Likelihood of Calzaghe-Winky now?

Autobarn · Post by **Autobarn** » 18 Jun 2006, 12:09

as WW has no belts, no big scalp (from the Taylor fight), & probably isn't rated p4p #1 anymore, will a Calzaghe fight be more likely?

I mean, the draw doesn't hurt his standing, but as he lacks the win, he's less likely to be able to call the shots. Will he be easier to deal with? Warren talks of Calzaghe in a masive fight next. WW is known over here for his trio of WBO defenses. There's a nice backstory, with WW wanting revenge for Lacy , etc...

E · Post by E » 18 Jun 2006, 12:45

Wright is the most boring fighter in the world...especially the way he holds his huge gloves on the side of his head and just waits for the other guy to make a move.

I won't miss him.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 18 Jun 2006, 13:07

Joe will beat on him!

Bard of Boxrec · Post by **Bard of Boxrec** » 18 Jun 2006, 13:41

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hitman_hatton1 · Post by **hitman_hatton1** » 18 Jun 2006, 15:03

i had winky winning last night.

wright would certainly be super fight material for calzaghe.

he was a big light middle and looked fine at middleweight.

bring it on.

mattyp151 · Post by **mattyp151** » 18 Jun 2006, 15:05

Winky won't take on anyone anymore that he doesn't get the lion's share for fighting. He bitched about this fight not being 50/50 eventhough Jermain had more to lose, because he was the champ. He just needs to go away.

lvlarc · Post by **lvlarc** » 18 Jun 2006, 15:43

Agreed, he's too obsessed with money....not that that's a bad thing, but ffs he was even wearing a suit for his ringwalk last night, refused to pay sanctioning fees, he's all about business. He wouldn't stand a chance against Joe anyhow.

stujones · Post by **stujones** » 18 Jun 2006, 19:02

I cannot see Winky going up to Super Middle after last night.... I thought he won, but Taylor was definately the stronger man when he chose to fight.

I think Winky might have said no to a rematch cause he is thinking that DLH is looking for an opponent.

fried bread · Post by **fried bread** » 19 Jun 2006, 04:07

Winky's fought over here before. But seems to be a big head now, who has to have his own way

KO Artist · Post by **KO Artist** » 19 Jun 2006, 04:50

E wrote:Wright is the most boring fighter in the world...especially the way he holds his huge gloves on the side of his head and just waits for the other guy to make a move.

I won't miss him.

Wright is so bad for the sport.

How anyone could have him no1 p4p is beyond me.

People jump on the bandwagon.

Make your own minds up for christ sake

E · Post by E » 19 Jun 2006, 06:21

KO Artist wrote:
E wrote:Wright is the most boring fighter in the world...especially the way he holds his huge gloves on the side of his head and just waits for the other guy to make a move.

I won't miss him.
Wright is so bad for the sport.

How anyone could have him no1 p4p is beyond me.

People jump on the bandwagon.

Make your own minds up for christ sake

Right - if everyone boxed like him, no one would watch boxing. And to be clear his only two notable victories are over a comebacking Trinidad (styles here) and Mosley (former lightweight who had only won one of his last 4).

He also got put on the canvas 5 times by Vasquez.

He is a good but notgreat fighter.

fried bread · Post by **fried bread** » 19 Jun 2006, 06:31

Winky's not in a position to dictate terms. Calzaghe would be a strong possibility, I believe. Easier to get an opponent after he's failed to win his last big one; that's how Calzaghe v Brewer, Mitchell were made.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 19 Jun 2006, 06:46

I'm a fan of Winky's, would definatly have him in the top 10 boxers of today, not No.1 though.

Personally I wouldn't want to see Joe v Winky as i don't think their styles would mix well, both being southpaws and like to counterpunch.
Wright is best when he has a come foward boxer in front of him, shows his best form then, although he did throw the fight away against Taylor on Saturday by not doing enough in the last round.

El Raincoat · Post by **El Raincoat** » 19 Jun 2006, 09:18

I'd love this fight to happen he's a big name and if he came after Joe all of Calzaghe's birthdays would come at once. I know he takes alot on the gloves but Calzaghe is a step up again from Taylor both in size and quality.

punchers chance · Post by **punchers chance** » 20 Jun 2006, 09:24

I can see why SN would be keen on this match. Calzaghe would be far too strong for WW.

Wright knows a lot more than Lacy but the only thing he’ll be able to do in there is try and survive.

Sweet P · Post by **Sweet P** » 20 Jun 2006, 09:44

El Raincoat wrote:I'd love this fight to happen he's a big name and if he came after Joe all of Calzaghe's birthdays would come at once. I know he takes alot on the gloves but Calzaghe is a step up again from Taylor both in size and quality.

Calzaghe isn't better than Taylor that is a biased statment, Taylor has beaten and drew with 2 top P4P fighters in his last 3 fights who has Calzaghe beat.

