Classic fights I've watched recently

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Bodyshot3 wrote: 20 Mar 2020, 16:12 @Syntax....wise move by SRL, sometimes you win big by being at your smartest and elusive outside the ring :salut:

If you get signed to fight Benn you were hugely unlikely to be doing a happy jig I suspect....you really had to hope you were getting paid feckin' well and that there was a big title in the offing and maybe no rematch clause :lol:
Never a truer word spoken. :TU: :clap: :D
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Oscar De La Hoya vs Fernando Vargas




De La Hoya stops Vargas in the 11th round of a Super Welterweight unification fight, excellent win for De La Hoya once again showing his mettle against a bigger stronger fighter, after midway to was even stevens, De La Hoya's jab was key but Vargas was landing the power punches especially when he trapped De La Hoya on the ropes


When the fight passed thr midway point De La Hoya stepped it up a gear and pulled ahead, jab superb and he was bringing the right hand into play, also breaking Vargas down to the body and he was starting to look like a beating man, De La Hoya rocked Vargas right at the end of the 10th with a left hook but the bell went, still De La Hoya came out in the 11th patient behind the jab and then he put Vargas down from the left, Vargas was unsteady when he got up, De La Hoya trapped him in a corner and was landing clean shots to head and body, Vargas's head was being pinballed when the ref stepped in, brilliant win for De La Hoya
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Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz I (WBA/WBO/Ring Lightweight titles)

Pure war this, relentless pace set by Diaz and his volume punching caused Marquez early issues for a lead on the scorecards however Marquez bide his time and began to land a number of trademark powerful counter shots alongside the better body work.

Once Marquez started to time Diaz more frequently and take away his left hook he took over the fight - Diaz failed to clinch after he suffered his first knockdown and the finish from Marquez in the 9th was clinical.
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Oscar De La Hoya vs Yori Boy Campas



De La Hoya stops Campas in the 7th to retain his World Super Welterweight title, Campas's corner throwing the towel in after there man was giving a boxing lesson, De La Hoya not as sharp up at 154 as he was down thr lower weights and his jab was fairly quiet but his combination punching was excellent from the 1st round, he was nailing Campas clean with 2 handed bursts of punches then getting out of the way


Campas lost his mouthpiece several times after after taking clean combos and in the 6th lost a point, De La Hoya wasnt really rocking him as such but he was landing clean at will and it was a methodical beatdown, Campas wasnt winning anything and after another attack from De La Hoya in round 7, the Campas corner had seen enough and pulled their man, De La Hoya's right hand was surprisingly his better weapon
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NoScoutingReports wrote: 22 Mar 2020, 11:04 Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz I (WBA/WBO/Ring Lightweight titles)

Pure war this, relentless pace set by Diaz and his volume punching caused Marquez early issues for a lead on the scorecards however Marquez bide his time and began to land a number of trademark powerful counter shots alongside the better body work.

Once Marquez started to time Diaz more frequently and take away his left hook he took over the fight - Diaz failed to clinch after he suffered his first knockdown and the finish from Marquez in the 9th was clinical.
Great fight. Love the finish from Marquez. One of my favourites in recent memory :TU:
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PredatorHayds wrote: 23 Mar 2020, 04:09
NoScoutingReports wrote: 22 Mar 2020, 11:04 Juan Manuel Marquez vs Juan Diaz I (WBA/WBO/Ring Lightweight titles)

Pure war this, relentless pace set by Diaz and his volume punching caused Marquez early issues for a lead on the scorecards however Marquez bide his time and began to land a number of trademark powerful counter shots alongside the better body work.

Once Marquez started to time Diaz more frequently and take away his left hook he took over the fight - Diaz failed to clinch after he suffered his first knockdown and the finish from Marquez in the 9th was clinical.
Great fight. Love the finish from Marquez. One of my favourites in recent memory :TU:
Epic finish, no doubt.
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handsofstone wrote: 11 Mar 2020, 04:20 Oscar De La Hoya vs Jorge Paez



