Most shameful world HW title fights.

[Onetimeonly]

Whitaker was better than pep. His lone win against was impressive. I'll give you that. Sandy was an incredibly dirty fighter. Maybe the dirtiest.

Yes. Sweet Pea is higher on the ATG list by a lot. Pep's performance vs Saddler in that fight was incredible, especially considering that Pep couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag.

I don't know if that's the case, just more skilled and pleasing to the eye. Willie had pop, he just lost it after he broke his body. I think he broke a couple jaws fairly shortly before the accident.

[oogiebe]

Yes. Sweet Pea is higher on the ATG list by a lot. Pep's performance vs Saddler in that fight was incredible, especially considering that Pep couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag.

I don't know if that's the case, just more skilled and pleasing to the eye. Willie had pop, he just lost it after he broke his body. I think he broke a couple jaws fairly shortly before the accident.

Meh...breaking a jaw can happen merely by hitting someone their mouth open. I'm sure it's happened to Jip many times.

[margaret thatcher]

I don't mind seeing good defense on display. It's just not exciting when the other guy is just kinda staring at you.

Wilder made for a much more interesting opponent than Wlad.

Too cautious the 1st time around, but at least he tried to win.

Wilder actually in a lot of fights is not much less cautious than Wlad, the difference is that if he hurts a dude he opens up more. But he also spends has spent a sh!tload of time just waiting, waiting, pawing, pawing.... unlike Wlad he never did the octupus holding routine though.

Not only was wlad cautious, he was cautious in an ugly way

[Onetimeonly]

I don't know if that's the case, just more skilled and pleasing to the eye. Willie had pop, he just lost it after he broke his body. I think he broke a couple jaws fairly shortly before the accident.

Meh...breaking a jaw can happen merely by hitting someone their mouth open. I'm sure it's happened to Jip many times.

He was stopping more guys than he was decisioning.

[oogiebe]

Meh...breaking a jaw can happen merely by hitting someone their mouth open. I'm sure it's happened to Jip many times.

He was stopping more guys than he was decisioning.

Over 200 wins and just over 60 ko's or so.

[Onetimeonly]

He was stopping more guys than he was decisioning.

Over 200 wins and just over 60 ko's or so.

[oogiebe]

Over 200 wins and just over 60 ko's or so.

Yes, yes...facts are funny. Good nite Saad.

[Onetimeonly]

Yes, yes...facts are funny. Good nite Saad.

Yeah, go to bed. Much better than arguing just because you give a damn what that fat slob thinks. The facts were delivered by me. Willie pep was knocking out more guys than usual, he had a horrible accident, he clearly wasn't the same .

It gets tiring teaching you pansies all the time.

[gilgamesh]

He was stopping more guys than he was decisioning.

Over 200 wins and just over 60 ko's or so.

I don't remember at what point in his career this happened, but somewhere along the way he was in a plane crash that nearly ended his career. The fact that he was ever able to reach Championship level success after the injury is miraculous.

I'm sure he was more effective in every way prior to that injury. Punching power, defense, movement. The whole 9.

[oogiebe]

Over 200 wins and just over 60 ko's or so.

I don't remember at what point in his career this happened, but somewhere along the way he was in a plane crash that nearly ended his career. The fact that he was ever able to reach Championship level success after the injury is miraculous.

I'm sure he was more effective in every way prior to that injury. Punching power, defense, movement. The whole 9.

Despite OTO's usual adolescent style of response, while Pep had that accident, it doesn't change the fact that he had little punching power for most of his career. It's a shame we didn't get to see the more complete Willie for the duration of his career, but facts are we didn't. I wonder if he was forced from that to be the incredible pure boxer he was.

[oogiebe]

Yes, yes...facts are funny. Good nite Saad.

Yeah, go to bed. Much better than arguing just because you give a damn what that fat slob thinks. The facts were delivered by me. Willie pep was knocking out more guys than usual, he had a horrible accident, he clearly wasn't the same .

It gets tiring teaching you pansies all the time.

Sometimes I'm not really sure why you are here at all.

