Wilder - was he the last Great Black Hope?

[Tony1244]

You say I conduct myself in an ethical manner. You do not.

Find where I have renounced my whiteness. Besides being tied with the most moronic thing I've ever read, show me where I did that. And let me save you some time by telling you ...You shouldn't bother rummaging through old conversations to find out where you think I said it........ IT NEVER HAPPENED. Though I suspect you know this.

> What kind of craven whataboutism is that Tony? Man up & address the situation at hand. Don't dodge by pivoting to an entirely unrelated issue. That is what can be expected of women, children & sub 85 IQ dingbats, of which you are none. You have accused me of a specific action: you have attributed a comment to me that is not only untrue but anathema to my Christian upbringing.
> I will address the accusations of your racial recreance after you retract this slander. I tell you so in good faith, you have my word on this.

P.S. After I address your grievance, I would like to address this imputation that I conduct myself in an unethical manner. I believe this is an unfair charge & that you say this simply because we hold disparate views on core values. I recognize that this is your opinion & you have every right to express it but I would like the opportunity to defend my reputation.

Tom, it's all very simple; Margaret Thatcher said you were the one that said it, and MT is beyond reproach.

[thomasjkelley]

Tell me about it. I don't even own a James Brown album.

LOL!!! Another EO pseudonym?

Pardon me, sir? Sorry to bother. I am curious if you are speculating I may be an individual known by the moniker "EO"? Yes? If not, please ignore the following.... If yes, let me assure you, I am not. I am myself, I have a decades long track record on this site & although I am sure this EO fella is a brilliant commentator, he is not me. Though if I'm going to be honest, my curiosity has been piqued. After all, if you have mistaken me for him, there is sure to be a smorgasbord of hot takes in his past. Please provide me his full username? Much obliged.

[oogiebe]

LOL!!! Another EO pseudonym?

Pardon me, sir? Sorry to bother. I am curious if you are speculating I may be an individual known by the moniker "EO"? Yes? If not, please ignore the following.... If yes, let me assure you, I am not. I am myself, I have a decades long track record on this site & although I am sure this EO fella is a brilliant commentator, he is not me. Though if I'm going to be honest, my curiosity has been piqued. After all, if you have mistaken me for him, there is sure to be a smorgasbord of hot takes in his past. Please provide me his full username? Much obliged.

I am 'likening' you to he. He is of the enlightenment.

[thomasjkelley]

> What kind of craven whataboutism is that Tony? Man up & address the situation at hand. Don't dodge by pivoting to an entirely unrelated issue. That is what can be expected of women, children & sub 85 IQ dingbats, of which you are none. You have accused me of a specific action: you have attributed a comment to me that is not only untrue but anathema to my Christian upbringing.
> I will address the accusations of your racial recreance after you retract this slander. I tell you so in good faith, you have my word on this.

P.S. After I address your grievance, I would like to address this imputation that I conduct myself in an unethical manner. I believe this is an unfair charge & that you say this simply because we hold disparate views on core values. I recognize that this is your opinion & you have every right to express it but I would like the opportunity to defend my reputation.

Why don't you take this private. You're clogging up the thread. Not that it's a good thread. It isn't. But this is getting rather annoying. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation on this matter.

Oh God no? This is you? Are you the guy that demands grown men end their conversations because you get uncomfortable hearing different opinions? It boggles my mind that a grown man is always up in everyone else's business like this, always telling others what to do & how to do it. Don't you know how unseemly that is? Why don't you become a police officer or jailer if you feel the need to control other men. This can't be satisfying to you.

[thomasjkelley]

Pardon me, sir? Sorry to bother. I am curious if you are speculating I may be an individual known by the moniker "EO"? Yes? If not, please ignore the following.... If yes, let me assure you, I am not. I am myself, I have a decades long track record on this site & although I am sure this EO fella is a brilliant commentator, he is not me. Though if I'm going to be honest, my curiosity has been piqued. After all, if you have mistaken me for him, there is sure to be a smorgasbord of hot takes in his past. Please provide me his full username? Much obliged.

I am 'likening' you to he. He is of the enlightenment.

