Ortiz did that better than anyone...twice, and still got the stuffing knocked out of him.
Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
The latest tripe Fury is coming out with is if you stand up to Wilder he folds
Ortiz did that better than anyone...twice, and still got the stuffing knocked out of him.
Ortiz did that better than anyone...twice, and still got the stuffing knocked out of him.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Has anyone ever really gone after him? Ortiz when he was hurt I guess. But even Ortiz was chess matching him 90 percent of the time. The power has guys shook and non aggressive for the most part
Would love to see what Fury could do inside. Wilder's game is just as much if not more based on long distance than Furys
Would love to see what Fury could do inside. Wilder's game is just as much if not more based on long distance than Furys
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
If Tyson goes after him to shut the distance and Wilder gets a half step back it could be all he needs.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 18:41 Has anyone ever really gone after him? Ortiz when he was hurt I guess. But even Ortiz was chess matching him 90 percent of the time. The power has guys shook and non aggressive for the most part
Would love to see what Fury could do inside. Wilder's game is just as much if not more based on long distance than Furys
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
I think if Fury tries to smother him, Wilder will uppercut him to death.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 18:41 Has anyone ever really gone after him? Ortiz when he was hurt I guess. But even Ortiz was chess matching him 90 percent of the time. The power has guys shook and non aggressive for the most part
Would love to see what Fury could do inside. Wilder's game is just as much if not more based on long distance than Furys
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Not sure about that, don't see much of an inside game from Wilder at all, he is one of the most 1 dimensional top level fighters we've seen in terms of punching range, which makes it a bit ironic when people focus so much on Fury boxing from outside.
D's every movement is long and his set up has always been around staying outside and probing for long right hands, which account for like 98 percent of his knockouts. I don't really think he's shown much to suggest he manhandles Fury on the inside too, Fury can actually fight inside pretty well and used to do it a lot more, he beat up Chisora inside their first fight
D's every movement is long and his set up has always been around staying outside and probing for long right hands, which account for like 98 percent of his knockouts. I don't really think he's shown much to suggest he manhandles Fury on the inside too, Fury can actually fight inside pretty well and used to do it a lot more, he beat up Chisora inside their first fight
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Manhandling is different from what I said. but hey, I stand by my statement.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 19:02 Not sure about that, don't see much of an inside game from Wilder at all, he is one of the most 1 dimensional top level fighters we've seen in terms of punching range, which makes it a bit ironic when people focus so much on Fury boxing from outside.
D's every movement is long and his set up has always been around staying outside and probing for long right hands, which account for like 98 percent of his knockouts. I don't really think he's shown much to suggest he manhandles Fury on the inside too, Fury can actually fight inside pretty well and used to do it a lot more, he beat up Chisora inside their first fight
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danconnollyeire
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
There’s fight fighting up closer then there’s chasing. Spzilka chased wilder and walked in to a big’ un. I disagree with the uppercut analogy, I’ve never seen him throw a good uppercut and he has no inside game at all. Fury won the battle up closer last time. Won every clinch and wilder couldn’t stop him tying up. Wilders one punch power is obviously a lot better but fury is stronger up close. Wilder has never thrown a short range ko shotoogiebe wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 18:55I think if Fury tries to smother him, Wilder will uppercut him to death.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 18:41 Has anyone ever really gone after him? Ortiz when he was hurt I guess. But even Ortiz was chess matching him 90 percent of the time. The power has guys shook and non aggressive for the most part
Would love to see what Fury could do inside. Wilder's game is just as much if not more based on long distance than Furys
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
You might be right. You might be wrong. We have four days to find out. I have to admit that I'm getting excited.danconnollyeire wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 19:40There’s fight fighting up closer then there’s chasing. Spzilka chased wilder and walked in to a big’ un. I disagree with the uppercut analogy, I’ve never seen him throw a good uppercut and he has no inside game at all. Fury won the battle up closer last time. Won every clinch and wilder couldn’t stop him tying up. Wilders one punch power is obviously a lot better but fury is stronger up close. Wilder has never thrown a short range ko shot
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
I mean, come on bruh, you said he'd uppercut him to death, what's the differenceoogiebe wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 19:38Manhandling is different from what I said. but hey, I stand by my statement.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 19:02 Not sure about that, don't see much of an inside game from Wilder at all, he is one of the most 1 dimensional top level fighters we've seen in terms of punching range, which makes it a bit ironic when people focus so much on Fury boxing from outside.