[gilgamesh]

Yeah, go to bed. Much better than arguing just because you give a damn what that fat slob thinks. The facts were delivered by me. Willie pep was knocking out more guys than usual, he had a horrible accident, he clearly wasn't the same .

It gets tiring teaching you pansies all the time.

Sometimes I'm not really sure why you are here at all.

But, but, but, you two are the same guy

[Onetimeonly]

Yeah, go to bed. Much better than arguing just because you give a damn what that fat slob thinks. The facts were delivered by me. Willie pep was knocking out more guys than usual, he had a horrible accident, he clearly wasn't the same .

It gets tiring teaching you pansies all the time.

Sometimes I'm not really sure why you are here at all.

I'm here to give the gift of my knowledge. Acceptance is up to the underlings like you.

Gil, the last fight before the full body cast he knocked out chalky wright. It's not easy to spot in his record because I think he was back in the ring in 4 or 5 months. Miraculous comeback from a guy who clearly could punch his way out of a paper bag.

Tbh, I post here more to keep interest in this rancid product. Boxing really sucks.

[oogiebe]

Sometimes I'm not really sure why you are here at all.

But, but, but, you two are the same guy

RIght! Funny thing is that rant of me and OTO being the same is the only thing that actually bothers me here.

[oogiebe]

Sometimes I'm not really sure why you are here at all.

I'm here to give the gift of my knowledge. Acceptance is up to the underlings like you.

Gil, the last fight before the full body cast he knocked out chalky wright. It's not easy to spot in his record because I think he was back in the ring in 4 or 5 months. Miraculous comeback from a guy who clearly could punch his way out of a paper bag.

Tbh, I post here more to keep interest in this rancid product. Boxing really sucks.

LMFAO!

[Nile4000]

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[aicheligad]

Parker-Cojanu and Martin-Glazkov were the worst in the recent years. Fortunately enough, Wilder-Wawrzyk got cancelled, terrible match-up for a HW World Title fight.

It was a shame that Klitschko-Fury was so boring, I've invited some friends to watch this fight hoping that it will make them get into boxing (some of them weren't even casuals). To be honest, I've expected Klitschko to win in a similar fashion as he did in Pulev fight, I had some doubts though due to Wlad's unimpressive showing against Jennings, but I was thinking that if it's going to be competetive then it's even better.

My friends weren't impressed, to say the least. Fury singing after the fight was their favourite moment of the evening.

[DrDuke]

It was a shame that Klitschko-Fury was so boring, I've invited some friends to watch this fight hoping that it will make them get into boxing (some of them weren't even casuals). To be honest, I've expected Klitschko to win in a similar fashion as he did in Pulev fight, I had some doubts though due to Wlad's unimpressive showing against Jennings, but I was thinking that if it's going to be competetive then it's even better.

Despite of the fact of the fight being eventless, I had a positive feel while watching it live, because I had become anti-Klitschko during the reign of the brothers, I had been expecting Wlad simply to destroy Fury in several rounds, even more confidently than Pulev, and I was simply shocked in a positive sense, while I was watching Klitschko losing round after round. I've become a Fury fan since that fight.

[aicheligad]

It was a shame that Klitschko-Fury was so boring, I've invited some friends to watch this fight hoping that it will make them get into boxing (some of them weren't even casuals). To be honest, I've expected Klitschko to win in a similar fashion as he did in Pulev fight, I had some doubts though due to Wlad's unimpressive showing against Jennings, but I was thinking that if it's going to be competetive then it's even better.

Despite of the fact of the fight being eventless, I had a positive feel while watching it live, because I had become anti-Klitschko during the reign of the brothers, I had been expecting Wlad simply to destroy Fury in several rounds, even more confidently than Pulev, and I was simply shocked in a positive sense, while I was watching Klitschko losing round after round. I've become a Fury fan since that fight.

Yeah, frankly I had some kind of positive feeling while watching this fight because it was somewhat exciting to see Klitschko losing after the long years of his domination, I thought that the judges will give it to him anyway, but when they awarded the win to Fury, I felt like something special happened just now, that the new era in HW boxing just begins.

