Devin Haney's tweet

[Steveh583]

He'll never lose to a white boy apparently

See what Loma has to say about that I suppose

[margaret thatcher]

He already lost a UD to the ugly stick

[margaret thatcher]

TBH, I think he'd beat Loma. I get the sense that Loma's body is creaky at this point and that he's closer to being over than we suspect, along with 135 already not being his best weight. A guy like Haney is so much younger too, another few years and the difference could be big

I am curious though if Haney would consider it racist if Fury said he'd never let a black boi beat him

[gilgamesh]

TBH, I think he'd beat Loma. I get the sense that Loma's body is creaky at this point and that he's closer to being over than we suspect, along with 135 already not being his best weight. A guy like Haney is so much younger too, another few years and the difference could be big

I am curious though if Haney would consider it racist if Fury said he'd never let a black boi beat him

Loma being a guy who does what he does based on his speed, and excellent movement and footwork will definitely be a guy who hits the wall a little faster than other fighters.

Speed goes before anything in Boxing. He's had a shoulder injury, that's already hindered him a little, but if he ever has a major leg injury of any sort, you can stick a fork in him.

As it is, he should still be able to get Elite level performances out of his body and style for another couple years at least. Barring any further injury.

[ThereByTheGrace]

Stupid. But gets people talking about the fight and thats what he will have wanted.

[Terminator666]

Wonder how much stick loma would have got if he had said that about black fighters

[chiggsy]

The days of black dominance in boxing ended when the ussr disbanded and travellers leaving the fields and halting sites and coming through the amateur system have also meant that honkeys are having a lot more success now than years gone by but some of our african american cousins are still looking at us like we're still curly haired milky white stiff part timers from the 70's.

[Steveh583]

A white person would have faced a ban of several years for similar comments.

[Nightmare Roy]

Wonder how much stick loma would have got if he had said that about black fighters

A fcuking lot! That’s for sure he’d have been painted as some Nazi, it’s double standards, should be no place for it in boxing.

[margaret thatcher]

I remember this type of discussion from when hop said it

The other side to the coin was dudes saying , well, it's okay and not the same as whites dudes saying it because of 'historical inequality' and stuff like that, and that the dudes who care most about it are prob racists themselves.

[Tony1244]

A white person would have faced a ban of several years for similar comments.

Perhaps not several years, but there would likely have been a ban. In some ways a double standard, but the history of the races are obviously different.

[margaret thatcher]

Ya, because of the histories we gotta make sure blacks have the chance to even out the racism, am I right

[Cyclops]

A white person would have faced a ban of several years for similar comments.

Perhaps not several years, but there would likely have been a ban. In some ways a double standard, but the history of the races are obviously different.

Kovalev, who was probably a dick in multiple ways, flirted with monkey imagery for Adonis Stevenson and supposedly made disparaging comments about black people to the Russian media. I don't remember him being punished for it officially, although I remember some apologies: but his predominantly black team went behind his back to offer their services to Ward in how to beat him and when he got bollock punched to death they threw him under the bus saying he was "just a puncher" despite competing on a pretty even level with p4p Ward and even arguably beating SOG in the first fight. I'm sure his indiscretions didn't go unnoticed by the ref in the rematch either. So yeah, it didn't work out too well for him in the long run, did it?

[Gnome]

I don't really care. They're hyping a fight. It's not as bad as talking about bodybags or eating children.

[smiling assassin]

Can’t make him out as a bad man for his comments. His pals are probably all black and would give him proper stick for losing to a white boy, no real malice in saying it.
When I boxed a black kid I had me pals saying you can’t let no black boy beat ya (unfortunately he did ). No mean intention to it just how it is.

[bripez]

Wonder how much stick loma would have got if he had said that about black fighters

A fcuking lot! That’s for sure he’d have been painted as some Nazi, it’s double standards, should be no place for it in boxing.

I agree - imagine if some div like BJS said the same of a black boxer?

Hopkins got away with saying the same about Calzaghe I think

[Nightmare Roy]

A fcuking lot! That’s for sure he’d have been painted as some Nazi, it’s double standards, should be no place for it in boxing.

I agree - imagine if some div like BJS said the same of a black boxer?

Hopkins got away with saying the same about Calzaghe I think

Yeah it’s not on IMO and people saying ohh it’s not so bad for black people to say it as white people are being very patronising to black people, that’s how I see it anyway.

[Terminator666]

I guess certain boxers can get away with saying things like this up to a point- as someone else said, it would be different if BJS had said something similar

[Cyclops]

To be fair though we grew up with the black guy being the 'tough guy' in popular culture: look at the A team for example. Mr. T was the hard one. All those bollocks "hardman" biographies had at least one made up story about an imaginary seven foot black bloke that they'd bashed. Lenny McClean had some bullshit story like that in his rubbish book. When I worked as a psychiatric nurse and we used to do our control and restraint updates they'd always wheel out this study called something like "big, black and violent" about the death of Rocky Bennett, who died under restraint by nurses who weren't trained properly and the inherent perceived extra threat of an aggressive black patient; how they were statistically more likely to be restrained and more likely to end up transferred to secure units. There is this unconscious perception that black guys are tougher, reinforced by lots of things, which if you get out there a bit you realise is a bit of a myth, but still: losing to a white guy would I'm sure get you laughed at in an all black gym. It would be embarrassing in a different way I guess. When you all train together race really stops being an issue but yeah, it's just how it is that people think that way.

Oh yeah and edit: most of the staff where I worked were black and believed it too. They'd be alright if they had to deal with some lairy white lad, but shit the bed if some dreadlocked rasta schizophrenic flipped out.

[JimJim2009]

I think in our modern society, for someone to get "banned" or whatever, usually you see a momentum of condemnation wider than the sport itself. Eg, the media, politicians and celebrities standing up to be counted. This creates pressure and momentum. Without wanting to be too controversial I think the media, politicians and celebrities can, in the main, be quite selective about what horses they want to be seen to be backing. As far as I can see nobody of note has stood up and called for action against Haney. I do think if (for example) BJS had come out and said this (in reverse), it would be quite different. It will pass, and nothing will be done.

[Muttley]

Wonder how much stick loma would have got if he had said that about black fighters

A fcuking lot! That’s for sure he’d have been painted as some Nazi, it’s double standards, should be no place for it in boxing.

Or any walk of life, from anyone, regardless of race

[forcefraser]

Haney is a racist. It's as simples as dat

White boy? What does he think he is?

Hope he gets his mush caved in

[danconnollyeire]

Haney is a racist. It's as simples as dat

White boy? What does he think he is?

Hope he gets his mush caved in

Alright Alex Jones... like fvck anyone’s gonna listen to the dickhead wishing corona death on people... have you seen how many boxers have lost love ones? You have no place on a boxing forum. pudendum

[watsupdoc87]

A white person would have faced a ban of several years for similar comments.

Perhaps not several years, but there would likely have been a ban. In some ways a double standard, but the history of the races are obviously different.

What's history of the races got to do with it. Loma is eastern European, Ukrainian. What historical persecution have they put on black Americans?

[Tony1244]

Perhaps not several years, but there would likely have been a ban. In some ways a double standard, but the history of the races are obviously different.

What's history of the races got to do with it. Loma is eastern European, Ukrainian. What historical persecution have they put on black Americans?

I never said I thought Haney should be suspended and I never said Loma should be suspended if he said the same thing. I just opined on the fact that the standards are different the way they are.