]

Can promoters stop announcing upcoming announcements?, and start announcing upcoming fights?

it's funny to read about we are announcing that an announcement is coming. More to follow after that announcement

[Bandog]

Next they will announce that there will be an announcement of who will be on "standby" in case Pulev pulls out again.

[joshj909]

Next they will announce that there will be an announcement of who will be on "standby" in case Pulev pulls out again.

Didn't think of that. They had Takam lined up last time prepared so it's safe to assume they would again. It would have to be someone ranked by the IBF and with connections to Hearn, so Kabayel? Hunter? Zhang?

[ewenhay]

Can promoters stop announcing upcoming announcements?, and start announcing upcoming fights?

it's funny to read about we are announcing that an announcement is coming. More to follow after that announcement

Matchroom announcements are more eagerly anticipated than most of their fights these days

[samwbr]

Pulev got deported from the US yesterday whilst trying to board an internal flight to Vegas.

[joshj909]

Pulev got deported from the US yesterday whilst trying to board an internal flight to Vegas.

Is there a report on this?