Who could beat Wilder?

[Rgoodwin]

Whyte still has no chance. During has a weak chin. Joshua has a better chance with a blueprint out there. Maybe an in shape Ruiz if he uses smart pressure and doesn't get hit. I still think very few beat a limited guy like Wilder. He might not have many tools in the bag but the one he has is special.

Agreed. And lets' not take away a most remarkable performance by Fury.

That right Wilder hit Fury with in the 1st would stop most men

[oogiebe]

Ya, remember when 29 year old AJ was a totally ruined, finished fighter because of a single loss

This. They say power is the last thing to go and getting stopped is not going to take that away from Deontay.

1 - AJ wasn't deemed absolutely finished by most posters. It was questioned because how he reacted in the ring. Smiling; seemingly giving up at the end. His second fight didn't fill me completely with confidence, but he did come back and showed a terrific ability to change styles to do what it took to win. Fighting Pulev should help him restore any remainging lost confidence.

2 - Yes, Wilder is a power puncher, but he got beaten up badly and relies on his confidence to land as he is not a powerful man like George Foreman; Earnie Shavers ,and can't deliver his right effectively from the back foot consistantly. He relies on speed and delivery, moving his whole body forward behind those punches. I think he beats most everyone else, but Fury showed he is the stronger man and of course we all knew he (Fury) is the far better boxer. Wilder still may be affected adversely moving forward. Just like AJ, we'll see in his next fight.

[Tony1244]

Unless Wilder is in a free fall, I'd favor him against everyone except AJ and Fury, and he has a chance there as well.

[Finkel]

I think there are two things needed to beat Wilder.
1, A good chin.
2, A come forward style.

Wilder can't land his equaliser on the back foot. So pressuring him, walking him backwards and landing to the body early will help keep him off guard and weaken the stilt legs.
Only the fittest, focused guys could pull it off. As we have seen, Wilder can drop you in the 12th if you don't beat him up enough.
So, a fit Parker/Ruiz/Fury/AJ and Usyk if he starts early.
Povitkin if he can get it done in under 5, after that he slows down and gets caught and stopped.
An outside bet would be Dubois.

Interestingly, Wilder in the past has seemed most interested in fighting Dubois in that last. Or perhaps I should say, unsurprisingly...

[sturm vogel]

Here is my list

Fury obviously would be favorite if the rematch happens.

AJ would also be my pick to win the fight if it happened now. If guys like Fury and Ortiz have what it takes to put Wilder on queer street then AJ certainly has the tools to stop him. AJ is also the better boxer of the two.

Ruiz is the next one that I think would slap wilder silly. Old man Ortiz was really close to stopping Wilder. Ruiz with hes faster hands would definitely have what it takes to finish the job. The fight would be AJ vs Ruiz 1 all over again.

I think that Usyk would win on points. Fury managed avoid the punch for 17 rounds so I believe the faster and more skilled Usyk would manage the 12 rounds. Only one winner on points in that one.

Next one is Parker. He might be the most underrated HW boxer at the moment. I would pick him to beat Whyte in rematch. I think he lost the first one because of that head clash early on. He almost got Whyte out of there in the end. Parker also did well against AJ. He fought both the referee and AJ on the night and still finished on hes feet. Parker has the skills and toughness to win this one.

Whyte would also have at least 50/50 chance to beat Wilder. He has plenty of power to hurt him and could pressure him out of hes comfort zone. If guys like Szpilka and Washington were good enough to take rounds and avoid that punch for combined 13 rounds then Whyte who is lot better than either one could pull it off.

So 6 guys on my list. Wilder would obviously have punchers chance against everyone of them but I think he would loose at least 4 of the fights if they all happened.

Fair list and fair reasoning.

[gilgamesh]

Now that the bum squad myth has been busted...

Who do you think are the boxers that have at least 50/50 chance in the squared circle against Wilder?

Depending on how his confidence is affected he may be considerably more vulnerable now than he was before.

For instance him vs AJ would be even money now I think whereas I would've had it in Wilder's favor if you'd asked me 2 weeks ago.

[gilgamesh]

Here is my list

Fury obviously would be favorite if the rematch happens.

AJ would also be my pick to win the fight if it happened now. If guys like Fury and Ortiz have what it takes to put Wilder on queer street then AJ certainly has the tools to stop him. AJ is also the better boxer of the two.

Ruiz is the next one that I think would slap wilder silly. Old man Ortiz was really close to stopping Wilder. Ruiz with hes faster hands would definitely have what it takes to finish the job. The fight would be AJ vs Ruiz 1 all over again.

I think that Usyk would win on points. Fury managed avoid the punch for 17 rounds so I believe the faster and more skilled Usyk would manage the 12 rounds. Only one winner on points in that one.

Next one is Parker. He might be the most underrated HW boxer at the moment. I would pick him to beat Whyte in rematch. I think he lost the first one because of that head clash early on. He almost got Whyte out of there in the end. Parker also did well against AJ. He fought both the referee and AJ on the night and still finished on hes feet. Parker has the skills and toughness to win this one.

