The end of the Great White Hope: a historical not racist perspective

[thomasjkelley]

Nothing like the mention of "race" to see who's an out and out snowflake and virtue signaller! Theres been a notable shift in demographics in boxing over the past 20 years, however most whites have hero worship for big black boxers, during the Klitschko reign the huge negativity was apparent, people just couldn't get their heads around a big white champion, then all of a sudden the "other sports" had all the big athletes, boxing in 1995 and prior was basically an american based exclusive sport, all the big promoters and money based there, boxing is much more international now and even after 15 years of excellent white boxers theres still a perception the media perpetrate that "white Hopes" are second rate and a novelty! The ring p4p top 10 has 2 black fighter from the US

I think it runs deeper than that. The propaganda that western mainstream media propagates is in all encompassing indoctrination machine. From the second they can see & hear, Whites in the west are told they are evil & responsible for all the world's ills. So it is probable that they sincerely & genuinely hate themselves. It is a vicious cycle. They hate themselves so they don't take care of themselves, they don't take care of themselves so they become out of shape & depressed. Fat & depressed leads to even more serious health & emotional issues which leads them to seek unity in people like themselves. All of the sudden they find themselves surrounded by fat & depressed left wingers & they lose all sense of natural order & begin to believe that they are normal. That is why they lack all self awareness & aren't ashamed to speak openly about ideas & feelings that are completely unnatural for men to have.

[oogiebe]

Grown men are speaking. The grown men are Oogiebe and myself. Anyone who refers to another man of his race as "a brother" is al qaeda like creepy, because that's what they say. There are some people who refer to everyone as their brothers and sisters, regardless of race; they're not creepy, they're just flaky but flaky is far better than creepy. In real life I'd never get near a person like you. You guys scare they hell out of me to be honest.

We are not having a friendly debate. You are a cheerleader for other men. That's pretty weird after 10 years old.

Tony? You are a cuck, a virtue-signaling cuck. You know this just as well as I do, so I don't expect you to be offended by me saying so. You have done everything you can to renounce the fact that you have any affinity for your heritage or race, that you are a globalist man of the world. Well the only segment of people who do this are left leaning White westerners. No other people would reject their own in favor of out groups. Basically, you are an unnatural aberration. You are not normal. And I happen to know exactly why. Your DNA has undergone spiteful mutations & you now have degenerate genes. Look it up. You will recognize yourself immediately. I'm not trying to offend you & I honestly hope you are not offended. I believe you will agree with everything I say here & I hope you are grateful for the information on spiteful mutations & I hope you get an opportunity to look into it. If you are offended & not interested, I will delete this post immediately.

Comic gold such as your post should never be expunged from the public record!

[Blodhemn]

Wtf? Some of my shit was misinterpreted but ultimately became the same view as those wanting to argue in the first place. Now it's gone full retard. Perfect.

[oogiebe]

Wtf? Some of my poo was misinterpreted but ultimately became the same view as those wanting to argue in the first place. Now it's gone full retard. Perfect.

Threads evolve. Or in this case. Devolve.

[sturm vogel]

[Some things are as true as the sun rising in the East and setting in the West.

Except the sun is not "rising" or "setting". It is just how you see it.

Yeah yeah everyone knows. Doesn't mean the former is not true.

[sturm vogel]

Except the sun is not "rising" or "setting". It is just how you see it.

That was heavy.

If that was "heavy" you need to do some strengthening.

[Tony1244]

That was heavy.

If that was "heavy" you need to do some strengthening.

I wasn't talking about his other remarks, I was just talking about that one.

[Tony1244]

Tony? You are a cuck, a virtue-signaling cuck. You know this just as well as I do, so I don't expect you to be offended by me saying so. You have done everything you can to renounce the fact that you have any affinity for your heritage or race, that you are a globalist man of the world. Well the only segment of people who do this are left leaning White westerners. No other people would reject their own in favor of out groups. Basically, you are an unnatural aberration. You are not normal. And I happen to know exactly why. Your DNA has undergone spiteful mutations & you now have degenerate genes. Look it up. You will recognize yourself immediately. I'm not trying to offend you & I honestly hope you are not offended. I believe you will agree with everything I say here & I hope you are grateful for the information on spiteful mutations & I hope you get an opportunity to look into it. If you are offended & not interested, I will delete this post immediately.

