Ugly styles/techniques

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Is there a fighter that you thought just had an ugly technique? Regardless of their effectiveness,it was an ugly site to behold.
A couple come to mind for me right off.
Mustafa Hamsho and Vinnie Pazienza.
Hamsho looked like he did a lot of pushing,wrestling,shoving and not a lot of clean punches.

Pazienza sometimes looked like he practiced coming as close as he could to landing without actually landing.All that exhaustive jumping around that I guess he thought was showboating,or maybe just his style.He looked like he never landed anything clean more of pushing and flailing away.

Even a couple of the Great Roberto Durans fights he mauled and smothered,while successfully infighting it didn't always look like it.Though most, he showed his awesomeness.

Alfredo Evangelista.

Vito Antuofermo always reminded me of a wrestler that gets surprised "hey put these on your boxing instead".

Rafael Limon looked like he was bowling in an oil slick.

Barry Mcguigan was another.It looked like he drug his back foot like a kickstand.
All these guys were great fighters and successful.

But I'm just talking about styles.An ugly fight could be a foulfest or dull ineffective fight.

But ugly styles?
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Ricky Hatton had a quite ugly style of the inside mauling, which was very effective for him.

Nigel Benn and Steve Collins had ugly styles and it was an apogee of ugliness, when they fought.
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John Ruiz - horrible to watch and one of the worst fighters to hold a heavyweight championship.
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Syntax Error wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 12:04 John Ruiz - horrible to watch and one of the worst fighters to hold a heavyweight championship.
He wasn't even just ugly, but particularly dirty and foulish.
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Manning Galloway wasn’t a great one to watch.
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Usually guys with mauling kinda styles don't do so with finesse, but they're effective all the same. Some guys just prefer to make a fight rough, and thrive with that. Usually the guys that develop these kinda styles do so out of necessity. They don't have the speed and athleticism of their opponents so they have to adjust the fight to suit them.
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"Ringo" Oscar Bonavena was awkward as fvk but very effective. Almost had Frazier out in their first fight and I thought he deserved the decision.
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Agree with most named here except McGuigan, Hatton, Pazienza, Benn. Totally enjoyed watching them.
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Seamus wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 13:38 Agree with most named here except McGuigan, Hatton, Pazienza, Benn. Totally enjoyed watching them.
One of Hatton's title defenses at 140 fits this category. Carlos Maussa, Maussa was pretty damn sloppy and awkward. Kinda faded into oblivion after losing to Hatton, or at least I don't recall hearing much more about him.
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Although it was super entertaining to watch, Frankie "The Animal" Fletcher vs Juan Roldan in 1983 was a mess as far as boxing technique. Both were maulers who threw some wide-ass punches but were fun to see

Vito was cave-man stuff. So was Rocky Marciano, for that matter, only he hit a lot harder.
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Ricardo Mayorga certainly wasn't very refined in his attacks.
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Carlos Maussa
Carlos Baldomir
Juan Urango
That guy who fought Mike Brodie, was called the Andean Cow or something.
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All those guys got the job done plenty of times but maybe not so easy to watch.Also I bet they surprised plenty of opponents who thought it'd be an easy night.
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Seamus wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 13:38 Agree with most named here except McGuigan, Hatton, Pazienza, Benn. Totally enjoyed watching them.
Those fighters were exciting the complete opposite of ugly
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DrDuke wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 12:31
Syntax Error wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 12:04 John Ruiz - horrible to watch and one of the worst fighters to hold a heavyweight championship.
He wasn't even just ugly, but particularly dirty and foulish.
Very dull but very effective with hit and hold.
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Don't know that ugly and entertaining are incompatible. Travis Walker vs Leapai was a slopfest but I loved it
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Michael Spinks could look a bit goofy in his movements and posture at times, not so much ugly but a goof for sure
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Tony1244 wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 16:35
DrDuke wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 12:31

He wasn't even just ugly, but particularly dirty and foulish.
Very dull but very effective with hit and hold.
I mean, that his actions were illegal and the mofo should have been DQed on numerous occasions. That wasn't just ugliness, that was violating the rules. Probably, if he wasn't backed up by King, that sh!t wouldn't gone effective for him.
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The great Gene Fullmer. HE made it rough and ugly, but was quite very effective. He was a greater ring tactician than given credit for.
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Tony1244 wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 16:35
DrDuke wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 12:31

He wasn't even just ugly, but particularly dirty and foulish.
Very dull but very effective with hit and hold.
He would often hurt guys late in the fight by getting you used to his pattern, and then switching it at a crucial time. He'd spend several rounds just doing this. Lunging jab, grab, Jab, grab, jab, grab, jab, grab, jab, grab...over and over again. Until it's all you expected him to do, and then out of the blue it might be overhand right, grab or something like that.

