Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury II - 22 February 2020

[samwbr]

Too much cash at risk for AJ to fight anyone else before hand. Plus Deontay needs 6 months off.
Wembley in July.

[Coco]

Imagine if AJ ended up fighting Wilder next!

Needs a win first doesn't he?

Why does he need a win?

[Ruthless-RKO]

Needs a win first doesn't he?

Why does he need a win?

Only for the WBO. He can’t challenge for it coming off a loss.

[Coco]

Why does he need a win?

Only for the WBO. He can’t challenge for it coming off a loss.

They can pick and choose, AJ didn't pick up a win before fighting Ruiz again.

[danconnollyeire]

He's commanded a huge size advantage over every single opponent he has ever faced, no other fighter in the sport has that advantage.

Canelo ?

Valuev Haye
Wlad Haye
Holyfield Foreman
Moorer Foreman
Jones Jr Ruiz
Andy Ruiz vs everybody
Anyone vs future Usyk
Joyce Jennings

It’s like rickys just discovered HW boxing

[coneye]

It was a real enjoable fight , , it did show up Wilders handpicked resume , I think THEY FIGHT AGAIN IT MIGHT BE THE SAME RESULT , THERE WAS NO LUCKY PUNCH , IT WAS JUST A BEATING .
but what about the ringwalk ,, Tysons was terrific , one of the best ring wals i've ever seen ,, Wilders was crap , and what was all that black power shite , should'nt be allowed , keep race and politics out of boxing ,, ,, Then the song at the end , 17000 singing along with him , LOL ,,including Arum and Fish eyes ,, and the song bye bye american pie lol

, I always felt the way to beat Wilder and beat him convincingly , and aesy was to take it up to him and bang him out ,, but too be honest I never thought Tyson was the man who could do it

So Tyson Fury , i tips me hat to ya ,, Take a bow son

[Grilling Machine]

Chisora, Wlad and Wilder all have one thing in common besides being the best names on Fury's record: they were all intimidated by him. Chisora maybe less so in their rematch, but his height and reach handicap's pretty huge. Wlad was angry with himself and would've done more in the rematch he never received.

A basic powerpuncher with the yips is no good to anyone, and Fury simply scares Wilder. I still believe Wilder has the physical tools to win 9 times in 10, but without an amazing turnaround in confidence he'll get smashed again, and he's less likely to believe in himself now more than ever. He's probably done. The only route back is if he's so cut up by this that he wants to do to Fury what Fury did to him, but he's always been innately cautious so I doubt he can change. Wlad at least had a previous history of aggression to think back on.

McDermott wasn't shook and won against Fury, and most recently we saw Wallin — a limited guy — doing okay for the first half until Fury wore him down. As he tired in the second half he became visibly fearful, and most fans say that he only survived because Fury wasn't at his best. But you know what — Fury looked about 75% to me. More beef on the arms hence a clear difference.

Will AJ be afraid? Yeah, I think so. When he fought Wlad I was really impressed with his ringwalk composure, but since then he's struggled with the added pressure of fame. Wlad was 50:50 if not 60:40, and Josh had little to lose. I back him to break Fury up and stop him late if he's not anxious, else he'll be too tentative and lose wide on the cards.

But back to this fight, I'm still surprised by Wilder's poorness. Know-how aside, he was blowing out of his arse so early, winging his shots rather than looking for his famous straight right, and he was a rabbit in the headlights every time Fury doubled his jab on the frontfoot. I keep recalling Wilder tilting his head back with his hands down as he backpedalled towards the ropes under light pressure. It was reminiscent of Haye-Bellew II in terms of hobbled footwork.

I used to wonder if he lost weight before his biggest fights from nerves and/or overtraining, so I'm thinking he must have swerved cardio to keep his gym bulk this time, doing sprints as a replacement for roadwork instead of alongside. 217 seems like his best weight for optimal power and stamina. I did say a few days ago that he seemed to have lost power at 231, but I put that down to training footage not holding water. His legs were no bigger for sure, so it was obviously a bad idea for his cardio to come in that heavy. I guess his thinking was that extra weight'd let him handle Fury's clinches for a few minutes until he landed a knockout shot. It's not like he even reached parity in the clinches anyway.

Fury's exceptionally effective at utilising his attributes, but I'll never enjoy watching him. I don't like how he throws his righthand square so that he can clinch immediately afterwards, sacrificing power to close the gap after he's thrown. He only committed to powershots when it was clear Wilder was rocking on the ropes without reply. Fury used his elbow to force Cunningham's head towards his KO punch, and I was reminded of that by the way he used his open left hand to cover Wilder's eyes at the end as he threw his rights. He's only really missing Lewis' headholding uppercuts from his repertoire. I don't blame him because we all do whatever works, I just don't admire it is all. I'd do the same in his shoes.

