Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

Who wins?

Poll ended at 01 Mar 2020, 08:02

Martinez - Decision
0
No votes
Martinez - T/KO
11
92%
DRAW
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Harris - T/KO
0
No votes
Harris - Decision
1
8%
 
Total votes: 12

Ruthless-RKO
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

Post by Ruthless-RKO »

Harris put up a really good fight
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Ruthless-RKO wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 04:37 Harris put up a really good fight
Absolutely - took some punishment and still kept coming back.

He’s only been full time for this fight and works in warehouse - would be interesting to see if how he could progress as full time fighter as he was in with the divisions elite there.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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117-111 Martinez for me but what a sterling effort from Harris, really showed he has something about him, can box and has tons of grit, Martinez just had that more pop on his punches and his shots had more of an effect, Harris tagged him clean plenty but Martinez just keeps marching forward and as the rounds went on you could see the steam go out of Harris's punches, still it didn't stop him rom trying to keep up with Martinez


Lovely knockdown from Martinez in the 10th, left/right to the body right at the start of the round but Harris again showed he wouldn't go away that easily and got up to box well in the round, fair play to Harris he could've tried to pick and poke his way to a decision but chose to trade with Martinez in there, still Martinez the deserved winner, keeps marching forward, can be hit but punches hard and puts together some nice combinations, I thought both men showed nice work to the body but Martinez a level above in power and strength, Harris will come again though
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Sounds like there was some good stuff from these two and Gonzalez last night :salut:
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Harris showed plenty of heart.
I’d of liked to of seen him throw the left-hook to the body more. I thought it was hurting Martinez when he landed it.
Martinez is a quality fighter. Heavy hands.
I had it 118-109 but Harris was competitive in every round.

I’d fancy Harris against Dalakian. I know they’ve sparred before aswell.

Hope Harris can afford to bin off his Amazon job and go full-time.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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PredatorHayds wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 10:24 Harris showed plenty of heart.
I’d of liked to of seen him throw the left-hook to the body more. I thought it was hurting Martinez when he landed it.
Martinez is a quality fighter. Heavy hands.
I had it 118-109 but Harris was competitive in every round.

I’d fancy Harris against Dalakian. I know they’ve sparred before aswell.

Hope Harris can afford to bin off his Amazon job and go full-time.
Would be surprised if Matchroom don’t look at him with Welsh cards in mind - they have Cordina, Selby in on the Cardiff card to be announced.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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100% he ends up signing a Deal now.
A lot of impressed people Statseide last night.
He fought a Mexican like a Mexican.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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3132DW wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 10:40
PredatorHayds wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 10:24 Harris showed plenty of heart.
I’d of liked to of seen him throw the left-hook to the body more. I thought it was hurting Martinez when he landed it.
Martinez is a quality fighter. Heavy hands.
I had it 118-109 but Harris was competitive in every round.

I’d fancy Harris against Dalakian. I know they’ve sparred before aswell.

Hope Harris can afford to bin off his Amazon job and go full-time.
Would be surprised if Matchroom don’t look at him with Welsh cards in mind - they have Cordina, Selby in on the Cardiff card to be announced.
What is this Cardiff card people keep mentioning? I’ve not seen anything announced? :maybe:
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Boxerbeetle wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 10:50
3132DW wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 10:40

Would be surprised if Matchroom don’t look at him with Welsh cards in mind - they have Cordina, Selby in on the Cardiff card to be announced.
What is this Cardiff card people keep mentioning? I’ve not seen anything announced? :maybe:
9th May down the Motorpoint mate.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Harris done himself proud. Kept pushing even when he was getting battered, I'll watch him again.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

Post by Loftgroov »

Really enjoyed this fight - a great watch and credit to Harris. He was ultimately out-gunned but didn't look at all out of place in this and put in a superb effort. :TU:

He'll certainly come again and I'll look forward to watching him.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Harris was brilliant last night. Loads of people wrote him right off, he didn’t get the win but I thought he looked really determined and really classy with his defence when he got slick and hit the body well. Martinez is a little animal, some big shots just bouncing off him.

