Dave Allen vs Darch under investigation for MATCH FIXING

[Ricky]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/1 ... ccusation/


Picked up mainstream media now.

[Stuarty]

Stinks to the high heavens...

[3132DW]

That fight was as queer as a bottle of crisps......deffo bent

looked a bit like allen was lacking a bit of confidence and then his trainer gave a bit of advice at the end of 2 , then in 3 he went for it big style ..

Hearn shouts at him at end of Round 2 to get rid of him and trainer chinned him for losing round and going through motions.

[margaret thatcher]

Maybe it was Eddeh who had the go on round 3

[Ricky]

I've rewtached the entire fight sever times now.

Allen's performance in rounds 1 & 2 are inexplicable. Darch gives him obvious openings to throw on several occasions and he steps back and/or switches stance instead.

I remember a pre-season game between Man City and LA Galaxy. Mario Balotelli was clean through on goal and instead of actually shooting (like he would have had it been a competitive league game), he did some wierd 360 degree backheel spin and the ball went 8 yards wide, Mancini instantly subbed him.off. This was like Allen's performance for 6 minutes, he just switched stance, kept his hands low, shuffled his feet, didn't throw, essentially ran the clock down for 6 minutes.

The finish is also highly suspect. Particularly the final left hook that floors Darch. It has all the hallmarks of a dive. Its a punch that is pushed through and Darch's fall is as phoney as it gets. I've seen enough knockdown's in my life to know which ones are legit and which ones seemingly deny the laws of physics. The way Darch tells the ref he's done while on the floor is a man still fully compus mentus, shocking acting from a man who isn't actually hurt.

Imo Allen and Darch are a couple of match fixing, cheating scum bags, I hope they face criminal prosecution for this scandal.

Parasites.

[Old bones Ian]

I can't remember if it was the Tom Dallas or David Howe fight but Allen did say he was trying to get a couple of rounds in and almost apologiesed for throwing the right hand that finished it, at the time you could see he carried the opponent to that point

[Ricky]

I can't remember if it was the Tom Dallas or David Howe fight but Allen did say he was trying to get a couple of rounds in and almost apologiesed for throwing the right hand that finished it, at the time you could see he carried the opponent to that point

Maybe he's got away with it before. This time though, he's caught. I think Darch was in on it (apparently they had breakfast together on Saturday morning) - the combined performances of both makes it obvious this isn't a legit contest. I think anyone who watches boxing regularly can tell the difference between 2 men having a legitimate contest, and 2 men acting out a fight. This was 2 men acting out a fight.

Given the reports of the betting patterns I also suspect that a lot more people knew this was fixed for round 3 than Allen/Darch planned for. Probably got leaked on some whatsapp groups or something. A punter on Twitter also noticed that someone was trying to get a large bet on the Betfair Exchange for R3 before the fight had started.

Loose lips sink ships, or in this case, cheating boxers.

[cormack]

I can't remember if it was the Tom Dallas or David Howe fight but Allen did say he was trying to get a couple of rounds in and almost apologiesed for throwing the right hand that finished it, at the time you could see he carried the opponent to that point

Maybe he's got away with it before. This time though, he's caught. I think Darch was in on it (apparently they had breakfast together on Saturday morning) - the combined performances of both makes it obvious this isn't a legit contest. I think anyone who watches boxing regularly can tell the difference between 2 men having a legitimate contest, and 2 men acting out a fight. This was 2 men acting out a fight.

Given the reports of the betting patterns I also suspect that a lot more people knew this was fixed for round 3 than Allen/Darch planned for. Probably got leaked on some whatsapp groups or something. A punter on Twitter also noticed that someone was trying to get a large bet on the Betfair Exchange for R3 before the fight had started.