De La Hoya KOs Paez in the 2nd round to win the vacant World Lightweight title, close 1st round Paez happy to try trade with De La Hoya but in the 2nd De La Hoya stunned him with a left hook then a 2 fisted flurry had Paez in trouble, another big left nailed him and he crumbled to the canvas for the count
Watched this fight over the weekend. From a distance it looked like Paez was wearing a helmet!
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milpool wrote: 23 Mar 2020, 10:29
handsofstone wrote: 11 Mar 2020, 04:20 Oscar De La Hoya vs Jorge Paez



De La Hoya KOs Paez in the 2nd round to win the vacant World Lightweight title, close 1st round Paez happy to try trade with De La Hoya but in the 2nd De La Hoya stunned him with a left hook then a 2 fisted flurry had Paez in trouble, another big left nailed him and he crumbled to the canvas for the count
Watched this fight over the weekend. From a distance it looked like Paez was wearing a helmet!
Deserved to get iced for that alone
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Mike Tyson v Danny Williams

I've seen this one a few times before but thought I'd give it another look.

A very pro Tyson crowd was clearly expecting a public execution with Williams playing the role of fall guy. It was a pretty good fight to watch, all action with bombs being thrown from both Tyson and WIlliams from the off.
Williams did very well to stay on his feet in the first round after being rocked hard and although his legs buckled he managed to cling on for dear life and actually ended the round well.
Tyson was in no great physical condition and tired badly and it was evident that his plan was to get Williams out of there as quick as possible as I think he knew he didn't have many rounds in him. Danny knew that if he could survive the early onslaught he would start to take over and that's exactly what happened. Tyson gassed in the forth and some good combinations at the tail end of the round put Tyson on his backside and that was that.
This fight proved how good Danny was in his prime, he boxed well, had the nous to cling on and frustrate Tyson and he paced himself beautifully.

Had Tyson managed to get Williams out there early it would have been likely that he would have got the shot against Vitali and that really wouldn't have ended well for the former champion.
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Oscar De La Hoya vs Felix Sturm



De La Hoya wins a close controversial UD to become World Middleweight champion, 115-113 across the board, I'd probably say Sturm deserved it but I've seen worse robberies, De La Hoya won the first half and Sturm the second, De La Hoya came out aggressive attacking the body of the bigger Sturm obviously hoping to tire him down the stretch, I'd say a good 80% of De La Hoya's punches were targeting the body and he was really planting his feet and firing out quick bursts but although he was winning a lot of the early round he wasmt putting a dent in Sturm

De La Hoya seemed to run out of gas by the midway point and that was when it became Sturm's fight, his jab was excellent , sharp and accurate and he began to pick De La Hoya off , bringing the right hand into play, De La Hoya looked bewildered by it and he looked out of ideas, Sturm's confidence grew each round and even fought the last 2 rounds southpaw and was nailing De La Hoya flush with lefts, De La Hoya looked spent by the end and Sturm was on his toes laterally moving to not allow De La Hoya to nick the rounds

Still unfortunately for Sturm this was Vegas with a Hopkins unification on the cards and it was De La Hoya who got the decision and became boxings first 6 weight world champ
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Enzo Maccarinelli v Alexander Frenkel

Surprisingly I'd never seen this fight before so thought I'd give it a quick watch last night.

Frenkel took the first round and looked pretty impressive in doing so, although I suspect that Enzo was just sizing up his opponent and feeling his way into the fight.
From the second round Enzo took control and although he took a few too many unnecessary shots, it looked like Frenkel was tiring and that Enzo would wear him down eventually. Nicky Piper suggested that Enzo would catch up with him and stop him around the 7th or 8th and you couldn't really argue with that at the time.
Throughout the seventh round there was no sign of what was to come and Frenkel looked tired and was becoming more ragged. However a brilliantly delivered left hand land bang on the chin of Enzo put him down which he did well to get up from. However, he was completely gone and as the referee waved them on, Frenkel finished it off with a left, right combination.

