Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Who wins the rematch?

Poll ended at 23 Feb 2020, 12:17

Wilder - Decision
0
No votes
Wilder - T/KO
58
46%
DRAW
3
2%
Fury - T/KO
29
23%
Fury - Decision
36
29%
 
Total votes: 126

danconnollyeire
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by danconnollyeire »

WildWaylon wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:15 The Fury record should read, and 2 losses. In their first fight, Fury clearly lost to Big John McD but beat him in the rematch. Wilder won the last fight,. I think 9 out of 10 refs would have dived in and stopped the fight when Fury didnt get up. In both cases Fury had help from the ref and therefore has a false record. I just hope Wilder is the clear winner in this fight and goes on to fight Joshua. :box:
You think wilder won because some refs might have waved it off? Some logic that!
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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KiwiRider wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:17
Delta Jay wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:12 I’ve heard a crazy amount of people saying Fury KO. What evidence do we have that he’s going to go in there and push for a knock out? Besides him talking his usual bollux?
Well, he did buzz Wilder a couple of times in the first fight, one more straight right added and he may have caused a KD. Also, he may be thinking (like a lot of us) that he can't maintain safety for 36 mins, and has to try to finish it early.
But your right about the bollocks Fury is a cronic gabber.
I’m always right about the bollocks.

I’m going back to my initial, sensible, prediction of Fury UD.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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WildWaylon wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:15 The Fury record should read, and 2 losses. In their first fight, Fury clearly lost to Big John McD but beat him in the rematch. Wilder won the last fight,. I think 9 out of 10 refs would have dived in and stopped the fight when Fury didnt get up. In both cases Fury had help from the ref and therefore has a false record. I just hope Wilder is the clear winner in this fight and goes on to fight Joshua. :box:
C'mon, mate. That doesn't make any sense.

Most refs would have stopped the fight because they'd've thought Tyson wasn't going to get up....... but he did get up, and what's more, finished strongly. Most refs would, therefor, have been wrong to stop the fight.
It's almost like counting fighters that managed a win Germany or Italy in the 90's as losses because the judges didn't turn in a card for the hometown fighter, cus you know, 9 out of 10 of them often did - no matter what they saw.

No arguments about the McDermott fight, though. That wasn't even close.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by polecateddy »

I can’t think of a fighter who has weighed 273 pounds and can honestly claim it’s an optimum weight to perform at. The weights got to be a worry for mobility and reaction speed.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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polecateddy wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:50 I can’t think of a fighter who has weighed 273 pounds and can honestly claim it’s an optimum weight to perform at. The weights got to be a worry for mobility and reaction speed.
It’s pathetic mate and a downright lazy move by him, trying to win a fight by weighing heavy doesn’t sit well with me, I’d rather he come in 2 stone lighter and use his bloody skills
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by Tarquin Tarpaulin IV »

Fury has boxed at 276 before.....
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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Tyson Fury is a giant bum, a big fat parody of an elusive fighter that looks utterly ridiculous trying roll punches with his big fat 7 foot frame. He's going to get flattened tonight then hopefully go back to the WWF circus where he belongs.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by polecateddy »

There’s was whispers of complacency creeping in. Could it be the road work has taken a back seat with a bad ankle and instead he’s being pumping iron as a substitute? I honestly don’t know. But Wilder looks a bit like version 2.0 and is probably at his absolute peak.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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Ricky wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 16:05 Tyson Fury is a giant bum, a big fat parody of an elusive fighter that looks utterly ridiculous trying roll punches with his big fat 7 foot frame. He's going to get flattened tonight then hopefully go back to the WWF circus where he belongs.
Not a fan then ?
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by dve3333 »

I actually think with all the talk about Fury that its actually Wilders weight that's the bigger deal, which will hinder him the longer the fight goes. We also have a better conditioned sharper Tyson as opposed to the wary, out of shape, 2 years out of the ring and worried about his gas tank version in the first fight.

I see Tyson pressing the fight on the front foot using his weight to nullify then bully and stop an exhausted Wilder in the later rounds
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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Lenny Cravats wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:22
WildWaylon wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:15 The Fury record should read, and 2 losses. In their first fight, Fury clearly lost to Big John McD but beat him in the rematch. Wilder won the last fight,. I think 9 out of 10 refs would have dived in and stopped the fight when Fury didnt get up. In both cases Fury had help from the ref and therefore has a false record. I just hope Wilder is the clear winner in this fight and goes on to fight Joshua. :box:
C'mon, mate. That doesn't make any sense.

Most refs would have stopped the fight because they'd've thought Tyson wasn't going to get up....... but he did get up, and what's more, finished strongly. Most refs would, therefor, have been wrong to stop the fight.
It's almost like counting fighters that managed a win Germany or Italy in the 90's as losses because the judges didn't turn in a card for the hometown fighter, cus you know, 9 out of 10 of them often did - no matter what they saw.