Loose lips sink ships, or in this case, cheating boxers.

well we know dave allen has a gob that just goes on and on

[MasterG]

I can't remember if it was the Tom Dallas or David Howe fight but Allen did say he was trying to get a couple of rounds in and almost apologiesed for throwing the right hand that finished it, at the time you could see he carried the opponent to that point

Maybe he's got away with it before. This time though, he's caught. I think Darch was in on it (apparently they had breakfast together on Saturday morning) - the combined performances of both makes it obvious this isn't a legit contest. I think anyone who watches boxing regularly can tell the difference between 2 men having a legitimate contest, and 2 men acting out a fight. This was 2 men acting out a fight.

Given the reports of the betting patterns I also suspect that a lot more people knew this was fixed for round 3 than Allen/Darch planned for. Probably got leaked on some whatsapp groups or something. A punter on Twitter also noticed that someone was trying to get a large bet on the Betfair Exchange for R3 before the fight had started.

Loose lips sink ships, or in this case, cheating boxers.

It's been confirmed that the 2 boxers were in fact together the morning of the fight in the same hotel.

[rd350lc]

I've rewtached the entire fight sever times now.

Allen's performance in rounds 1 & 2 are inexplicable. Darch gives him obvious openings to throw on several occasions and he steps back and/or switches stance instead.

I remember a pre-season game between Man City and LA Galaxy. Mario Balotelli was clean through on goal and instead of actually shooting (like he would have had it been a competitive league game), he did some wierd 360 degree backheel spin and the ball went 8 yards wide.

I do this in 5 a side every week , fook knows how I do it , but I do

[Stuarty]

I've rewtached the entire fight sever times now.

Allen's performance in rounds 1 & 2 are inexplicable. Darch gives him obvious openings to throw on several occasions and he steps back and/or switches stance instead.

I remember a pre-season game between Man City and LA Galaxy. Mario Balotelli was clean through on goal and instead of actually shooting (like he would have had it been a competitive league game), he did some wierd 360 degree backheel spin and the ball went 8 yards wide.

I do this in 5 a side every week , fook knows how I do it , but I do

I'd get cramp now if i tried that

[3132DW]

I can't remember if it was the Tom Dallas or David Howe fight but Allen did say he was trying to get a couple of rounds in and almost apologiesed for throwing the right hand that finished it, at the time you could see he carried the opponent to that point

Maybe he's got away with it before. This time though, he's caught. I think Darch was in on it (apparently they had breakfast together on Saturday morning) - the combined performances of both makes it obvious this isn't a legit contest. I think anyone who watches boxing regularly can tell the difference between 2 men having a legitimate contest, and 2 men acting out a fight. This was 2 men acting out a fight.

Given the reports of the betting patterns I also suspect that a lot more people knew this was fixed for round 3 than Allen/Darch planned for. Probably got leaked on some whatsapp groups or something. A punter on Twitter also noticed that someone was trying to get a large bet on the Betfair Exchange for R3 before the fight had started.

Loose lips sink ships, or in this case, cheating boxers.

I’m not buying this “Betting Patterns” nonsense.

You wouldn’t get £500 at 9/4 for Round 3....you likely wouldn’t get £100 at 9/4 these days.

Who’s getting rich quick realistically betting small amounts ?

You couldn’t go round 100 shops with £20 as the alert notice would go out if they get 5-10 similar bets in same area.

These guys are not bookies anymore - go in and ask for £250 at 8/13 and they’ll have to phone through for approval. You can’t get the money people are thinking changed hands here on that sort of fight.

[cormack]

Apparently an investigation is underway ...
This betting story is probably the only justification to watch the fight again .

[3132DW]

Apparently an investigation is underway ...
This betting story is probably the only justification to watch the fight again .

You’ll find they investigate loads of fights and all sorts of Sports these days with the Level of Betting involved.

Be that Tennis/Darts/Snooker/Cricket etc.....they all have guys checking and monitoring.

[Ricky]

Maybe he's got away with it before. This time though, he's caught. I think Darch was in on it (apparently they had breakfast together on Saturday morning) - the combined performances of both makes it obvious this isn't a legit contest. I think anyone who watches boxing regularly can tell the difference between 2 men having a legitimate contest, and 2 men acting out a fight. This was 2 men acting out a fight.

