Should Wilder demand the rematch against Fury immediately ?

[punchoutsb]

How good a chance? He couldn't do it in the first 2 attempts and it got much worse for him the last time. You really think Fury is as easy for him to KO as it would be to KO Kow or Chuck?

It depends on if Wilder is shot. If he's shot, they are all a handful. If he isn't shot, he has a puncher's chance against any of them. Certainly the contenders I mentioned would be easier pickings than Fury, albeit for a lot less money and glory which is why I think he should take an immediate rematch.

Wilder isn’t shot. He’s a limited, massive puncher who was destined to be beaten if his power ever failed to bail him out. He’s been fortunate that the division is absolute trash. He would absolutely destroy Martin and Kownacki. He’ll always struggle against skilled opponents, but fortunately for him there aren’t many around and those that are are either old, not the most durable, or both.

[Tony1244]

It depends on if Wilder is shot. If he's shot, they are all a handful. If he isn't shot, he has a puncher's chance against any of them. Certainly the contenders I mentioned would be easier pickings than Fury, albeit for a lot less money and glory which is why I think he should take an immediate rematch.

Wilder isn’t shot. He’s a limited, massive puncher who was destined to be beaten if his power ever failed to bail him out. He’s been fortunate that the division is absolute trash. He would absolutely destroy Martin and Kownacki. He’ll always struggle against skilled opponents, but fortunately for him there aren’t many around and those that are are either old, not the most durable, or both.

I agree with a whole bunch of this, but not all of it. I'll put in bold what I agree with to save us both some time.

It's always in fashion to say the HW is currently trash. I don't really think it''s that bad. Th supposed 70s heyday had top 10'ers like Wepner and Larry Middleton. I remember in the 70s people said the division was full of bums.

He likely isn't shot, but we don't know that yet due to the psychological implications of being beaten up very badly for the first time.

[punchoutsb]

Wilder isn’t shot. He’s a limited, massive puncher who was destined to be beaten if his power ever failed to bail him out. He’s been fortunate that the division is absolute trash. He would absolutely destroy Martin and Kownacki. He’ll always struggle against skilled opponents, but fortunately for him there aren’t many around and those that are are either old, not the most durable, or both.

I agree with a whole bunch of this, but not all of it. I'll put in bold what I agree with to save us both some time.

It's always in fashion to say the HW is currently trash. I don't really think it''s that bad. Th supposed 70s heyday had top 10'ers like Wepner and Larry Middleton. I remember in the 70s people said the division was full of bums.

He likely isn't shot, but we don't know that yet due to the psychological implications of being beaten up very badly for the first time.

It is always in vogue to say HW sucks, I'll give you that. It's my opinion that this is the worst it's been in a very long time, and I think looking over the top contenders/titlists post-Wlad really shows that.

I also agree with you last sentence if you mean Fury potentially beat him so he's now shot. What I meant was his skills hadn't eroded prior to Fury to say he's shot. It's definitely possible that Fury beat the fight out of him though.

[ewenhay]

He'll still be able to knock people out. He's not shot as he is a fit guy and won't lose that power.

He was destroyed though. It will be interesting to see how that affects his confidence and desire.

Also other opponents may be less cautious in future and be more confident of getting inside.

I think he'll gamble on the third fight though if he does decide to continue.

[squiggy]

What about "Do You Actually Want To See That Rematch Right Away?"? I have a feeling Fury will not stick around for a particularly long career; I'd much rather see him find some new challenge to pursue.

[Finkel]

So looks like we are getting a July rematch.
Wilder formally accepted

[Kronkpride]

What about "Do You Actually Want To See That Rematch Right Away?"? I have a feeling Fury will not stick around for a particularly long career; I'd much rather see him find some new challenge to pursue.

Hell yes I want to see the rematch. That clause was also very much responsible for the original rematch. Guaranteed both guys what they needed to each take another big risk that they did not need to take.

