What is your p4p top 20 ever in order, take time

[RonnyJ]

I do think that the new p4p from boxrec has changed things.

Pretty cool that Ezzard Charles is the nr.1 of alltime based on records or something. Don't know how. Just find it funny and awesome for Charles.

i dont understand the rating system of them. if it is amunt of fights and wins over champions, than it obviously should be robinson. boxrec had mayweather as the best ever, no charles. all of the sudden mayweather is a 1.000 points away. they changing how say want, without making sense.

[Enlightened-One]

I do think that the new p4p from boxrec has changed things.

Pretty cool that Ezzard Charles is the nr.1 of alltime based on records or something. Don't know how. Just find it funny and awesome for Charles.

i dont understand the rating system of them. if it is amunt of fights and wins over champions, than it obviously should be robinson. boxrec had mayweather as the best ever, no charles. all of the sudden mayweather is a 1.000 points away. they changing how say want, without making sense.

According to the new ratings:

• Joe Calzaghe > Muhammad Ali
• Ricky Hatton > Roberto Duran
• Mike Tyson > Evander Holyfield
• Miguel Cotto > Tommy Hearns
• Vitali Klitschko > George Foreman, Joe Frazier & Larry Holmes
• Joe Frazier > George Foreman
• Jermain Taylor > Kelly Pavlik
• Nikolay Valuev > Tyson Fury, Michael Moorer, Ken Norton & David Haye

[Paci]

I do think that the new p4p from boxrec has changed things.

Pretty cool that Ezzard Charles is the nr.1 of alltime based on records or something. Don't know how. Just find it funny and awesome for Charles.

i dont understand the rating system of them. if it is amunt of fights and wins over champions, than it obviously should be robinson. boxrec had mayweather as the best ever, no charles. all of the sudden mayweather is a 1.000 points away. they changing how say want, without making sense.

I know! Makes no sense at all!
But Charles can on the other hand claim 3 wins over the nr.2 guy, Archie Moore so... yeah... can't my head around why they did this change with it.

But, the changes put at the top 3 heavyweights in the p4p-mix.

[Paci]

i dont understand the rating system of them. if it is amunt of fights and wins over champions, than it obviously should be robinson. boxrec had mayweather as the best ever, no charles. all of the sudden mayweather is a 1.000 points away. they changing how say want, without making sense.

According to the new ratings:

• Joe Calzaghe > Muhammad Ali
• Ricky Hatton > Roberto Duran
• Mike Tyson > Evander Holyfield
• Miguel Cotto > Tommy Hearns
• Vitali Klitschko > George Foreman, Joe Frazier & Larry Holmes
• Joe Frazier > George Foreman
• Jermain Taylor > Kelly Pavlik
• Nikolay Valuev > Tyson Fury, Michael Moorer, Ken Norton & David Haye

One thing is true neither of you or the ratings makes any sense. Neither do I from time to time.

But, I counted that 7 of the top 25 where not from the states. Top 10 is all US. First one up is Pacquaio at 11 who isn't an american.

[RonnyJ]

According to the new ratings:

• Joe Calzaghe > Muhammad Ali
• Ricky Hatton > Roberto Duran
• Mike Tyson > Evander Holyfield
• Miguel Cotto > Tommy Hearns
• Vitali Klitschko > George Foreman, Joe Frazier & Larry Holmes
• Joe Frazier > George Foreman
• Jermain Taylor > Kelly Pavlik
• Nikolay Valuev > Tyson Fury, Michael Moorer, Ken Norton & David Haye

One thing is true neither of you or the ratings makes any sense. Neither do I from time to time.

But, I counted that 7 of the top 25 where not from the states. Top 10 is all US. First one up is Pacquaio at 11 who isn't an american.

I make sense

[Paci]

One thing is true neither of you or the ratings makes any sense. Neither do I from time to time.

But, I counted that 7 of the top 25 where not from the states. Top 10 is all US. First one up is Pacquaio at 11 who isn't an american.

I make sense

What? You insecure bastard! Yeah! In your own way.

Mostly waiting on EO's ranking. That have too be top notch or something. Or else he wouldn't put so much effort in whinning about other people putting old timers on theirs.

Could make one alltime based on respecteable wins, then I would go crazy.

[Onetimeonly]

One thing is true neither of you or the ratings makes any sense. Neither do I from time to time.

But, I counted that 7 of the top 25 where not from the states. Top 10 is all US. First one up is Pacquaio at 11 who isn't an american.

I make sense

Not with boxing, you're the worst.

[RonnyJ]

I make sense

What? You insecure bastard! Yeah! In your own way.

Mostly waiting on EO's ranking. That have too be top notch or something. Or else he wouldn't put so much effort in whinning about other people putting old timers on theirs.

Could make one alltime based on respecteable wins, then I would go crazy.

there arent better boxer than those i mention, that makes sense on a best boxers list


all the people includ you that all say that i dont make sense rarly never tell me where i dont make sense.


aint robinson or pac have the best records, won against the most top level oppnents?
aint jones in the 90s the best boxer ever?

[Paci]

What? You insecure bastard! Yeah! In your own way.

Mostly waiting on EO's ranking. That have too be top notch or something. Or else he wouldn't put so much effort in whinning about other people putting old timers on theirs.

Could make one alltime based on respecteable wins, then I would go crazy.

there arent better boxer than those i mention, that makes sense on a best boxers list

[RonnyJ]

[Paci]

Only list I wanna see now is EO's.

[RonnyJ]

Only list I wanna see now is EO's.

I am curious too

He is a perfectionist. It would take him 10 years to make a top 5 and a lifetime for top 20.

I mean it very easy to make a short list.
If u mostly focus on record and quality of opposition than robinson, pac, ali, leonard are your guys. If you focus on ability than jones, lomachenko, leonard etc..

