Great fighters without a single Great Win

[margaret thatcher]

The question is, did Sonny get a great win? Is Patty a great win?

[Ambling Alp II]

Yes.

[Onamastus]

Vitali by my reckoning beat at least 6 guys who were top 10 at the time

That's a pathetic number by the standards of top welterweights, middleweights, etc but at heavyweight there are plenty of guys with pretty thin resumes.

Sonny Liston for example beat no more top 10 heavyweights than Vitali did.

Vitali must have beaten more than 6 top 10 fighters. He probably beat lots of them. The problem is, none of them were any good. Chisora as a career best win is shocking. Chisora isn't even David Haye's best win.

[Ambling Alp II]

Sometimes the heavyweight division is stronger than at other times. Vitali's victim list is a joke compared to Liston's. He is 0-2 against fighter's worth mentioning. Liston beat better competition and usually won easily.
OK, Margie looks like the thread has killed... go for it.

[margaret thatcher]

Go for what homeslice

[Counter-puncher]

Mike McCallum.

That’s a really good call, best wins are guys like McCrory or Curry which I don’t rate as great wins, a ton of wins over good fighters but no great wins

Surprised you didn’t say Chavez (discounting the dodgy Taylor win) !!!

[Counter-puncher]

Also I would suggest maybe Castillo? I know you rate him really high and I don’t think he has a GREAT win

[Onetimeonly]

Mike McCallum.

That’s a really good call, best wins are guys like McCrory or Curry which I don’t rate as great wins, a ton of wins over good fighters but no great wins

Surprised you didn’t say Chavez (discounting the dodgy Taylor win) !!!

Thought about it, but decided to avoid that argument.

[Lenny Cravats]

Difficult question.

I'm going to go with Ricardo Lopez.

[Onetimeonly]

Also I would suggest maybe Castillo? I know you rate him really high and I don’t think he has a GREAT win

Casamayor and Johnston are close, but you'd have to include curry is you're using them.

Terry norris

[Counter-puncher]

Also I would suggest maybe Castillo? I know you rate him really high and I don’t think he has a GREAT win

Casamayor and Johnston are close, but you'd have to include curry is you're using them.

Terry norris

Yeah, was how I was looking at it.

I couldn’t stand Norris and have problems labelling him great but I take your point on him not having a win against even someone on his own level.

Finito was a super-obvious call I’m surprised it took so long for his name to come up

[Onetimeonly]

Screw finito. Lol

Kostya is another with a lot of good wins.

[gilgamesh]

Also I would suggest maybe Castillo? I know you rate him really high and I don’t think he has a GREAT win

Casamayor, Corrales, Stevie Johnston and Floyd Mayweather Jr. (f*ck the judges, we know what we saw)