Comic gold such as your post should never be expunged from the public record!

This is exceedingly enjoyable as I sip my black coffee. My favorite line is, envelope please, "a globalist man of the world."
A few people close to me are going to get a real kick out of that one.

I don't reject any group. I don't accept any group.

Perhaps you can get a little mini skirt and some pom poms on sale. I'll even give ya a cheerleader jingle. "white people are the right people, ho ho ho."

[boxing_rocks]

If that was "heavy" you need to do some strengthening.

I wasn't talking about his other remarks, I was just talking about that one.

That was my only remark in this stupid thread.

[Tony1244]

I wasn't talking about his other remarks, I was just talking about that one.

That was my only remark in this stupid thread.

Then you're batting .1000.

[Tony1244]

Tony? You are a cuck, a virtue-signaling cuck. You know this just as well as I do, so I don't expect you to be offended by me saying so. You have done everything you can to renounce the fact that you have any affinity for your heritage or race, that you are a globalist man of the world. Well the only segment of people who do this are left leaning White westerners. No other people would reject their own in favor of out groups. Basically, you are an unnatural aberration. You are not normal. And I happen to know exactly why. Your DNA has undergone spiteful mutations & you now have degenerate genes. Look it up. You will recognize yourself immediately. I'm not trying to offend you & I honestly hope you are not offended. I believe you will agree with everything I say here & I hope you are grateful for the information on spiteful mutations & I hope you get an opportunity to look into it. If you are offended & not interested, I will delete this post immediately.

Comic gold such as your post should never be expunged from the public record!

I agree. This is one of the best posts I've ever read.

[Paci]

Everybody forgets about the colorline drawn after Jack Johnson lost the belt also where the term comes from. Since well, wasn't fitting to sell to whites that the strongest, toughest and so on man of the world was black. Also, before that you didn't give a shoot to a black. Would looked bad if you lost to one. Had to wait until Joe Louis. Then the great white hope started all over again.

This ain't something that is talked about? This sh*t was all over the place in the when you look back at the culture that was produced. The f*cking 90s or something brainwashed everyone.

Edit
Not to talk about how messed up the view on science thought us that this was the case. Then again running over less advanced civilisations will make idiots in the long run that are arrogant and petty, just look at the english, french and well, every superpower in history. Might know them words, but not really the meaning of them, more or less.

[giacomino]

Comic gold such as your post should never be expunged from the public record!

I agree. This is one of the best posts I've ever read.

Really HOF material. Kind of like an alt-right meets TML post

[thomasjkelley]

Comic gold such as your post should never be expunged from the public record!

This is exceedingly enjoyable as I sip my black coffee. My favorite line is, envelope please, "a globalist man of the world."
A few people close to me are going to get a real kick out of that one.

I don't reject any group. I don't accept any group.

Perhaps you can get a little mini skirt and some pom poms on sale. I'll even give ya a cheerleader jingle. "white people are the right people, ho ho ho."

I'll do the cheer. I may even don the pom poms. I will not wear a mini skirt.

[oogiebe]

This is exceedingly enjoyable as I sip my black coffee. My favorite line is, envelope please, "a globalist man of the world."
A few people close to me are going to get a real kick out of that one.

I don't reject any group. I don't accept any group.

Perhaps you can get a little mini skirt and some pom poms on sale. I'll even give ya a cheerleader jingle. "white people are the right people, ho ho ho."

I'll do the cheer. I may even don the pom poms. I will not wear a mini skirt.

Tease.

[thomasjkelley]

I agree. This is one of the best posts I've ever read.

Really HOF material. Kind of like an alt-right meets TML post

I'm sure this is meant to be insulting in some way but I just don't get it. I don't even know what TML is

[ewenhay]

The term great white hope was completely steeped in racism.

