Should Wilder demand the rematch against Fury immediately ?

[oogiebe]

4 fights in like 2 years? Dudes should just get a room then

if wilder were to win the third fight...does it make a fourth fight compelling?

[margaret thatcher]

Eh, it just gets stale when the same guys become glued to each other, I've never been a fan of the fighting over and over and over thing, I like to see new matchups, they don't need to spend their careers on each other. For that reason I'd prefer Fury to win again and then Josh or a good contender

[ewenhay]

4 fights in like 2 years? Dudes should just get a room then

if wilder were to win the third fight...does it make a fourth fight compelling?

Why do you want Wilder to win a third fight?

[margaret thatcher]

if wilder were to win the third fight...does it make a fourth fight compelling?

Why do you want Wilder to win a third fight?

Oogs is a Bomb Squader

[coneye]

I for one , hope to see him fight Fury for a third time ,,, I also hope that Fury belts the pisser out of him again , , I hope Breland DOES'NT throw the towel in , and i hope every time the ref is looking close , Fury backs off , lets him stagger , then moves in and belts him some more, forcing the ref to allow it and give him a sustained beating for 12 rnds , then we may get rid of Wilder .

Just cannot take to the man , never have especielly since he went to a gym to belt a retard , because the retard done what retards do , and acted like a retard .

The biggest fight , in boxing for years , he turned into a racist us and them situation , or at least he tried , with all that black power , racist ring walk shite , very uncool very unprofesional , i know its buisness , but its a sport and one of the few areas in life where race does'nt come into it and racism in a gym is generally not tolerated , but this clown tried to score browny points with racism in america .


And thirdly the amount of excuses and utter bollocks coming out of his mouth , after he got his ass whooping is actually cringeworthy and embarrassing , his advisors should really just sit him down and say ....

Detonay , listen here ,, the truth is you had a manufactured carreer , we know the crowd love a ko artist , and we knew you can bang , so we fed you 40 stiffs and an old man who were tailor made for you to KO ,,,, But with Fury we made a mistake , we thought you would be fighting a huge overweight , mentally ill peron who has'nt fought for a couple of years , and too top it off he was a brit who usually are cannon fodder , but we underestimated him , and he beat you 10 out of 12 rnds ,,, now in the rematch he's thrashed you ,, ,

So Wilder , shut the fook up , go buy a new ferrari and spend your next couple of years driving around Alabama playing King of Alabama ,, before the inland revenue , and the mothers of your kids , take all your money

[oogiebe]

if wilder were to win the third fight...does it make a fourth fight compelling?

Why do you want Wilder to win a third fight?

I'm sorry, where did I say who I wanted to win?

[oogiebe]

Why do you want Wilder to win a third fight?

Oogs is a Bomb Squader

[Paci]

4 fights in like 2 years? Dudes should just get a room then

After the 5th they can get married and have a sixth fight for who is the bottom.

[margaret thatcher]

Why do you want Wilder to win a third fight?

I'm sorry, where did I say who I wanted to win?

So you'd love to see Wilder to win but you don't actually want him to win?

[oogiebe]

I'm sorry, where did I say who I wanted to win?

So you'd love to see Wilder to win but you don't actually want him to win?

[margaret thatcher]

Why do you want Wilder to win a third fight?

I'm sorry, where did I say who I wanted to win?

Am I missing something here?

You posted just on the other page "I'd love to see Wilder pull out a win in the third fight"

[oogiebe]

I'm sorry, where did I say who I wanted to win?

So you'd love to see Wilder to win but you don't actually want him to win?

It would make things even more chaotic actually. Like I posted earlier, AJ is tied up with mandos anyway. It wouldn't delay a Fury/AJ fight. If Fury stays focused he wins anyway and collects a king's ransom.

[oogiebe]

I'm sorry, where did I say who I wanted to win?

Am I missing something here?

You posted just on the other page "I'd love to see Wilder pull out a win in the third fight"

No you didn't. My earlier post wasn't born out of my being a DW fan or not. see my latest post.

[KiwiRider]

Eh, it just gets stale when the same guys become glued to each other, I've never been a fan of the fighting over and over and over thing, I like to see new matchups, they don't need to spend their careers on each other. For that reason I'd prefer Fury to win again and then Josh or a good contender

Yeah, trilogys are not that great. Maybe Pac JMM was the exception. This one isn't.

[margaret thatcher]

Ya, and then a fourth fight too straight after that? I mean there are some guys who are just around the same level, even if we hypothetically assume that Wilder and Fury keep splitting fights, I'd rather not see it over and over and over.

[candyslim]

I don't really want to see a third fight between them never mind a fourth. I want to see Fury fight Joshua for the undisputed title and Wilder fight the winner. Dillian Whyte deserves his shot though he's been waiting forever.

I don't even want to see Canelo vs Golovkin III as good as their first two were. Trilogies are normally desirable only when there are no other meaningful matches crying out to be made. Ok there are exceptions to that but this isn't one of them.

[joshj909]

Has Wilder used the tampered gloves excuse yet or is it just his fans?

[Enlightened-One]

So you'd love to see Wilder to win but you don't actually want him to win?