Given the reports of the betting patterns I also suspect that a lot more people knew this was fixed for round 3 than Allen/Darch planned for. Probably got leaked on some whatsapp groups or something. A punter on Twitter also noticed that someone was trying to get a large bet on the Betfair Exchange for R3 before the fight had started.

Loose lips sink ships, or in this case, cheating boxers.

I’m not buying this “Betting Patterns” nonsense.

It's not nonsense, and you should buy it, because it happened. Betting markets are supply and demand like anything else. The best price available for Round 3 originally was about 5.00, give or take. It was similar odds for Rounds 1 & 2, a little shorter, as Allen was expected to win inside 1 or 2. Now bearing in mind that Darch hasn't made it into round 3 in has previous 6 fights coming into this one, and isn't even a full-time professional boxer. I felt that 5/2 (or 2.50) was a good price under the circumstances. I tipped a few folk in work to bet it too, believing that Allen would have him out of there with the first couple of shots he sits down on.

Round 4 increases a little, then round 5 a little more, as Darch isn't expected to last that long.

What happened on the markets, both on the Sportsbooks and (more publicly) the exchange (because we can see a record of exchange bets that got matched) - is that the money came in on round 3.

So what happens is that punter 1 will take the best price on offer of 5.00. Punter 2 comes along and finds that the best price layed of 5.00 has been taken, so say he takes odds of 4.30. Then punter #3 comes along and takes odds of 3.90. This is how a price gets driven down. Because the demand to BACK this particular selection outstrips the supply of traders willing to LAY it.

In this instance, Round 3 was driven all the way down to 1.66 (that's odds on, or 2/3 in fractional terms). I don't think i've ever seen a single round go odds-on before. In fact it would only be possible if it was round 1 in a serious, serious mismatch (say Wilder vs a guy off the street). But for round 3 it would be insane, because in such a mis-match you wouldn't expect the underdog to get through 2 rounds first. Having round 3 as odds-on when all the other rounds sit at the expected price is unthinkable and could only happen if it's a fix.

The evidence is mounting up, all it's going to take is for the police to link 1 of the punters who placed a big bet on round 3 to either of the boxers and that will be she all wrote.

[Ricky]

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[3132DW]

Other than Betfair where’s he getting Monkey on a round bet ?

I had an Acca on old Hills account - Joshua/Hrgovic/Whyte/Majidov - that alone went to Trader for approval for similar amount and 3 out the 4 were complete short prices.

[margaret thatcher]

Wonder who Carvers heard from

[Ricky]

Other than Betfair where’s he getting Monkey on a round bet ?

I had an Acca on old Hills account - Joshua/Hrgovic/Whyte/Majidov - that alone went to Trader for approval for similar amount and 3 out the 4 were complete short prices.

Different limits in different places. I scored some very big wins last year that included £30 Wilder r1 vs Breazeale at 25/1 on 365 & £115 on Gervonta Davis r1 or r2 vs Nunez (SkyBet price boost, £115 was max stake allowed).

[Gnome]

I just watched the fight, looked very suss.

[cannonball]

back in the 70s/80s they would have both been thrown out for stalling/faking

[coneye]

Don't know shit about betting , , But i do know when someone is being carried , , Jeez it amazes me they could'nt even bother to hide it , , Its easy to make it look exciting and even entertaining , , alls you have to do is throw lots of big slaps ,, to the body , lots of wild overhand slaps to land on the shoulder , long as they look hard and sound loud , the crowd will love it , .

Allen could'nt even be bothered doing that ,, Well far has i'm concerned , he should'nt be used again , never mind the BBBC looking into it , the promoter should be saying , what the fook , i pay you and this is what i get , no more

[littlepug]

Very suss but not as bad as this beauty !

[oogiebe]

Very suss but not as bad as this beauty !

LOL! I've seen that! Priceless.

[ShadrachSimmo]

Wots he saying at 9:30?

Can anyone here lip read?

Was that ok?