I like TF now, but this fight didn't made me a fan of Fury, I started to really like him after his first fight against Wilder. The fact that he got robbed in that fight made me like him even more, because the robbed fighters always get my liking.

Unfortunately, most (if not all) of my friends who have watched this fight with me have never went back to boxing again.

[pound per pound]

No really shameful fights are listed here. "Boring" because of being tactial isn't shameful. So, the likes of Haye-Valuev, Wlad-Haye, Fury-Wlad, Joshua-Ruiz II aren't fitting the list.

I agree on every John Ruiz bout, because they all were hugging contests, that was clearly an excessive holing for Ruiz in every damn case. That's a violation of boxing rules. Ruiz should have been disqualified in many of his fights. Furthermore, he even sometimes had corrupt judges behind him, like against Holyfield in the 3rd bout and against Golota. Although he himself was robbed against Valuev. Btw, Lewis-Akinwande is correctly choosed, Akinwande's case is an example of what should have been done with Ruiz.

Tyson-Holyfield II is a good example, because Tyson obviously performed like an idiot there, professional athletes on the elite level can't do like that. Lewis-McCall is about the same, as McCall was simply refusing to fight.

I'd make such list:

1. Tyson-Holyfield II - the fight spoiled because of severe intentional fouling.
2. Ruiz-Johnson - foulish hugging by Ruiz all the fight long, but eventually Johnson was DQed. Yes, fairly, but just Ruiz was unfairly not DQed earlier.
3. Lewis-McCall II - McCall refused to fight. It would be better for him if he just quitted, but he provided that bizarre surviving performance.
4. Ruiz-Holyfield III - again foulish hugging by Ruiz, awarding a draw for him. And no one needed this bout because of the fact that there already were two boring hugging contests of them.
5. Ruiz-Golota - trademark foulish hugging by Ruiz and a robbery.
6. Ruiz-Rahman - the same, although it's not a clear robbery, a win could be given to anyone here. There was just too much hugging and almost no boxing. Initiated by we know who.
7. Ruiz-Valuev I - The same, but surprisingly Ruiz finally looked clearly more convincing, than his opponent, but Valuev was ironically awarded a win.
8. Ruiz-Valuev II - almost a repetition of their first bout.
9. Page-Coetzee - Coetzee KOed long after the bell.
10. Valuev-Holyfield - an eventless bout and a robbery.

P.S. That's why I consider Ruiz the most shameful champ ever. Not literally the worst, but the most shameful. Valuev is about the same. A couple of the dirtiest spots on the history of boxing.

Ruiz was shameful but he did beat Holyfield cleanly in the first fight.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

Ruiz had a decent resume after reading this thread

Holy
Rahman
Perennially ranked fres oqnedo
Golota

Lost to tua, jones, haye, holyfield

Screwed against valuev twice

Fought james toney

Good for him. Horrible fighter tonwatch but thats an honorable resume

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

And again hes not better than vitali, but he fought much better fighters han vitali ever did

[DrDuke]

Ruiz didn't even fought all those guys. Hugged, held, embraced, whatever, but that sh*t could have been barely qualified as a fight. The motherf*cker should have been DQed on multiple occasions. He was just protected by Don King's corrupt influence.

[Jeff_lacy_ko]

He fought em and beat some of them
It aint illegal if the ref doesnt enforce it

[gilgamesh]

Ruiz didn't even fought all those guys. Hugged, held, embraced, whatever, but that sh*t could have been barely qualified as a fight. The motherf*cker should have been DQed on multiple occasions. He was just protected by Don King's corrupt influence.

Wlad held a lot and he wasn't often warned much for it either.

Referees just don't enforce holding all that often. The only time I've ever seen a guy DQ'd over it is because he was holding so hard that he literally wouldn't even let go when the referee tried to break them. The referee would be physically prying them apart, and he'd just hold on for dear life like he didn't wanna fight. After a few times of trying to work real hard to pry him loose, the referee just DQ'd his ass.

That was Jesse Ferguson against Tyson.

I've never seen a DQ for holding anywhere else.