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 20 Jun 2006, 11:41

Ben Taylor struggled with both of them and Calzaghe is far more experianced than Taylor.

Who did FLoyd beat to be p4p no 1?

Axe · Post by **Axe** » 20 Jun 2006, 17:14

Id like to see Joe beat Winky's ass.

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 20 Jun 2006, 18:50

viciousmaussa wrote:as WW has no belts, no big scalp (from the Taylor fight), & probably isn't rated p4p #1 anymore, will a Calzaghe fight be more likely?

I mean, the draw doesn't hurt his standing, but as he lacks the win, he's less likely to be able to call the shots. Will he be easier to deal with? Warren talks of Calzaghe in a masive fight next. WW is known over here for his trio of WBO defenses. There's a nice backstory, with WW wanting revenge for Lacy , etc...

wright is STILL probably the best single fight for calzaghe right now...at least in terms of enhancing his legacy & assuring him a spot in international HOF!!

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 20 Jun 2006, 18:54

Ben Keilty wrote:
El Raincoat wrote:I'd love this fight to happen he's a big name and if he came after Joe all of Calzaghe's birthdays would come at once. I know he takes alot on the gloves but Calzaghe is a step up again from Taylor both in size and quality.
Calzaghe isn't better than Taylor that is a biased statment, Taylor has beaten and drew with 2 top P4P fighters in his last 3 fights who has Calzaghe beat.

always nice to catch some non-british sentiment on the brit forum & i would have to agree with that particular take!!

calzaghe MAY be better than taylor or wright but we cannot REALLY KNOW until he's faced either of them, or someone on their level (and b-hop is retired!!)...

shoutout · Post by **shoutout** » 20 Jun 2006, 18:59

E wrote:
KO Artist wrote:
E wrote:Wright is the most boring fighter in the world...especially the way he holds his huge gloves on the side of his head and just waits for the other guy to make a move.

I won't miss him.
Wright is so bad for the sport.

How anyone could have him no1 p4p is beyond me.

People jump on the bandwagon.

Make your own minds up for christ sake
Right - if everyone boxed like him, no one would watch boxing. And to be clear his only two notable victories are over a comebacking Trinidad (styles here) and Mosley (former lightweight who had only won one of his last 4).

He also got put on the canvas 5 times by Vasquez.

He is a good but notgreat fighter.

sure winky is boring...but the vasquez loss was 12 years ago!! winky is a TOTALLY different fighter than he was then...much better!!

i guarantee if calzaghe beat him NOW as clearly as vasquez did BACK THEN, that win WOULD MAKE HIM A LOCK FOR THE HOF!!!

Max Molyneux · Post by **Max Molyneux** » 21 Jun 2006, 04:22

shoutout2u wrote:
Ben Keilty wrote:
El Raincoat wrote:I'd love this fight to happen he's a big name and if he came after Joe all of Calzaghe's birthdays would come at once. I know he takes alot on the gloves but Calzaghe is a step up again from Taylor both in size and quality.
Calzaghe isn't better than Taylor that is a biased statment, Taylor has beaten and drew with 2 top P4P fighters in his last 3 fights who has Calzaghe beat.
always nice to catch some non-british sentiment on the brit forum & i would have to agree with that particular take!! calzaghe MAY be better than taylor or wright but we cannot REALLY KNOW until he's faced either of them, or someone on their level (and b-hop is retired!!)...

I think he would beat Taylor pretty clearly.

He took advantage of Hopkins non workrate in the early rounds to win and in the later rounds Hop showed he was better skillwise.

jamesmcdonnell · Post by **jamesmcdonnell** » 21 Jun 2006, 06:26

I'd like to see Calzaghe fight Taylor, think it would be a good fight. Despite being a middleweight, at SM, i think Taylor might pose some interesting physical challenges. He certainly packs a whack, and he is quick too. I think Taylor's time at MW is limited, he's a very big unit and going to fill out even more in the next two years.

I reckon this would be a fantastic fight for TV too, and the networks would surely be interested, it's the fight I'd most like to see right now.

dookus · Post by **dookus** » 21 Jun 2006, 06:40

I seem to remember most of Winky's knockdowns against Vasquez (all but the last one) were in fact slips counted as knockdowns by a biased French referee on a slippery canvas.

Old bones Ian · Post by **Old bones Ian** » 21 Jun 2006, 06:52

jamesmcdonnell wrote:I'd like to see Calzaghe fight Taylor, think it would be a good fight. Despite being a middleweight, at SM, i think Taylor might pose some interesting physical challenges. He certainly packs a whack, and he is quick too. I think Taylor's time at MW is limited, he's a very big unit and going to fill out even more in the next two years.

I reckon this would be a fantastic fight for TV too, and the networks would surely be interested, it's the fight I'd most like to see right now.

Taylor would certainly be a differcult fight for Joe, if this fight went ahead i could see Taylor's managment trying for a catchweight fight , round the 165lb limit, trying to weaken Joe a bit in making that.

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