It would make things even more chaotic actually. Like I posted earlier, AJ is tied up with mandos anyway. It wouldn't delay a Fury/AJ fight. If Fury stays focused he wins anyway and collects a king's ransom.

If Fury beats Wilder this June/July, he’s still got to face Dillian Whyte within seven months.

Tyson won’t be able to fight AJ and Whyte within a seven month period.

So Fury’s rematch against Wilder will delay the AJ bout, unless Dillian Whyte agrees to step-aside or Tyson vacates the WBC title.

And who the hell knows what’ happen if Wilder avenges his loss to Fury.

[Finkel]

It looks as well as though Wilder is being positioned for a run at the WBA belt, should he lose to Fury

WBA have him at #2, and given that Trevor Bryan is #1, it wouldn't surprise me if Don King and Al Haymon negotiate a final eliminator.

Bryan gets a payday and Wilder gets an quick route to Joshua

[Bandog]

At 34 yrs old, a shot to get his belt back that may not be there otherwise. People may think I'm nuts, but AJ has a very good chance of beating Fury. It's not like it is a huge career risk for Wilder. More like an opportunity for redemption. He always will have a puncher's chance. In the old days guys would fight 3-4 weeks later after worse beatings and would be fine.

Add to that, Fury's claim of going on a coke binge after his win may work out in Wilder's favor. Fury may think he doesn't have to train this time.

If I thought you were nuts Bandog it wouldn't be because of anything you typed here. I agree Deontay has a puncher's chance, he hasn't suddenly become toothless over night. Also he can't afford to decline the rematch: The chance may not come again for one reason or another, and he's not getting any younger.

As you rightly point out Fury is not guaranteed to beat Joshua. AJ might not hit as hard as Deontay, but he's a far better boxer, far more adaptable, and I'd back him to land plenty of hard punches on Fury's torso if he's finding the head too elusive a target. Also AJ won't need to be so wary of Fury's artillery as he would Wilder's.

It could go either way but i'd pick Joshua if I had to predict a winner.

Agreed. Well said.

[Enlightened-One]

It looks as well as though Wilder is being positioned for a run at the WBA belt, should he lose to Fury

WBA have him at #2, and given that Trevor Bryan is #1, it wouldn't surprise me if Don King and Al Haymon negotiate a final eliminator.

Bryan gets a payday and Wilder gets an quick route to Joshua

AJ has mandatory defences against Pulev (IBF) and Usyk (WBO) to perform. They will be fulfilled before Joshua can face his WBA mandatory challenger.

Fury has to face Wilder next and then within a seven-month period, Dillian Whyte, since he’s the WBC’s mandatory challenger.

The main four governing bodies also usually allow mandatory title defences to be pushed back, as long as their champions are only delaying their obligations due to engaging in title unification bouts.

So assuming Wilder loses the third Fury bout, the American probably won’t receive another shot at the title until 2022 at the earliest, because he’ll be pushed to the back of the queue (at least behind the aforementioned fighters).

I can’t imagine the utterly rancid WBA stripping AJ of his championship, because it’ll result in them missing out on huge sanctioning fees, hence the reason why they have so many belts (i.e. Joe Joyce = GOLD; Mahmoud Charr = Regular; and Trevor Bryan = Interim).

From a legal perspective, the WBA almost certainly won't be able to strip AJ, due to their handling of Trevor Bryan and Mahmoud Charr's title reigns.

[Finkel]

That is very true, but as the IBF, WBO and WBC mandatory challengers have already been established, for Wilder the quickest route to a mandatory position would be the WBA (should he lose to Fury).

[Enlightened-One]

That is very true, but as the IBF, WBO and WBC mandatory challengers have already been established, for Wilder the quickest route to a mandatory position would be the WBA (should he lose to Fury).

Even though the only way for Wilder to force one of the world champions to face him (assuming he loses the third Fury bout), is to become the mandatory challenger…. the quickest route is actually for the PBC/Showtime/Fox to submit an absolutely massive and unmissable payday offer to Tyson or AJ.

[candyslim]

I imagine Fury and Wilder will have to resign themselves to a much smaller payment package in the rematch. They got well overpaid this time if the PPV buys and reported break-even number are accurate.

If the networks and promoters took a bashing this time they are sure to be a bit more circumspect in their purse offers for the third fight, especially in view of the one-sided nature of the second fight. They will have to expect that there will be less interest in a third one from the public

[Enlightened-One]

I imagine Fury and Wilder will have to resign themselves to a much smaller payment package in the rematch. They got well overpaid this time if the PPV buys and reported break-even number are accurate.

If the networks and promoters took a bashing this time they are sure to be a bit more circumspect in their purse offers for the third fight, especially in view of the one-sided nature of the second fight. They will have to expect that there will be less interest in a third one from the public

Yeah, you’re absolutely correct!

The only reason why the networks and the PBC will be eager for Wilder to face Fury again, is to regain control over the WBC title, as the winner of the rematch will inevitably be given a massive opportunity to engage in a highly lucrative title unification super-fight against Anthony Joshua.

So Wilder’s handlers and home network may be tempted to risk staging a loss-making third Fury bout, given the potential commercial rewards from victory.