Heavyweights : Lennox Lewis vs. Joe Frazier

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Heavyweights : Lennox Lewis vs. Joe Frazier

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Prime vs prime.Who wins?
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Re: Heavyweights : Lennox Lewis vs. Joe Frazier

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Frazier would give a very tough bout to Lewis, but Lennox would edged it. Lewis had enough tools for that, too skilled..
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Lewis destroys him early. Under 3 rounds.
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Frazier WSD 15

Sometimes size don't matter as Frazier would make Lewis' face swollen after bobbing and weaving through his jabs and right hands and nailing him with left hooks to take a decision.
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Re: Heavyweights : Lennox Lewis vs. Joe Frazier

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Frazier Late tko Or Dec.
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Re: Heavyweights : Lennox Lewis vs. Joe Frazier

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Frazier would come and get it, and Lewis would serve it up. Lennox KO inside of 3.
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Frazier pts
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Re: Heavyweights : Lennox Lewis vs. Joe Frazier

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Lewis too big; too strong; knew how to use it. Lewis TKO round 9.
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Frazier's hype comes completely from defeating Ali once, where Ali wasn't in his prime. Frazier could never beat Ali if Ali didn't give up on his prime for 3 years. It's kind of similar to Fury's first fight with Wilder after 3 years inactivity, where Fury says that he wasn't at his best. Ali also said he kind of underestimated Frazier after the fight too. Frazier later lost to Foreman twice, and lost to Ali twice, and get KOed 3 times in these 4 fights.

Lewis would give him the same treatment.

Foreman vs. Lewis would've been a better fight imo.
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Tevfik1907 wrote: 08 Mar 2020, 18:19 Frazier's hype comes completely from defeating Ali once, where Ali wasn't in his prime. Frazier could never beat Ali if Ali didn't give up on his prime for 3 years. It's kind of similar to Fury's first fight with Wilder after 3 years inactivity, where Fury says that he wasn't at his best. Ali also said he kind of underestimated Frazier after the fight too. Frazier later lost to Foreman twice, and lost to Ali twice, and get KOed 3 times in these 4 fights.

Lewis would give him the same treatment.

Foreman vs. Lewis would've been a better fight imo.
Ali was in his prime against Frazier. He had no tough times outside of the ring, he was banned due to not related to the sport issues. He came back a bit rusty, but he had a couple of fights to get rid of the rust. People overrate his hiatus. The main difference between periods before and after it is the level of opposition. He had never fought someone like Frazier before. Fury had much tougher times out of the ring, that's a different story. He was doing drugs, he was completely out of shape. Yet he got rid of all rust by Wilder fight, just as Ali vs Frazier. Fury simply fought in a different style, a more fitting one for Wilder to land, that's why not everything went perfect. And Ali lost just because Frazier was too much for him.
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Some guys think FOTC Frazier would beat God. Lewis, Tyson and Foreman would have destroyed him, because even with all the head movement Frazier still got hit a lot, and against those three it's a recipe for disaster.
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DrDuke wrote: 09 Mar 2020, 04:44
Tevfik1907 wrote: 08 Mar 2020, 18:19 Frazier's hype comes completely from defeating Ali once, where Ali wasn't in his prime. Frazier could never beat Ali if Ali didn't give up on his prime for 3 years. It's kind of similar to Fury's first fight with Wilder after 3 years inactivity, where Fury says that he wasn't at his best. Ali also said he kind of underestimated Frazier after the fight too. Frazier later lost to Foreman twice, and lost to Ali twice, and get KOed 3 times in these 4 fights.

Lewis would give him the same treatment.

Foreman vs. Lewis would've been a better fight imo.
Ali was in his prime against Frazier. He had no tough times outside of the ring, he was banned due to not related to the sport issues. He came back a bit rusty, but he had a couple of fights to get rid of the rust. People overrate his hiatus. The main difference between periods before and after it is the level of opposition. He had never fought someone like Frazier before. Fury had much tougher times out of the ring, that's a different story. He was doing drugs, he was completely out of shape. Yet he got rid of all rust by Wilder fight, just as Ali vs Frazier. Fury simply fought in a different style, a more fitting one for Wilder to land, that's why not everything went perfect. And Ali lost just because Frazier was too much for him.
No he wasn't.
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Re: Heavyweights : Lennox Lewis vs. Joe Frazier

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Ali clearly was not in his prime when Frazier beat him. Still it was a great victory and better than anything Lewis ever did.

Lewis was a great fighter. However, you have to look at every thing, including the negatives. Besides the obvious (Rahman and to a lesser extent McCall) he had several unimpressive performances that certainly would not have been good enough against Frazier such as the two Holyfield fights and the Mavrocic fight.
The judges had to bail him out against Mercer.

Lewis could be lethargic at times.
This fight could have gone either. There a lot of different scenarios that could have unfolded.
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Seamus wrote: 09 Mar 2020, 08:58 Some guys think FOTC Frazier would beat God. Lewis, Tyson and Foreman would have destroyed him, because even with all the head movement Frazier still got hit a lot, and against those three it's a recipe for disaster.
:lol:

Tyson couldn't beat him with a bat.
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Re: Heavyweights : Lennox Lewis vs. Joe Frazier

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Add me to the Lennox Lewis camp on this one. His style and size would be too much for Frazier, in my opinion.
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