No arguments about the McDermott fight, though. That wasn't even close.
Good analogy, Lenny. I'm buzzing for the fight.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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Sugar Hill has the family name but I haven't seen him take charge of the camp, whether you are talking about conditioning or tactics.
He seems to be along for the ride.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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WildWaylon wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:15 The Fury record should read, and 2 losses. In their first fight, Fury clearly lost to Big John McD but beat him in the rematch. Wilder won the last fight,. I think 9 out of 10 refs would have dived in and stopped the fight when Fury didnt get up. In both cases Fury had help from the ref and therefore has a false record. I just hope Wilder is the clear winner in this fight and goes on to fight Joshua. :box:
Do you want some ice cream with that waffle mate
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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smiling assassin wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 17:45
WildWaylon wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:15 The Fury record should read, and 2 losses. In their first fight, Fury clearly lost to Big John McD but beat him in the rematch. Wilder won the last fight,. I think 9 out of 10 refs would have dived in and stopped the fight when Fury didnt get up. In both cases Fury had help from the ref and therefore has a false record. I just hope Wilder is the clear winner in this fight and goes on to fight Joshua. :box:
Do you want some ice cream with that waffle mate
Burn :lol: :lol:
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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If nothing else, this fight has the forum popping.

The odds on this fight say it all, 10/11 each to win and a very low 20/1 for the draw on Sly Bet. A “genuine 50/50” and I’ve heard some hilarious opinions and predictions in the lead up. I’m in the Wetherspoons now and everyone’s on about it.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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Delta Jay wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:12 I’ve heard a crazy amount of people saying Fury KO. What evidence do we have that he’s going to go in there and push for a knock out? Besides him talking his usual bollux?
Also he’s an arm puncher which makes a KO even less likely. And doesn’t have a brilliant offensive repertoire. Unless, somehow, he breaks him down, busts him up with accumulation of punishment.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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Autobarn wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 18:23
Delta Jay wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:12 I’ve heard a crazy amount of people saying Fury KO. What evidence do we have that he’s going to go in there and push for a knock out? Besides him talking his usual bollux?
Also he’s an arm puncher which makes a KO even less likely. And doesn’t have a brilliant offensive repertoire. Unless, somehow, he breaks him down, busts him up with accumulation of punishment.
David Haye (who hates Fury) said Wilder has a concrete chin. But Fury is big enough to knock anyone out. And he doesn’t throw arum puncheese, he just doesn’t sit down on them
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by polecateddy »

In the morning I sadly expect to read that Wilder got a convincing stoppage. I’d presume Fury would then have another ‘retirement’ but emerging again in 18 months or so to dominate a few more tomato cans. I’m just not convinced he’s anywhere near mentally and physically ready tonight.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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Coco wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 17:41 Sugar Hill has the family name but I haven't seen him take charge of the camp, whether you are talking about conditioning or tactics.
He seems to be along for the ride.
That's because they haven't shown anything from camp in the boxing gym. All I've seen is either workouts at a regular gym, and posey stuff you usually get on the pads in a lead up promo/presser. Tyson closed the doors this time, li'l Sug is keeping wraps on what is released, which leasing right up to the fight, has been virtually nothing.
I'm pretty sure the boxing gym work was all him.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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Right , going to bed. Alarm for 5:15. Hopefully that’s early enough :lol:
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

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Lenny Cravats wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:22
WildWaylon wrote: 22 Feb 2020, 15:15 The Fury record should read, and 2 losses. In their first fight, Fury clearly lost to Big John McD but beat him in the rematch. Wilder won the last fight,. I think 9 out of 10 refs would have dived in and stopped the fight when Fury didnt get up. In both cases Fury had help from the ref and therefore has a false record. I just hope Wilder is the clear winner in this fight and goes on to fight Joshua. :box:


No arguments about the McDermott fight, though. That wasn't even close.
respectfully disagree. Thought fury won the first 2 and last 2, of a 10 round fight. John won his rounds more impressively, but Tyson was def in it. I watched it after reading the posts on here, expecting a one way drubbing, and it was nothing of the sort.

Not that it matters now lol.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by ewenhay »

This is a really important night for the heavyweight division.

I hope its not spoiled by poor judging or refereeing.
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by handsofstone »

Navarrete too big for Sanitisima , won everything, put together some nice combinations and tagged him with some clean punches but Sanitsima had some grit and never really looked like giving up, Navarrete is a beast at the weight, relentless just keeps marching forward and when he turned the screw forced the stoppage, ref might've been a bit earlier but got there in th end
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by margaret thatcher »

I like Navarette, dude just lets his hands go with every punch there is, head and body, he has some awkward skill to him too
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Re: Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

Post by milpool »

Who’s idea was it to have these two as the fight before the main event? :zzz:
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