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The most Intimidating heavyweight right now. Have you heard what he comes out to - he's even chose ringwalk music to add to the intimidation.
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Steel City wrote: 03 Apr 2020, 14:00 The most Intimidating heavyweight right now. Have you heard what he comes out to - he's even chose ringwalk music to add to the intimidation.
That head tick adds to his fearsome appearaance.
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punchoutsb wrote: 02 Apr 2020, 11:12 He actually reminds me a lot of early 2000's Ukrainian HW Volodymyr Virchis.

Both big, strong, and heavy handed but with slow feet and hands.

Virchis had a good run, but being wasted while he fought a slick boxer in Gomez wasn't the best idea. If Makhmudov takes boxing seriously he can be a contender in this pishpoor era.

If his power carries to the next echelon and his chin doesn't suck he should be able to win most firefights against the garbage contenders around today. There aren't many slick boxers like Gomez around so being slower might not be as big of a detriment as it would have been a few years ago.

That's to harsh. Virchs was a slug and didn't have Makhmudov's skills or power. I do agree with you, the top ten today has very few slick or defensive boxers. Fury is the only one. I still think Makhmudov has sledgehammers for fists, and few if any heavyweights now or then had the chin or body to deal with it. With Makhmudov, his accuracy is very good. He seldom misses, and when you not fasted, handed accuracy and timing mean a lot.

The best three heavwyeights, at least for now are Joshua, Fury, and let's be nice and say Wilder is 3rd.

Makhmudov hits hard enough to take all three out, with one good punch spelling the beginning of the end each of them.
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pound per pound wrote: 05 Apr 2020, 09:50
punchoutsb wrote: 02 Apr 2020, 11:12 He actually reminds me a lot of early 2000's Ukrainian HW Volodymyr Virchis.

Both big, strong, and heavy handed but with slow feet and hands.

Virchis had a good run, but being wasted while he fought a slick boxer in Gomez wasn't the best idea. If Makhmudov takes boxing seriously he can be a contender in this pishpoor era.

If his power carries to the next echelon and his chin doesn't suck he should be able to win most firefights against the garbage contenders around today. There aren't many slick boxers like Gomez around so being slower might not be as big of a detriment as it would have been a few years ago.

That's to harsh. Virchs was a slug and didn't have Makhmudov's skills or power. I do agree with you, the top ten today has very few slick or defensive boxers. Fury is the only one. I still think Makhmudov has sledgehammers for fists, and few if any heavyweights now or then had the chin or body to deal with it. With Makhmudov, his accuracy is very good. He seldom misses, and when you not fasted, handed accuracy and timing mean a lot.

The best three heavwyeights, at least for now are Joshua, Fury, and let's be nice and say Wilder is 3rd.

Makhmudov hits hard enough to take all three out, with one good punch spelling the beginning of the end each of them.
I don't think it's harsh at all. Virchis was hardly a slug. He was incredibly powerful and had sneaky skills. He was right there to have got the win over Chagaev, who was a constant top ten in a much better division than today. Drunk off his nut he still managed to take a few round against Gomez. Virchis would be a titlist today.

Makhmudov may prove to be more skillful and powerful, but he'll need to prove that in the ring first. Virchis is a much more realistic comparison at this point than George Foreman.
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oogiebe wrote: 03 Apr 2020, 14:01
Steel City wrote: 03 Apr 2020, 14:00 The most Intimidating heavyweight right now. Have you heard what he comes out to - he's even chose ringwalk music to add to the intimidation.
That head tick adds to his fearsome appearaance.
True haha he does it really regularly.
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Nobody needs to worry about this guy, with neurological problems like that retirement isnt far away or a revoked license. Then we can ask how good was he really, the neurological problem is part of him so he is only as good as it is. Without that problem perhaps he could have had a decent career. We'll never know.
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punchoutsb wrote: 05 Apr 2020, 15:27
pound per pound wrote: 05 Apr 2020, 09:50


That's to harsh. Virchs was a slug and didn't have Makhmudov's skills or power. I do agree with you, the top ten today has very few slick or defensive boxers. Fury is the only one. I still think Makhmudov has sledgehammers for fists, and few if any heavyweights now or then had the chin or body to deal with it. With Makhmudov, his accuracy is very good. He seldom misses, and when you not fasted, handed accuracy and timing mean a lot.

The best three heavwyeights, at least for now are Joshua, Fury, and let's be nice and say Wilder is 3rd.

Makhmudov hits hard enough to take all three out, with one good punch spelling the beginning of the end each of them.
I don't think it's harsh at all. Virchis was hardly a slug. He was incredibly powerful and had sneaky skills. He was right there to have got the win over Chagaev, who was a constant top ten in a much better division than today. Drunk off his nut he still managed to take a few round against Gomez. Virchis would be a titlist today.

Makhmudov may prove to be more skillful and powerful, but he'll need to prove that in the ring first. Virchis is a much more realistic comparison at this point than George Foreman.
I don't disagree that Virchis could punch. From what I've seen Makmudov's has faster hands and better power.

No one remembers Virchis today. He might be top ten, due to the lack of talent in the division in 2020, but no more. I think Foreman is a better comparison for Makhmudov both in hitting power and intimidation.
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Someone said he has slow hands but I think his hands are no worse than average speed. It's more like he's a wild clubber with his technique and can telegraph by winding up, though I do at least like that he can put combos togeether and there has been some timing there as well with his clubs at this level so far. Will need not stick that chin so high though

Seems a pretty open book stylistically at least, big , strong, aggressive crude guy. Fun to watch and with a bit of chin and grit should do fine, but imo looks too limited for the top tier or two
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pound per pound wrote: 06 Apr 2020, 10:53
punchoutsb wrote: 05 Apr 2020, 15:27

I don't think it's harsh at all. Virchis was hardly a slug. He was incredibly powerful and had sneaky skills. He was right there to have got the win over Chagaev, who was a constant top ten in a much better division than today. Drunk off his nut he still managed to take a few round against Gomez. Virchis would be a titlist today.