Whyte would also have at least 50/50 chance to beat Wilder. He has plenty of power to hurt him and could pressure him out of hes comfort zone. If guys like Szpilka and Washington were good enough to take rounds and avoid that punch for combined 13 rounds then Whyte who is lot better than either one could pull it off.

So 6 guys on my list. Wilder would obviously have punchers chance against everyone of them but I think he would loose at least 4 of the fights if they all happened.

Good list. One big thing you missed with Ruiz is that he seems to have a REALLY good chin. AJ landed some terrific bombs in the 2nd fight against him, but never managed to hurt or drop him. I can easily see Wilder making the same mistake AJ did the first time around, and underestimating Ruiz's chances.

[Heretic]

Here is my list

Fury obviously would be favorite if the rematch happens.

AJ would also be my pick to win the fight if it happened now. If guys like Fury and Ortiz have what it takes to put Wilder on queer street then AJ certainly has the tools to stop him. AJ is also the better boxer of the two.

Ruiz is the next one that I think would slap wilder silly. Old man Ortiz was really close to stopping Wilder. Ruiz with hes faster hands would definitely have what it takes to finish the job. The fight would be AJ vs Ruiz 1 all over again.

I think that Usyk would win on points. Fury managed avoid the punch for 17 rounds so I believe the faster and more skilled Usyk would manage the 12 rounds. Only one winner on points in that one.

Next one is Parker. He might be the most underrated HW boxer at the moment. I would pick him to beat Whyte in rematch. I think he lost the first one because of that head clash early on. He almost got Whyte out of there in the end. Parker also did well against AJ. He fought both the referee and AJ on the night and still finished on hes feet. Parker has the skills and toughness to win this one.

Whyte would also have at least 50/50 chance to beat Wilder. He has plenty of power to hurt him and could pressure him out of hes comfort zone. If guys like Szpilka and Washington were good enough to take rounds and avoid that punch for combined 13 rounds then Whyte who is lot better than either one could pull it off.

So 6 guys on my list. Wilder would obviously have punchers chance against everyone of them but I think he would loose at least 4 of the fights if they all happened.

Good list. One big thing you missed with Ruiz is that he seems to have a REALLY good chin. AJ landed some terrific bombs in the 2nd fight against him, but never managed to hurt or drop him. I can easily see Wilder making the same mistake AJ did the first time around, and underestimating Ruiz's chances.

Yeah that is excellent point.

The shot that put Ruiz down in fight 1 would have finished the night against almost all other boxers. That was beautiful shot. Ruiz has an insane chin.

[margaret thatcher]

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, Fury is a lot better than most those guys, Wilder might well have started his route down but right now he's still beating all but a couple guys at most

[Lenny Cravats]

After Ruiz beat AJ I thought he could have the beating of Wilder. Really fast hands, good fundamentals and a solid chin. Then he got fatter and didn't seem too fired-up for the second AJ fight - it was as if he hadn't considered the fact that AJ might change strategy.
I'm not sure what we will see of Ruiz, now that he's rich.

[danconnollyeire]

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, Fury is a lot better than most those guys, Wilder might well have started his route down but right now he's still beating all but a couple guys at most

It's way more nuanced now though. Everyone now knows how to beat him. Rush him, bully him, lean on him, throw him around. No one tried it before. Everyone from now will

[oogiebe]

Seems like a bit of an overreaction, Fury is a lot better than most those guys, Wilder might well have started his route down but right now he's still beating all but a couple guys at most

It's way more nuanced now though. Everyone now knows how to beat him. Rush him, bully him, lean on him, throw him around. No one tried it before. Everyone from now will

That may have worked for a 6'9" 270 LB Fury, but I doubt it would work for most of the rest.

[Tantum]

Corrie Sanders

[snake33]

Wilder has had eight surgeries on his right arm and hand.
Eventually his only weapon will become unusable.
Injuries do not make you stronger. and a history of throwing
the right like a wrecking ball has a price eventually.

As for who could beat Wilder ? Anybody with the skill to box
him or the guts to walk him down. At the moment that's Fury.

But I like that Dubois kid.

[Stuarty]

Corrie Sanders

Think he meant folk who're still alive

[Sammy Scaff]

Would be less than 50/50 but Id put put a few quid on Michael Hunter.

[boxing_rocks]

Some unknown young guy like Makhmudov or Jalolov could beat him.

[candyslim]

After Ruiz beat AJ I thought he could have the beating of Wilder. Really fast hands, good fundamentals and a solid chin. Then he got fatter and didn't seem too fired-up for the second AJ fight - it was as if he hadn't considered the fact that AJ might change strategy.
I'm not sure what we will see of Ruiz, now that he's rich.

Let's be honest he wasn't what you might call a fanatical trainer before he got rich. Now he wears Hagler style silk pyjamas his motivation levels are likely to be more than a little questionable.

[candyslim]

Some unknown young guy like Makhmudov or Jalolov could beat him.

True dat. Except Jalolov has gone back to the amateurs for the present hasn't he? (I still don't know how that can be allowed)

Makhmudov against Wilder, eh? FFS don't blink. That could be a war.

I wonder if his mates call him 'Ars'. if so they're a damn sight braver than I am