If he fights the winner of Dubois-Joyce I think there's a fair chance they won't choke, because just like AJ on the up, they won't be expected to win. I like those guys quite a bit more than the erstwhile top three, so bias is creeping in in terms of me hoping they come through. Wilder could've been the best of the lot, but he's mentally weaker than Fury — no less tough — and that's what it came down to for him.

[banjo]

Jay Deas is a tit with his whole "i'd have let him go out on his shield" spiel, Wilder was done, his damaged ear affected his balance, there was no magical big KO coming to bail him out, Mark Breland stopped this man from getting an even more serious beating.

If Wilder is serious about a third fight then he needs to have a rest and then get a proper trainer.

[Stuarty]

Jay Deas is a tit with his whole "i'd have let him go out on his shield" spiel, Wilder was done, his damaged ear affected his balance, there was no magical big KO coming to bail him out, Mark Breland stopped this man from getting an even more serious beating.

If Wilder is serious about a third fight then he needs to have a rest and then get a proper trainer.

Yip! Nothing worse than a trainer being brave on behalf of their fighter! Twat!

[banjo]

Jay Deas is a tit with his whole "i'd have let him go out on his shield" spiel, Wilder was done, his damaged ear affected his balance, there was no magical big KO coming to bail him out, Mark Breland stopped this man from getting an even more serious beating.

If Wilder is serious about a third fight then he needs to have a rest and then get a proper trainer.

Yip! Nothing worse than a trainer being brave on behalf of their fighter! Twat!

I know Deas is just doing what Wilder had told him to do but sometimes you've got to take matters into your own hands and save these boxers from themselves.

[danconnollyeire]

Jay Deas is a tit with his whole "i'd have let him go out on his shield" spiel, Wilder was done, his damaged ear affected his balance, there was no magical big KO coming to bail him out, Mark Breland stopped this man from getting an even more serious beating.

If Wilder is serious about a third fight then he needs to have a rest and then get a proper trainer.

Agreed. He would've been KTFO in a round or two. He could've move his head or keep his hands up. Kept just stumbling in range and the body punches meant he was breathing so heavy

The fight reminded me of Froch vs Bute a little. Bute was the big puncher and expected to win by most and Froch was like fvck the and walked straight through the 'power'. Fury did that on a bigger scale

[danconnollyeire]

Yip! Nothing worse than a trainer being brave on behalf of their fighter! Twat!

I know Deas is just doing what Wilder had told him to do but sometimes you've got to take matters into your own hands and save these boxers from themselves.

Yep the body shots sapped the absolute life out of him. That biggest one punch of all time wasn't there, he lost the minerals to throw it. He looked so fvcked. It's like Deas wanted him ktfo

[PredatorHayds]

WOW. Incredible fight.

Fury just battered him. Didn’t Let Wilder set from the get-go.

He controlled the fight. I really didn’t see that coming.
I stayed up and my heart was racing at the end. Didn’t get to bed til 9.
Last time I was this impressed/shocked by a performance was when Pac-Man destroyed Cotto.

That was a career defining fight for both.
The world is Tyson’s Oyster. Wilder will take the 3rd fight and be a shell of himself.

It wouldn’t happen but imagine the numbers of AJ-Fury on BBC or ITV. It would do 30 million.

Bet there’s a few fighters fancying the Wilder job now.

I’ve written Fury off loads. I didn’t think the Klit fight was a masterclass.
But Saturday was special. It’s a fight that will live with me forever.
The Gypsy King is number #1.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Or quicker highlights

[Cyclops]

Or quicker highlights

Never gets old, this fight

[margaret thatcher]

What was the lamer excuse, the heavy blackpower vest or that Fury illegally slapped him

[Cyclops]

What was the lamer excuse, the heavy blackpower vest or that Fury illegally slapped him

It's the floppy gloves for me.

[JC]

What was the lamer excuse, the heavy blackpower vest or that Fury illegally slapped him

It's the floppy gloves for me.

To be fair, I think it was his fans that created glove-gate.

[PredatorHayds]

It's the floppy gloves for me.

To be fair, I think it was his fans that created glove-gate.

Steve Cunningham is pushing glove-gate quite hard.

[Ruthless-RKO]

Steve Cunningham is pushing glove-gate quite hard.

He is..

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2020/03 ... -gloves-3/

[IRONFIST]

The bitter yanks can't take it that we now own all slices of the heavyweight crown cake, the UK once again punching well above it's weight.

[Cyclops]

Steve Cunningham is pushing glove-gate quite hard.

He is..

https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2020/03 ... -gloves-3/

Pathetic.

[Ruthless-RKO]

[margaret thatcher]

Those slaps weren't even from the 2nd fight

[Tony1244]

An entertaining thread would be the lamest excuses in boxing history. Foreman had some bulldozers after Zaire.

Glovegate and jacketgate would certainly be on the list.