D's every movement is long and his set up has always been around staying outside and probing for long right hands, which account for like 98 percent of his knockouts. I don't really think he's shown much to suggest he manhandles Fury on the inside too, Fury can actually fight inside pretty well and used to do it a lot more, he beat up Chisora inside their first fight
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Fury is the stronger man. Manhandling involves using your strength advantage to muscle your opponent. Wilder can't do that. But he can throw uppercuts. I don't believe that Fury can use that inside game and get nothing back the whole fight.margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 19:45I mean, come on bruh, you said he'd uppercut him to death, what's the difference![]()
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
You manhandle a guy in the ring and you just rough him up and bash him around, same thing 
Wilder has a primitive, under developed inside game at best, we see time and time again him standing outside waiting for long shots and that's where his highlight reel is from. it might not be such a bad move to try some inside work. Wilder wants the range and to extend that long right hand, and if Fury is outside it will land right at the end.
I don't expect Fury to fight inside but to me it would make it way more interesting and I think there is sound logic in it. People get overly freaked by power, but the reality is that you can often nullify it without sticking outside
Wilder has a primitive, under developed inside game at best, we see time and time again him standing outside waiting for long shots and that's where his highlight reel is from. it might not be such a bad move to try some inside work. Wilder wants the range and to extend that long right hand, and if Fury is outside it will land right at the end.
I don't expect Fury to fight inside but to me it would make it way more interesting and I think there is sound logic in it. People get overly freaked by power, but the reality is that you can often nullify it without sticking outside
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Agree that getting on the inside is a much used method to smother a puncher's power. You watching the fight?margaret thatcher wrote: ↑18 Feb 2020, 20:06 You manhandle a guy in the ring and you just rough him up and bash him around, same thing
Wilder has a primitive, under developed inside game at best, we see time and time again him standing outside waiting for long shots and that's where his highlight reel is from. it might not be such a bad move to try some inside work. Wilder wants the range and to extend that long right hand, and if Fury is outside it will land right at the end.
I don't expect Fury to fight inside but to me it would make it way more interesting and I think there is sound logic in it. People get overly freaked by power, but the reality is that you can often nullify it without sticking outside
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Fury's inside game isn't the best, let's have it right. He'd use it to smother and tie up Wilder for sure, but he has as much chance of hitting himself on the jaw as he has of Wilder.
I can't see Fury doing anything different to what we have already seen - It would be a fundamental change to his boxing.
I can't see Fury doing anything different to what we have already seen - It would be a fundamental change to his boxing.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
He used to be as much an inside fighter as anything, gave Chis a good beating inside first fight and Chis is one of the better inside guys, the transformation was to the super negative flick and move and jerk stuff
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
No but yeah but no... I agree, he doesn't shoot from up close and it won't be much different than the last fight. He'll throw a 1-2 tie up. He wins every clinch... it worked perfectly in the first fight just do it againTwinkle Toes wrote: ↑19 Feb 2020, 04:05 Fury's inside game isn't the best, let's have it right. He'd use it to smother and tie up Wilder for sure, but he has as much chance of hitting himself on the jaw as he has of Wilder.
I can't see Fury doing anything different to what we have already seen - It would be a fundamental change to his boxing.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
I am pumped up for this bout lads!
Fuel for the night - 4 cans of stella, packet of m&m and a curry hot enough to send you to A&E!
Fuel for the night - 4 cans of stella, packet of m&m and a curry hot enough to send you to A&E!
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
I'd have that finished during the advertskbackup408 wrote: ↑19 Feb 2020, 06:25 I am pumped up for this bout lads!
Fuel for the night - 4 cans of stella, packet of m&m and a curry hot enough to send you to A&E!
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
6’7 super welterweight Sebastian Fundora TOWERS over Daniel Lewis at the grand arrivals in Las Vegas!
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Just a heads up lads DAZN have picked up the rights for the big fight for the Italian/Spanish markets - if you have a VPN or need help drop me a message!
Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020
Deontay Wilder v Tyson Fury rematch officials confirmed:
Referee - Kenny Bayless
Judge - Glenn Feldman
Judge - Dave Moretti
Judge - Steve Weisfeld