Makhmudov may prove to be more skillful and powerful, but he'll need to prove that in the ring first. Virchis is a much more realistic comparison at this point than George Foreman.
I don't disagree that Virchis could punch. From what I've seen Makmudov's has faster hands and better power.

No one remembers Virchis today. He might be top ten, due to the lack of talent in the division in 2020, but no more. I think Foreman is a better comparison for Makhmudov both in hitting power and intimidation.
His hands are faster, hard to judge power since he's never fought anyone. Virchis was a top ten guy in a much better era, he'd be a lock for top ten today.

I remember Virchis today; it a more plausible comparison for a 10 fight novice then George freaking Foreman at this point.
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Do watch Makhmudov's fight vs Mihai Nistor. Hedid eventually win by KO but there was one point where his legs went all wobbly and Nistor really hurt him. Big scary fella no doubting that. Do you know what causes that head twitch?
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Ya, saw that one. He got rocked early and had a spectacular come back KO. He also got KO'd by Magomed Omarov back in 2012, then a week later he won a WSB fight by stoppage and won his next 10 wsb fights. Funny enough his form seems to have improved after getting KO'd. He won a tournament with top Russian amateurs shortly after too.

Nistor beat AJ (stoppage), Wallin (stoppage), Hrgovic, and Vianello in the ams/wsb....though looked pretty dumpy in the 2 pro fights I saw him. You'd never guess watching those fights that he did so much in the ams/wsb
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Wow thanks for letting me know, I never knew Omarov existed. Just took a look at his record and man he's defeated some big names - Yoka, Sergey Kuzmin, Makhmudov of course, Hrgovic, Joyce, Vianello etc. It's a pity talents like these never break through and make good careers out of the sport.
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Ya, he beat Dom Breazeale easily too and Maidjov

Although there have been more ams from the former soviet countries turning pro in recent years there are still a lot of guys from there like that who never do, lots and lots of impressive talent that we'll only ever get to see in the ams and wsb when it was around. Cuba too has lots.

It's funny, the Americans blame stuff like basketball when they have shortages of hw pro talent , while these other countries have these type of dudes actually boxing but are losing lots of it to the ams still
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margaret thatcher wrote: 01 Jul 2020, 02:22 Ya, saw that one. He got rocked early and had a spectacular come back KO. He also got KO'd by Magomed Omarov back in 2012, then a week later he won a WSB fight by stoppage and won his next 10 wsb fights. Funny enough his form seems to have improved after getting KO'd. He won a tournament with top Russian amateurs shortly after too.

Nistor beat AJ (stoppage), Wallin (stoppage), Hrgovic, and Vianello in the ams/wsb....though looked pretty dumpy in the 2 pro fights I saw him. You'd never guess watching those fights that he did so much in the ams/wsb
I’ve not seen the Omarov KO. Any videos? Was he laid out flat? His chin certainly has improved seen then, as he’s taken some big shots and not blinked. He was rocked by Nistor but came back brilliantly to KO him.
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Ya, he got starched, lots of good fighters get stopped as ams, AJ, Wilder, Ortiz, Lewis, Joyce, ...Tua got brutally KTFO but then was iron chinned as a pro...but his legs are totally gone for a few seconds here. Kinda the same thing he had a bit vs Nistor, head seems there but legs jelly. He protested but you can see him stagger some even after the stoppage, in the ams a ref is sure to a stop a fight like this, though perhaps he does have really good recovery and coulda made it back. With his defense we should get to see him hurt as a pro too eventually and then how he responds...

tbf he did go on his best run after losing this one

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margaret thatcher wrote: 04 Jul 2020, 10:22 Ya, he got starched, lots of good fighters get stopped as ams, AJ, Wilder, Ortiz, Lewis, Joyce, ...Tua got brutally KTFO but then was iron chinned as a pro...but his legs are totally gone for a few seconds here. Kinda the same thing he had a bit vs Nistor, head seems there but legs jelly. He protested but you can see him stagger some even after the stoppage, in the ams a ref is sure to a stop a fight like this, though perhaps he does have really good recovery and coulda made it back. With his defense we should get to see him hurt as a pro too eventually and then how he responds...

tbf he did go on his best run after losing this one

Thanks.
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margaret thatcher wrote: 29 Mar 2020, 21:10 Ya a guy like Pulev is old and stale now, but he had a very ambitious early career. They fought themselves up to contender status.
Pulev is old ?!! can you leave your wife to pulev ?
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She tried to get some with Kuby, but he told her he already had you s@cking his cock and giving him deep french kisses , at least when you weren't tied up with Efe :yay:
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big mak on the schedule for september, still tba opponent
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About time. He should fight at the very least 3 times per year
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The honorable sport of boxing where exciting prospects don't get any real fights.
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Any news about this? I wonder if he'll keep fighting nobodies or ex-boxers...
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I don't know who will be Makhmudov's September opponent, but it would be nice to see him in with a contender.

Probably won't happen. But if his promoter isn't too cheap, they should be able to find someone decent like Agit Kabayel, Mike Balogun, Sergey Kuzmin, or Simon Kean.
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