I am damn sick of this Anthony Joshua should fight Fury crap. Joshua got KTFO just as bad...actually worse....than Wilder did just 2 fights back. A fat Mexican beat his f'n arse so badly. His legs are more questionable than Wilder's and so is his heart. Wilder was not right for whatever reason and his legs were not there for him but he still never looked like a dancing chicken like Joshua did. Wilder also never looked desperate to have the fight over with even though he was getting badly abused. Joshua couldn't wait for the first match with Ruiz to be over with. The god damned guy is basically a quitter. He can enter a fight 100% and then a good punch can get him chicken dancing on rubber legs. Joshua is no better of a challenge than Wilder is.

Joshua also settled for a split with Ruiz. He got his f'n arse kicked in his loss and then never put Ruiz in any danger in the win. He should have been demanding to fight Ruiz a 3rd time as it takes more than that running job from a fatter Andy Ruiz to even that score. Ruiz still own that series even with it being 1-1.

There is no better challenge for Fury than another match with Wilder. Fury is #1 and Wilder and Joshua are 2A and 2B. Joshua is not a clear #2 no matter what people are trying to say about it.

[Onetimeonly]

So looks like we are getting a July rematch.
Wilder formally accepted

Wilder issued.

[Finkel]

So looks like we are getting a July rematch.
Wilder formally accepted

Wilder issued.

Okay, okay, if you want to get into semantics:
Wilder's team "formally notified" Fury's team

[squiggy]

What about "Do You Actually Want To See That Rematch Right Away?"? I have a feeling Fury will not stick around for a particularly long career; I'd much rather see him find some new challenge to pursue.

Hell yes I want to see the rematch. That clause was also very much responsible for the original rematch. Guaranteed both guys what they needed to each take another big risk that they did not need to take.

I am damn sick of this Anthony Joshua should fight Fury crap. Joshua got KTFO just as bad...actually worse....than Wilder did just 2 fights back. A fat Mexican beat his f'n arse so badly. His legs are more questionable than Wilder's and so is his heart. Wilder was not right for whatever reason and his legs were not there for him but he still never looked like a dancing chicken like Joshua did. Wilder also never looked desperate to have the fight over with even though he was getting badly abused. Joshua couldn't wait for the first match with Ruiz to be over with. The god damned guy is basically a quitter. He can enter a fight 100% and then a good punch can get him chicken dancing on rubber legs. Joshua is no better of a challenge than Wilder is.

Joshua also settled for a split with Ruiz. He got his f'n arse kicked in his loss and then never put Ruiz in any danger in the win. He should have been demanding to fight Ruiz a 3rd time as it takes more than that running job from a fatter Andy Ruiz to even that score. Ruiz still own that series even with it being 1-1.

There is no better challenge for Fury than another match with Wilder. Fury is #1 and Wilder and Joshua are 2A and 2B. Joshua is not a clear #2 no matter what people are trying to say about it.

The way I look at it, I've seen Fury beat Wilder two different ways (the most recent one basically as definitive as you could possibly ask for), while a Fury-Joshua matchup remains something I haven't seen at all. And outside of injury-plagued Usyk, there really aren't a lot of other interesting top heavyweights around right now.

[squiggy]

Wilder's gonna be like Tim Bradley, milking a trilogy out of a matchup where he was lucky to be seen as competitive in the first fight.

[Onetimeonly]

Wilder issued.

Okay, okay, if you want to get into semantics:
Wilder's team "formally notified" Fury's team

Not semantics, what happened. No need for wilder to not get credit for taking this next ass whipping like a man.

[dickbelden]

sounds like JULY/2020
https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/02/bo ... y-in-july/

[Evander]

No chance Wilder get's a rematch until a later date.

Apparently he's already confirming he wants it.

I wouldn't if I was him, Wilder should rest and reflect and figure out his next move.

[Paci]

Wilder should have waited. Then again, he is a lion and he wants his belt back.

Fingers crossed that this one will be better without Wilder getting clocked bad and losing his legs. But Fury might go for an even earlier K.O... then again Wilder can punch anyone out. Fury will need to watch it.

[Bandog]

Apparently he's already confirming he wants it.

I wouldn't if I was him, Wilder should rest and reflect and figure out his next move.