Enzo was down for a while and was furiously pushing the oxygen away but they got him back on the stool and he eventually took some.
The commentators were writing him off and suggesting that was it for Enzo but as we all know, he came back and went on to knock out a very faded Roy Jones Jr.
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Juan Diaz vs Acelino Freitas



Diaz stops Freitas after 8 in a World Lightweight unification fight, Diaz just too strong and fresh for Freitas who did start off well picking off the rushing Diaz with some cute counters but Diaz was aggressive and relentless and spent all night trying to bully Frietas against the ropes


Diaz rocked Freitas in the 4th and had him reeling around the ring but Freitas used all his experience to hang on, still thr damage was done and the tide shifted in Diaz's favour and it was a case of Diaz working Freitas over with non stop infighting, banging to the body, Diaz rocked Freitas right at the end of the 8th with a left uppercut and Freitas's knees dipped but he made it to the bell, still he was done and he never came out for round 9
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Barry Michael v Najib Daho II

These two fought an eight rounder seven years earlier which Daho won. But in 1986 Michael was defending his IBF super feather title against the Moroccan born Manc Daho in a decent, all action little scrap.
Daho started brilliantly and look very sharp in the first but from then on he seemed to become overwhelmed by Michael's constant coming forward.
Daho tired down the stretch and was nearly put down in the eleventh but managed to hang on. He came out for the last round and cut Michael around the right eye but that just spurred the champion on and he kept coming forward and put paid to any thoughts Daho might have had of pulling off an unlikely win.
I scored it 117-111 to Michael, the officials calling it 118-110 & 116-112 x 2.
It was strange in that the ring announcer read the scores out in a way that you knew Michael had won after he called out the second judge's score. Mind you, it all added to a unique show which was held on a Saturday afternoon at the Granada TV studios in Manchester.

Michael called out Barry McGuigan in the post fight interview but he ended up with Rocky Lockridge in Windsor, losing his title and never fighting again.
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James Buster Douglas vs Greg Page



Douglas outpoints Page over 10 in a non title Heavyweight fight, not a classic and no drama but Douglas looked trim and sharp, unloaded some nice looking combinations and did have Page down in the middle rounds but he seemed to shoulder Page on his way down and it was ruled a push, Page wasnt dominated but all the eye catching stuff came from Douglas, nice jabbing as well
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Nice mention. :TU:
Evidence that Buster wasn't just a on hit wonder.
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milpool wrote: 24 Mar 2020, 08:44 Mike Tyson v Danny Williams

I've seen this one a few times before but thought I'd give it another look.

A very pro Tyson crowd was clearly expecting a public execution with Williams playing the role of fall guy. It was a pretty good fight to watch, all action with bombs being thrown from both Tyson and WIlliams from the off.
Williams did very well to stay on his feet in the first round after being rocked hard and although his legs buckled he managed to cling on for dear life and actually ended the round well.
Tyson was in no great physical condition and tired badly and it was evident that his plan was to get Williams out of there as quick as possible as I think he knew he didn't have many rounds in him. Danny knew that if he could survive the early onslaught he would start to take over and that's exactly what happened. Tyson gassed in the forth and some good combinations at the tail end of the round put Tyson on his backside and that was that.
This fight proved how good Danny was in his prime, he boxed well, had the nous to cling on and frustrate Tyson and he paced himself beautifully.

Had Tyson managed to get Williams out there early it would have been likely that he would have got the shot against Vitali and that really wouldn't have ended well for the former champion.

- By that time Tyson had become something of a 4rd sideshow. He hadn't fought in a year and a half probably due to never ending legal problems.

What I also recall he was having leg problems prior and in fact tore his left knee in the first rd that required surgery. He used to have the best footwork in boxing, but now looked to be skeetering around on 70 yr old man bird legs. In the 3rd rd he landed a perfect LHook to Williams' body, the shock of which almost collapses Tyson instead of Williams.

Every time he hurt Williams which was often, he'd collapse his 265lb frame on Tyson which only exacerbated the pain and helplessness. The Feds and other creditors were getting over 90% of his purses by then, the tail end of the public slow motion train wreck he had become. As he said in the McBride fiasco, he just didn't have the guts to fight anymore and that was that.
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Watched Katsidis v Casamayor. Kat was being hyped as the next Gatti by Hbo. The fight was epic
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Tony Tucker vs James Buster Douglas



Tucker stops Douglas in the 10th to become World Heavyweight champion, close fight all the way up until the finish, both men boxed well in spells, some good jabs exchanges, not a lot of combination punching from either man, it was all single shots, Tucker a decent stand up boxer when he does throw, Douglas did have his moments but it was all to play for when in the 10th Tucker steadied Douglas with a big right hand and he showed great finishing instincts and good accuracy, he was teeing off on Douglas when the ref stepped in
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Watched Liston vs Henry Clark last night.