Thank you very much. I'm surprised you gave it to me.I thought you would make me jump through hoops. Maybe I am wrong about you

[oogiebe]

Why don't you take this private. You're clogging up the thread. Not that it's a good thread. It isn't. But this is getting rather annoying. Thank you for your anticipated cooperation on this matter.

Oh God no? This is you? Are you the guy that demands grown men end their conversations because you get uncomfortable hearing different opinions? It boggles my mind that a grown man is always up in everyone else's business like this, always telling others what to do & how to do it. Don't you know how unseemly that is? Why don't you become a police officer or jailer if you feel the need to control other men. This can't be satisfying to you.

I'm just sick of your act. Talk boxing or stfu.

[Tony1244]

I am 'likening' you to he. He is of the enlightenment.

Thank you very much. I'm surprised you gave it to me.I thought you would make me jump through hoops. Maybe I am wrong about you

You probably are wrong about OO. You're wrong about most things. He may be annoyed by you. I find you perversely entertaining.

[thomasjkelley]

Thank you very much. I'm surprised you gave it to me.I thought you would make me jump through hoops. Maybe I am wrong about you

You probably are wrong about OO. You're wrong about most things. He may be annoyed by you. I find you perversely entertaining.

Bruv. I have a keen sense of self awareness, I too....find myself perversely entertaining. I read one of my own posts & think “What the fornicate is this spastic teenager banging on about? Ultimately, a startling revelation kicks in.. “Jesus Christ! That’s me.” Great genius comes at great cost. Thankfully, my humility keeps me grounded.

[thomasjkelley]

Oh God no? This is you? Are you the guy that demands grown men end their conversations because you get uncomfortable hearing different opinions? It boggles my mind that a grown man is always up in everyone else's business like this, always telling others what to do & how to do it. Don't you know how unseemly that is? Why don't you become a police officer or jailer if you feel the need to control other men. This can't be satisfying to you.

I'm just sick of your act. Talk boxing or stfu.

No I can’t do that. I am a reactionary. Nary do I broach a non boxing topic.. 3/4 of all comments in every thread are replies and reactions to comments, opinions, slights, etc. That is how normal conversation evolves & devolves. You don’t have the wisdom or requisite IQ to comprehend concepts this big brained nibba finds rudimentary. The extent of your vocabulary is “Lol; BTFO; STFU, etc”

I would not engage you if you didn’t poke.. No you haven’t addressed me directly but only because your passive aggressive nature leads you to prod from the peripheral. I understand you don’t enjoy the bantz, it’s not your thing. But why are you bent on ruining everyone else’s time? Well my time anyway. Why tell grown men where & when they can banter? And worse, that they need to stop altogether.

Look at your friend Tony. 9/10 times, I clobber the piss out of Tony, but every once in awhile he zings me & I have to regroup (this is extremely rare). He has never once thrown a hissy fit & taken his ball home. You haven’t either but you demand others pick up & go home.

Are you incapable of seeing humour in any of this. If you opened your eyes, you would see I am trying to help you, tryin’ to make you a better man, tryin’ to make you tough. I’m sorry I have to scold you so publicly. This hurts me more than it hurts you.

Tl;dr: >No!

[oogiebe]

I'm just sick of your act. Talk boxing or stfu.

No I can’t do that. I am a reactionary. Nary do I broach a non boxing topic.. 3/4 of all comments in every thread are replies and reactions to comments, opinions, slights, etc. That is how normal conversation evolves & devolves. You don’t have the wisdom or requisite IQ to comprehend concepts this big brained nibba finds rudimentary. The extent of your vocabulary is “Lol; BTFO; STFU, etc”

I would not engage you if you didn’t poke.. No you haven’t addressed me directly but only because your passive aggressive nature leads you to prod from the peripheral. I understand you don’t enjoy the bantz, it’s not your thing. But why are you bent on ruining everyone else’s time? Well my time anyway. Why tell grown men where & when they can banter? And worse, that they need to stop altogether.

Look at your friend Tony. 9/10 times, I clobber the piss out of Tony, but every once in awhile he zings me & I have to regroup (this is extremely rare). He has never once thrown a hissy fit & taken his ball home. You haven’t either but you demand others pick up & go home.