Look forward to watching Harris in the future.

Martinez should fight Chocolatito.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Delta Jay wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 14:33 Harris was brilliant last night. Loads of people wrote him right off, he didn’t get the win but I thought he looked really determined and really classy with his defence when he got slick and hit the body well. Martinez is a little animal, some big shots just bouncing off him.

Look forward to watching Harris in the future.

Martinez should fight Chocolatito.
Choc v Estrada is cert.....Hearn has option to sign Gonzalez now.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Boxerbeetle wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 10:50
3132DW wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 10:40

Would be surprised if Matchroom don’t look at him with Welsh cards in mind - they have Cordina, Selby in on the Cardiff card to be announced.
What is this Cardiff card people keep mentioning? I’ve not seen anything announced? :maybe:
It’s not been announced - Selby v Kambosos is on it as Matchroom done deal for that plus Cordina in title fight.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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And Harris is still Euro champ yeah?
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Neah, they gotta vacate the EBU to fight for a world title I think
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 15:03 Neah, they gotta vacate the EBU to fight for a world title I think
Ok, but nevertheless a fight which has taken him forward.

He should be in line for another world title shot or at least to reclaim the Euro.

Showed he's leagues ahead of Edwards.

Fair play to him, went into the lions den, took his lumps and fought to the end.

Class and talent wise he looks top level too.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Coco wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 15:08
margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Mar 2020, 15:03 Neah, they gotta vacate the EBU to fight for a world title I think
Ok, but nevertheless a fight which has taken him forward.

He should be in line for another world title shot or at least to reclaim the Euro.

Showed he's leagues ahead of Edwards.

Fair play to him, went into the lions den, took his lumps and fought to the end.

Class and talent wise he looks top level too.
Agree with all that. He’ll only improve if he can go full-time and all.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Don't think it's been mentioned on the forum yet, but Jay was very game in defeat
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Jay Harris put up an outstanding challenge. He showed the world he's a world class fighter with skills and bottle to match.

The 5 punch combination he put together in the 9th round was pure class.

Unfortunately for Harris, Martinez has "hands of stone" and the left-right to the body in the 10th was a brutal combo. Jay did extremely well to carry on and stay competitive until the end. I really thought the fight was over when he went down.

It's hard to accept defeat when you've given everything in a fight few gave him a chance of winning, but I'd have liked to see Harris and Lockett be more gracious in defeat afterwards in the IFL interviews etc.

The score cards were not sh1t except for the 115-112, which was too close IMO, especially with the knockdown Harris suffered. Jay was competitive through out but was losing the rounds.

There was no controversy here guys, just be proud of your effort and give Martinez the full credit he deserves in posting a clear points win :TU:
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Completely agree but I have no problem with Harris convincing himself he won, in boxing you need that self belief
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Martínez reminds me of Alberto Jimenez
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Counter-puncher wrote: 02 Mar 2020, 19:11 Martínez reminds me of Alberto Jimenez
He reminds Brian Kenney of Roberto Duran.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

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Onetimeonly wrote: 03 Mar 2020, 06:07
Counter-puncher wrote: 02 Mar 2020, 19:11 Martínez reminds me of Alberto Jimenez
He reminds Brian Kenney of Roberto Duran.
:lol: I'm not aware of Kenney's 'work' but he sounds a trifle excitable.

the Jimenez comparison is a decent one, Alberto was a bit more technically-polished and compact, and less heavyhanded, but they have very similar frames and the way they put their punches together in combination is very similar, Alberto would also sometimes square up or switch lefty to give him certain angles on shots.
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Re: Julio Cesar Martinez vs. Jay Harris - 29 February 2020

Post by REEVE »

I told my trainer hed be a world champion after i fought him :box:

Could just tell he was excellent, switches from head to body very well and is big for the weight ..he fought a great fight against an excellent champion he will come again
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