Liston was way passed his prime but his jab was still there. He fought like a 1990 George Foreman.

Clark was a good boxer but was brought up too quickly.
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Steve Cruz v Roger Arevalo

This was a non title fight for the newly crowned featherweight champion Steve Cruz in his first outing since beating Barry McGuigan for the title.
As this was held in Fort Worth, Cruz's hometown, I'm assuming it was meant to be a comfortable homecoming for the champion. It was far from that.

Cruz looked in control for the first three rounds but from then on the young Mexican came forward and gave Cruz all sorts of problems.
Cruz won it by a split decision, the two judges scoring for Cruz gave it to him by a ridiculously wide margin. I scored it 95-94 to Cruz but that took into account a point deduction for Arevalo for a low blow in round 8. A draw might have been a fair result as Arevalo was the aggressor for large parts of the fight and finished the stronger of the two. Had this been a 12 rounder, I'm not sure Cruz would have lasted the distance.
It was a decent ten rounds of action and watching it made me wonder how Arevalo didn't achieve more in his career.

I'm sure this fight had McGuigan scratching his head as to how he lost to the Texan a few months earlier and Antonio Esparragoza, the man who would relieve him of his title, licking his lips.
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James Buster Douglas vs Trevor Berbick



Douglas comfortably outpoints Berbick over 10 rounds in a non title Heavyweight fight, Berbick was never in the fight but did show resolve and kept on trying but he was outboxed, outworked and outlanded, Douglas's jab was top drawer, his combination punching was great and he fought a great fight, he hurt Berbick a few times but Berbick took them well TBF and never looked like being stopped


Douglas was fit and focused and schooled Berbick really
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James Buster Douglas vs Oliver McCall



Douglas outpoints McCall over 10 rounds in a boring non title Heavyweight fight, McCall obviously tough, strong and durable but predictable, all he had was the hopeful big right hand which only landed a couple times, Douglas was more workmanlike, got on the jab, kept it simple and let go the odd combination to keep him a step ahead of the plodding McCall, there was nothing to write home about but Douglas run out a comfortable winner
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milpool wrote: 26 Mar 2020, 18:37 Barry Michael v Najib Daho II

These two fought an eight rounder seven years earlier which Daho won. But in 1986 Michael was defending his IBF super feather title against the Moroccan born Manc Daho in a decent, all action little scrap.
Daho started brilliantly and look very sharp in the first but from then on he seemed to become overwhelmed by Michael's constant coming forward.
Daho tired down the stretch and was nearly put down in the eleventh but managed to hang on. He came out for the last round and cut Michael around the right eye but that just spurred the champion on and he kept coming forward and put paid to any thoughts Daho might have had of pulling off an unlikely win.
I scored it 117-111 to Michael, the officials calling it 118-110 & 116-112 x 2.
It was strange in that the ring announcer read the scores out in a way that you knew Michael had won after he called out the second judge's score. Mind you, it all added to a unique show which was held on a Saturday afternoon at the Granada TV studios in Manchester.

Michael called out Barry McGuigan in the post fight interview but he ended up with Rocky Lockridge in Windsor, losing his title and never fighting again.
I'd forgotten they fought
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Pernell Whitaker v Oscar De La Hoya (WBC Welterweight title)

De La Hoya stepped up in weight class from 140 to take on 33 year-old Sweet Pea, a high calibre chess match between 2 top quality operators. Really close fight to score I thought, some very tight rounds with neither man easy to find so not much in terms of clean shots landed - I had it 114-113 for DLH with the point deduction from Whitaker in the 3rd due to the stupid head clash ruling at the time.

Oscar seemed to get credit for some of his work that was blocked/evaded effectively by Whitaker but by the same token the champion didn't land as many truly clean power shots as he would have liked either, without the head clash craic I'd have it even basically. Two great fighters.
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Lou Savarese vs James Buster Douglas



Savarese blows away a shot to sh1t Douglas away in a round of a non title Heavyweight fight, Douglas down 3 times, first knockdown Savarese set it up with a jab before coming over with a textbook right hand, another overhand right had Douglas down again and this time he was on shaky legs, Savarese landed a burst of punches as Douglas fell to the canvas for a third and final time
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