[Paci]

Only list I wanna see now is EO's.

I am curious too

He is a perfectionist. It would take him 10 years to make a top 5 and a lifetime for top 20.

I mean it very easy to make a short list.
If u mostly focus on record and quality of opposition than robinson, pac, ali, leonard are your guys. If you focus on ability than jones, lomachenko, leonard etc..

The hype is on!

[oogiebe]

Only list I wanna see now is EO's.

It'll never happen. Any schmo who just posts criticisms and is as sensitive as he is won't put himself out there. Never, no way.

[margaret thatcher]

See, if I'm EO, I swoop in now with a list, because I then can quote you and prove you wrong about that! And you know how our boi loves that

[oogiebe]

See, if I'm EO, I swoop in now with a list, because I then can quote you and prove you wrong about that! And you know how our boi loves that

And he won't have to 'dare' anyone to" refute" his claims. He's so predictable. Poor boy.

[Paci]

Only list I wanna see now is EO's.

It'll never happen. Any schmo who just posts criticisms and is as sensitive as he is won't put himself out there. Never, no way.

Pretty boring in the long run with all his whinning about alltimers. Many strange rumors and BS around them for sure, but still their records stick out. Well, I didn't either since I sort of splitt it in half. And cheated more or less. Not making my own stupid list.

Many ATGs to pick from since the start of the gloved era. So no problems really, just he would never put his chin out since he would be so trashed. No problem with Sugar Ray begin the top guy for most people. Or really make an argument.

Like how some greats can adopt when their speed ain't the same or they won't get mileage for a fanfriendly slugfest and goes the route of outboxing and just pissing everyone off when it come to the blood and guts of it.
Not saying that their comes along real animals like LaMotta, McCall and Chavez who ain't normal.
Roy Jones is a prime exemple of somebody who was the greatest in his prime and begin of his decline showed when he started losing his speed and couldn't fight the same way anymore. He just counterpunched even more and couldn't set his traps or get away with making mistakes anymore. Tarver might have knock'd out Jones, but Johnson just beat him silly and walking him down allnight long. Watch that fight once.

[oogiebe]

It'll never happen. Any schmo who just posts criticisms and is as sensitive as he is won't put himself out there. Never, no way.

Pretty boring in the long run with all his whinning about alltimers. Many strange rumors and BS around them for sure, but still their records stick out. Well, I didn't either since I sort of splitt it in half. And cheated more or less. Not making my own stupid list.

Many ATGs to pick from since the start of the gloved era. So no problems really, just he would never put his chin out since he would be so trashed. No problem with Sugar Ray begin the top guy for most people. Or really make an argument.

Like how some greats can adopt when their speed ain't the same or they won't get mileage for a fanfriendly slugfest and goes the route of outboxing and just pissing everyone off when it come to the blood and guts of it.
Not saying that their comes along real animals like LaMotta, McCall and Chavez who ain't normal.
Roy Jones is a prime exemple of somebody who was the greatest in his prime and begin of his decline showed when he started losing his speed and couldn't fight the same way anymore. He just counterpunched even more and couldn't set his traps or get away with making mistakes anymore. Tarver might have knock'd out Jones, but Johnson just beat him silly and walking him down allnight long. Watch that fight once.

EO is a spoiled, whiney pisspot. Arrogant and sensitive at the same time. Probably a social pariah.

[RonnyJ]

Pretty boring in the long run with all his whinning about alltimers. Many strange rumors and BS around them for sure, but still their records stick out. Well, I didn't either since I sort of splitt it in half. And cheated more or less. Not making my own stupid list.

Many ATGs to pick from since the start of the gloved era. So no problems really, just he would never put his chin out since he would be so trashed. No problem with Sugar Ray begin the top guy for most people. Or really make an argument.

Like how some greats can adopt when their speed ain't the same or they won't get mileage for a fanfriendly slugfest and goes the route of outboxing and just pissing everyone off when it come to the blood and guts of it.
Not saying that their comes along real animals like LaMotta, McCall and Chavez who ain't normal.
Roy Jones is a prime exemple of somebody who was the greatest in his prime and begin of his decline showed when he started losing his speed and couldn't fight the same way anymore. He just counterpunched even more and couldn't set his traps or get away with making mistakes anymore. Tarver might have knock'd out Jones, but Johnson just beat him silly and walking him down allnight long. Watch that fight once.

EO is a spoiled, whiney pisspot. Arrogant and sensitive at the same time. Probably a social pariah.

Why spoiled?

[RonnyJ]

I make sense

Not with boxing, you're the worst.

That is clear that u go after me every possible time. U should be ashamed for your behaviour.

How is the weather in dallas right now?

[Paci]

EO is a spoiled, whiney pisspot. Arrogant and sensitive at the same time. Probably a social pariah.

He does make some good wordsallads however.

[oogiebe]

EO is a spoiled, whiney pisspot. Arrogant and sensitive at the same time. Probably a social pariah.

He does make some good wordsallads however.

LOL! Top Notch. I pass through the paragraphs though. I haven't the time for it.

[Onetimeonly]

Not with boxing, you're the worst.

That is clear that u go after me every possible time. U should be ashamed for your behaviour.

How is the weather in dallas right now?

That isn't close to being true. I ignore far more of your terrible posts than I respond too. I promise you, if you're ever right I'll give you a thumbs up.

[boxing_rocks]

EO is a spoiled, whiney pisspot. Arrogant and sensitive at the same time. Probably a social pariah.

He does make some good wordsallads however.

I wouldn't call them salads. More like junk yards.

[oogiebe]

He does make some good wordsallads however.

I wouldn't call them salads. More like junk yards.

How about 'debris fields.'