Every now and again he'd lull guys to sleep and when he mixed in that power shot out of nowhere it'd hurt his opponent.

He was ugly, and awkward as all hell, and I'm so glad the Ruiz era is past us, but I have to give the guy credit for getting the most of his limited ability. He found a way to make guys that could fight better than him sink to his level
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elmersalsa wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 17:21 The great Gene Fullmer. HE made it rough and ugly, but was quite very effective. He was a greater ring tactician than given credit for.
One of my favorite descriptions of Gene Fullmer's style was in Ring Magazine one time.

"Gene Fullmer was a relentless pressure fighter. He'd pressure you constantly. If it wasn't working. He'd pressure you some more. If that didn't work. He'd crank up the pressure a little bit, and if it still wasn't working. He'd try pressure"
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 18:32
Tony1244 wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 16:35

Very dull but very effective with hit and hold.
He would often hurt guys late in the fight by getting you used to his pattern, and then switching it at a crucial time. He'd spend several rounds just doing this. Lunging jab, grab, Jab, grab, jab, grab, jab, grab, jab, grab...over and over again. Until it's all you expected him to do, and then out of the blue it might be overhand right, grab or something like that.

Every now and again he'd lull guys to sleep and when he mixed in that power shot out of nowhere it'd hurt his opponent.

He was ugly, and awkward as all hell, and I'm so glad the Ruiz era is past us, but I have to give the guy credit for getting the most of his limited ability. He found a way to make guys that could fight better than him sink to his level
That's exactly the way I feel about him. Boring, and I'm glad it's over but I respect him for doing what he did with what he had. Against Rahman, he had this perfect rhythm going where he found any part of the Hassim, landed quickly with 1 shot, and then held, repeat ad naseum.
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 18:35
elmersalsa wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 17:21 The great Gene Fullmer. HE made it rough and ugly, but was quite very effective. He was a greater ring tactician than given credit for.
One of my favorite descriptions of Gene Fullmer's style was in Ring Magazine one time.

"Gene Fullmer was a relentless pressure fighter. He'd pressure you constantly. If it wasn't working. He'd pressure you some more. If that didn't work. He'd crank up the pressure a little bit, and if it still wasn't working. He'd try pressure"
:clap:
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gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 18:35
elmersalsa wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 17:21 The great Gene Fullmer. HE made it rough and ugly, but was quite very effective. He was a greater ring tactician than given credit for.
One of my favorite descriptions of Gene Fullmer's style was in Ring Magazine one time.

"Gene Fullmer was a relentless pressure fighter. He'd pressure you constantly. If it wasn't working. He'd pressure you some more. If that didn't work. He'd crank up the pressure a little bit, and if it still wasn't working. He'd try pressure"
ANOTHER interesting thing about Gene was that with boxers, he would rush on them and make the fight ugly and use constant pressure. When he was fighting sluggers, he would outbox them. HE was a terrific tactician.
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elmersalsa wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 19:27
gilgamesh wrote: 30 Apr 2020, 18:35

One of my favorite descriptions of Gene Fullmer's style was in Ring Magazine one time.

"Gene Fullmer was a relentless pressure fighter. He'd pressure you constantly. If it wasn't working. He'd pressure you some more. If that didn't work. He'd crank up the pressure a little bit, and if it still wasn't working. He'd try pressure"
ANOTHER interesting thing about Gene was that with boxers, he would rush on them and make the fight ugly and use constant pressure. When he was fighting sluggers, he would outbox them. HE was a terrific tactician.
He definitely was the boxer of the two against Carmen Basilio.
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