Are you incapable of seeing humour in any of this. If you opened your eyes, you would see I am trying to help you, tryin’ to make you a better man, tryin’ to make you tough. I’m sorry I have to scold you so publicly. This hurts me more than it hurts you.

Tl;dr: >No!

One day when you're all grown up...

[thomasjkelley]

> What kind of craven whataboutism is that Tony? Man up & address the situation at hand. Don't dodge by pivoting to an entirely unrelated issue. That is what can be expected of women, children & sub 85 IQ dingbats, of which you are none. You have accused me of a specific action: you have attributed a comment to me that is not only untrue but anathema to my Christian upbringing.
> I will address the accusations of your racial recreance after you retract this slander. I tell you so in good faith, you have my word on this.

P.S. After I address your grievance, I would like to address this imputation that I conduct myself in an unethical manner. I believe this is an unfair charge & that you say this simply because we hold disparate views on core values. I recognize that this is your opinion & you have every right to express it but I would like the opportunity to defend my reputation.

Tom, it's all very simple; Margaret Thatcher said you were the one that said it, and MT is beyond reproach.

I beg to differ, Tony. But now you have taken the wind out of my sails, bringing Maggie in. I’m not going to poke that bear just to get mauled for your entertainment. I’ma walk away now. Bloody but unbowed

[thomasjkelley]

No I can’t do that. I am a reactionary. Nary do I broach a non boxing topic.. 3/4 of all comments in every thread are replies and reactions to comments, opinions, slights, etc. That is how normal conversation evolves & devolves. You don’t have the wisdom or requisite IQ to comprehend concepts this big brained nibba finds rudimentary. The extent of your vocabulary is “Lol; BTFO; STFU, etc”

I would not engage you if you didn’t poke.. No you haven’t addressed me directly but only because your passive aggressive nature leads you to prod from the peripheral. I understand you don’t enjoy the bantz, it’s not your thing. But why are you bent on ruining everyone else’s time? Well my time anyway. Why tell grown men where & when they can banter? And worse, that they need to stop altogether.

Look at your friend Tony. 9/10 times, I clobber the piss out of Tony, but every once in awhile he zings me & I have to regroup (this is extremely rare). He has never once thrown a hissy fit & taken his ball home. You haven’t either but you demand others pick up & go home.

Are you incapable of seeing humour in any of this. If you opened your eyes, you would see I am trying to help you, tryin’ to make you a better man, tryin’ to make you tough. I’m sorry I have to scold you so publicly. This hurts me more than it hurts you.

Tl;dr: >No!

One day when you're all grown up...

Ouch! That hurt mate.

[candyslim]

I'm just wondering how the hell you can be visiting this forum for nearly a decade and not know who EO is.

[Tony1244]

One day when you're all grown up...

Ouch! That hurt mate.

The cosmopolitan quip was a huge "clobber." One that I shall never recover from.

Regarding when I "renounced my whitenesss," you must be referring to the 1993 race change operation I had with Michael Jackson. I was going through a tough time.

[candyslim]

[Tony1244]

It was painful. I still can't dance though.

[candyslim]

Sadly neither can Michael, not now.

[oogiebe]

Sadly neither can Michael, not now.

OUCH

[margaret thatcher]

Sadly neither can Michael, not now.

I am shocked, and appalled

[Tony1244]

He's doing the moonwalk somewhere.

[candyslim]

Sadly neither can Michael, not now.

I am shocked, and appalled

You mean you hadn't heard?

[Steel City]

He's doing the moonwalk somewhere.

I thought you was black tbh. You sounded like a Dontae subscriber

[Tony1244]

He's doing the moonwalk somewhere.

I thought you was black tbh. You sounded like a Dontae subscriber

Never heard of Dontae.

[Steel City]

I bet Devin Haney hates Larry Merchant

[Fray Bentos]

I don't usually venture onto the CS because it is a fornicating zoo of gormless opinions but I am shocked to the core that there hasn't been a mention of Cuba on this thread - because once they are open for business, their fighters from their sporting system will be turning pro and there will be loads of them and loads of them will definitely be black.

Cuban boxing post-Castro will completely change the pro game (like the fall of Eastern Europe did...) when hundreds or even thousands turn pro.

Anyway, that's my thoughts on it - see you again in five years from now...