As is much of this thread unfortunately

[thomasjkelley]

Comic gold such as your post should never be expunged from the public record!

I agree. This is one of the best posts I've ever read.

1. Awww shiiite, I may archive it myself, I didn't volunteer to take it down because I didn't want anyone to see it, I volunteered to take it down because it was not meant to be offensive in & of itself. And Tony did not ask me to take it down because he does not find the things I said to be insulting or offensive. That could be because A. I am right & he is not ashamed of who he is. Or B. I am wrong but he is secure enough in his manhood to not give a SНIТ what some stranger says about him on the internet. Either or... I can respect both

[thomasjkelley]

The term great white hope was completely steeped in racism.

As is much of this thread unfortunately

Are you whinging about racism? Do you feel victimized in some way? We are grown men, we should be able to have an adult conversation without you casting aspersions because some stranger's opinion makes you feel uncomfortable. If you have an issue, please address it directly with a genuine counter argument, not a bogus accusation of racism or bigotry or Islamophobia or any of those catchwords you have learned how to derail debates with in the past. There is nothing to gain by manipulating White guilt in this scenario. Unless of course your only motive is to shut down any conversation that makes you feel uncomfortable, which is entirely possible.

[ewenhay]

The term great white hope was completely steeped in racism.

As is much of this thread unfortunately

Are you whinging about racism? Do you feel victimized in some way? We are grown men, we should be able to have an adult conversation without you casting aspersions because some stranger's opinion makes you feel uncomfortable. If you have an issue, please address it directly with a genuine counter argument, not a bogus accusation of racism or bigotry or Islamophobia or any of those catchwords you have learned how to derail debates with in the past. There is nothing to gain by manipulating White guilt in this scenario. Unless of course your only motive is to shut down any conversation that makes you feel uncomfortable, which is entirely possible.

Considering you have 327 posts over about 9 years and a large proportion seem to be related to race or ethnicity then you seem to be a bit touchy about subjects like this.

Most of the rest seem to be attacks on other posters.

[Tony1244]

I agree. This is one of the best posts I've ever read.

1. Awww shiiite, I may archive it myself, I didn't volunteer to take it down because I didn't want anyone to see it, I volunteered to take it down because it was not meant to be offensive in & of itself. And Tony did not ask me to take it down because he does not find the things I said to be insulting or offensive. That could be because A. I am right & he is not ashamed of who he is. Or B. I am wrong but he is secure enough in his manhood to not give a SНIТ what some stranger says about him on the internet. Either or... I can respect both

Im not offended because you seem honest. I'd rather talk, debate, or even argue with someone whose views I see as extreme, than talk to a pathological liar (not you.)

Actually you were right. 500 years ago.

But today with devices like planes and FaceTime, the walls of race are less existent each year. As I write this tens of thousands of people of mixed races are flirting with each other intercontinentally. Some of them are going to procreate.

[Tony1244]

This is exceedingly enjoyable as I sip my black coffee. My favorite line is, envelope please, "a globalist man of the world."
A few people close to me are going to get a real kick out of that one.

I don't reject any group. I don't accept any group.

Perhaps you can get a little mini skirt and some pom poms on sale. I'll even give ya a cheerleader jingle. "white people are the right people, ho ho ho."

I'll do the cheer. I may even don the pom poms. I will not wear a mini skirt.

You do have a good sense of humor. Actually your jokes are better than mine. Referring to me as a globalist man of the world was comic gold.

It's basically this in a nutshell. Tony1244 walks into a bar and sits down. The guy to my left looks like Obama and the guy to my right looks like Biden. They both are basically dressed the same, they both act the same. They get into a fight over something I know nothing about. I have no bias for the guy who looks like Biden even though I look more like Biden than Obama. I'm younger and have better hair though.

The point is the white guy is not "my brother." I have one real brother and he's a fvcking idiot.

[funso banjo baby]

Can we close this thread now please

[Tony1244]

Can we close this thread now please

Ah, come on, this is just getting fun.

[margaret thatcher]

Dudes cant talk race or women without pulling their panties up their ass