At 34 yrs old, a shot to get his belt back that may not be there otherwise. People may think I'm nuts, but AJ has a very good chance of beating Fury. It's not like it is a huge career risk for Wilder. More like an opportunity for redemption. He always will have a puncher's chance. In the old days guys would fight 3-4 weeks later after worse beatings and would be fine.

Add to that, Fury's claim of going on a coke binge after his win may work out in Wilder's favor. Fury may think he doesn't have to train this time.

[Contendeh]

I don’t think he should take an immediate rematch. Not saying he can’t do better next time, but a keep busy, confidence building, fight wouldn’t be a bad idea for him for several obvious reasons.

That being said, it looks like it’s going to happen.

I bought the last two and I really don’t want to buy a third fight. Maybe I will when the time comes, cause I got serious boxing addictions, but It doesn’t feel mandatory like the last two.

It’d be so much better if, in the States here, they’d just have it on regular tv. That might be a good thing just to get millions to watch it, build up both fighters profiles.

I can’t see the Ppv doing the business of the last fight.

[DrDuke]

So, Wilder's team seems ready to accept it. They are better to use all the time they have to think about it.

[candyslim]

I wouldn't if I was him, Wilder should rest and reflect and figure out his next move.

At 34 yrs old, a shot to get his belt back that may not be there otherwise. People may think I'm nuts, but AJ has a very good chance of beating Fury. It's not like it is a huge career risk for Wilder. More like an opportunity for redemption. He always will have a puncher's chance. In the old days guys would fight 3-4 weeks later after worse beatings and would be fine.

Add to that, Fury's claim of going on a coke binge after his win may work out in Wilder's favor. Fury may think he doesn't have to train this time.

If I thought you were nuts Bandog it wouldn't be because of anything you typed here. I agree Deontay has a puncher's chance, he hasn't suddenly become toothless over night. Also he can't afford to decline the rematch: The chance may not come again for one reason or another, and he's not getting any younger.

As you rightly point out Fury is not guaranteed to beat Joshua. AJ might not hit as hard as Deontay, but he's a far better boxer, far more adaptable, and I'd back him to land plenty of hard punches on Fury's torso if he's finding the head too elusive a target. Also AJ won't need to be so wary of Fury's artillery as he would Wilder's.

It could go either way but i'd pick Joshua if I had to predict a winner.

[dickbelden]

ARUM just said FURY vs WILDER 7/18/2020 in VEGAS ! source:BS.com

[Enlightened-One]

ARUM just said FURY vs WILDER 7/18/2020 in VEGAS ! source:BS.com

I really do hope for boxing’s sake that Wilder loses the third bout, because if he somehow lands his lottery-winning right hand and KO’s Fury, then we could end up seeing these guys facing each other for a fourth time.

Resulting in a seemingly endless cycle of rubber matches, whereby fights are orchestrated due to immediate rematch clauses contained in contracts rather than public demand.

[oogiebe]

ARUM just said FURY vs WILDER 7/18/2020 in VEGAS ! source:BS.com

I really do hope for boxing’s sake that Wilder loses the third bout, because if he somehow lands his lottery-winning right hand and KO’s Fury, then we could end up seeing these guys facing each other for a fourth time.

Resulting in a seemingly endless cycle of rubber matches, whereby fights are orchestrated due to immediate rematch clauses contained in contracts rather than public demand.

I'd love to see Wilder pull out a win in the third fight. AJ is tied up for his next two fights. It's not like it'll get in the way at this point.

[margaret thatcher]

I really do hope for boxing’s sake that Wilder loses the third bout, because if he somehow lands his lottery-winning right hand and KO’s Fury, then we could end up seeing these guys facing each other for a fourth time.

Resulting in a seemingly endless cycle of rubber matches, whereby fights are orchestrated due to immediate rematch clauses contained in contracts rather than public demand.

I'd love to see Wilder pull out a win in the third fight. AJ is tied up for his next two fights. It's not like it'll get in the way at this point.

Why don't they just get married or something

[oogiebe]

I'd love to see Wilder pull out a win in the third fight. AJ is tied up for his next two fights. It's not like it'll get in the way at this point.

Why don't they just get married or something

Huh?

[margaret thatcher]

4 fights in like 2 years? Dudes should just get a room then